So true. Peoples personal experiences vary widely but somehow they try to pass off as facts or evidence. Some how all the techies and creative professionals control the buying decisions on a mass scale is really a ridiculous argument.
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So true. Peoples personal experiences vary widely but somehow they try to pass off as facts or evidence. Some how all the techies and creative professionals control the buying decisions on a mass scale is really a ridiculous argument.
Right, because a bunch of people posting their experience has no influence because you guys say so. Before you go casting aspersions on people reacting to feelings, you might want to check yourselves. Pot, kettle.
Apple spilled milk. Guys are crying over it, in the hope that Apple will mop it up and put it back in the glass again.
While personal experiences make for interesting data points, they in no way speak for the majority of people world wide. They only speak for that person personally.
The irony is that Apple sells more computers than they ever have. Even though iPhones are 2/3rds of the revenues/profits, they're selling and making more money on their computers than they ever did...including the "smiley box" Macintosh days, the "beleaguered" days, and certainly the days immediately after NeXT essentially swallowed Apple!
It is troublesome that high-end Mac hardware, and to lesser degrees MacOS, their professional software and Mac app developers are being treated more as an afterthought. I hope this changes after the spaceship campus is built and everybody moves in.
It is troublesome that high-end Mac hardware, and to lesser degrees MacOS, their professional software and Mac app developers are being treated more as an afterthought. I hope this changes after the spaceship campus is built and everybody moves in.
The funny thing is, with every Apple event, someone always predicted over the years that they might update the new Mac Pro and it that sense, it is really not a prediction anymore, and rather a miracle if they announce anything at all lol. If they really just upgrade the trashcan after all this time, I'll have a good laugh.
Oh sure, the new campus will magically fix everything, lol. And once the iPhone 7 has shipped, they will have even more time right?
Yes and an aggregation of those personal experience at a highly concentrated forum tell you something more if you want to open your eyes and not engage in sophistry knowing youre at the end of a losing argument. When you're weak on facts, argue procedure. When you're weak on procedure, argue facts. When you're weak on both, just engage in sophistry. I eagerly await youre note about statistical relevance not being to your standards. Whatevers.
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After that, I hope we get a few committees. An assessment committee. Then a pre-action plan committee. Maybe a pre-pre action plan committee first.
We've had surveys here before with hundreds of answers, but then the sophists complain about the statistical relevancy on probably the worlds largest professional mac pro forum... Bunch of sophist noise.
It doesn't matter... They would just complain about the wording or the size of the survey. You see, for some idealism is stronger than experience and facts.
Here's the big thing I really struggle to figure out:
Apple is the most valuable company in the world (on and off, always near the top). They must have a huge amount of employees. What then are they all doing?
1. The iPhone has remained essentially the same for as long as I can remember. Yes we get a new camera nearly every year, yes we got better Touch ID and a force touch screen, but overall, the phone is the same! You could've come up with this with a handful of people at most.
2. The stuttering iPad has got thinner and bigger with a stylus. Again, easily done with a handful of people.
3. The Apple TV gets apps. Great but probably easy enough to slap a new skin in iOS.
4. The Apple Watch, I was excited but a year on it's the worst Apple product I've ever owned. I resent having a watch that won't last a full day on one charge. Utterly pointless.
5. iMac gets a great screen.
6. MacBook, super thin, USB and new keyboard. This is the product that could easily have been developed alongside the new MacBook Pros and perhaps it actually was.
I've probably missed a couple of things off the list, but I think I've got the main ones. When you looks at that list, you've got to wonder what the hell they are doing in Cupertino. Either the new MacBook pros are ready but they need to be announced alongside MacOS for whatever reason, or they're disappointing enough to need to be sandwiched between a new Apple Music app (oh great, thanks) and a couple more Apple Watch bands.....or maybe the apple car will fly and that's what everyone is working on!
That's my opinion anyway. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Apple is the most valuable company in the world (on and off, always near the top). They must have a huge amount of employees. What then are they all doing?
1. The iPhone has remained essentially the same for as long as I can remember. Yes we get a new camera nearly every year, yes we got better Touch ID and a force touch screen, but overall, the phone is the same! You could've come up with this with a handful of people at most.
2. The stuttering iPad has got thinner and bigger with a stylus. Again, easily done with a handful of people.
3. The Apple TV gets apps. Great but probably easy enough to slap a new skin in iOS.
4. The Apple Watch, I was excited but a year on it's the worst Apple product I've ever owned. I resent having a watch that won't last a full day on one charge. Utterly pointless.
5. iMac gets a great screen.
6. MacBook, super thin, USB and new keyboard. This is the product that could easily have been developed alongside the new MacBook Pros and perhaps it actually was.
I've probably missed a couple of things off the list, but I think I've got the main ones. When you looks at that list, you've got to wonder what the hell they are doing in Cupertino. Either the new MacBook pros are ready but they need to be announced alongside MacOS for whatever reason, or they're disappointing enough to need to be sandwiched between a new Apple Music app (oh great, thanks) and a couple more Apple Watch bands.....or maybe the apple car will fly and that's what everyone is working on!
That's my opinion anyway. I hope I'm proved wrong.
In my opinion, you're making some unfair assumptions.
1. Just because the outer shell of the phone looks similar over 8 years and over ten iterations, doesn't mean that the hardware and the software hasn't undergone massive changes. As the phone has gotten thinner, the engineering required to make everything fit into that form factor is research and development. There have been massive technical advances in the speed and efficiency of the ARM chip. Of the chips that drive the video. The display, etc.
2. See 1.
3. See 1 and 2.
4. I do not think Apple expects, or expected to sell 250 million Apple Watches every year. They want it to be profitable, they want it to be an essential part of the ecosystem, but it isn't meant to be the replacement for the iPhone.
5. What they do with computers ultimately depends upon the willingness of Intel to continue to innovate...but Intel is pushing ever-closer to the limits of physics. Can't make a silicone CPU smaller than 5 nm, quantum problems take over. So now...now that Intel has no real competition, they're (imo) milking it and profit-taking from the industry.
6. The new MacBook exists to cannibalize the Air. When the new Macbook Pro likely comes out in the next couple of months, the Air as it is known will likely be finished off. Apple certainly will not tell you that now, because they want to sell any Airs that they have left in inventory before they roll out the shiny new stuff.
What exactly do you think should change? Should it be circular? Equipped with a drone? Invisible? Come in rose gold? (Oh. Sorry.)
Maybe you should get some of your mates over for drinks and come up with a flying, ball-shaped, sun-charging iPhone killer.
Sounds like you got a pretty good handle on how things ought to be run. You should be CEO of a successful multi-billion $$$ tech company. You could lay off all those thousands of redundant people, and keep only the handful of people you really need to make these products.
Wait...is that you, Carly Fiorina?
Yeah no worries there. At least you'd get a new Mac ProSounds like you got a pretty good handle on how things ought to be run. You should be CEO of a successful multi-billion $$$ tech company. You could lay off all those thousands of redundant people, and keep only the handful of people you really need to make these products.
Wait...is that you, Carly Fiorina?
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We made that but that'll the flying part will be saved for solar ball version 6
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Just to focus on the Mac side again (my diversion I know), if Apple has a MacBook Pro and a Mac Pro, we can't help but compare them to Windows alternatives can we? Especially the Mac Pro. So why put all that effort (which I casually and knowingly underestimated) into creating what is essentially an anti Pro device? MacBook Pro Retina, difficult/expensive to upgrade to any meaningful amount. Mac Pro, lots of complaints on here about crashes and general staleness of processor offerings.
My point is, if the Windows PC manufacturers can make it happen, why can't apple? Physics is one thing, but at least those guys have enough space in their computers for actual Pro graphics etc
Seems too many people here are trying to pass off their personal experience & opinions as fact. Whatevers indeed.
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And the Apple Watch is so far from an essential part of the eco system it's not even funny.
I believe the answer to this has been revealed, it's just an answer that many traditional Mac enthusiasts and 1990s diehards find hard to accept.
Apple may have given us their answer, it is us that do not want to accept it. They may not kill the Pro hardware outright, but they shall continue to give it a benign neglect that has the same long-term effect.
I know 20+ audio professionals who are unhappy with the new Mac Pro and if it didn't change move over to windows. Most of them still stick with their 3.1 and 4s for as long as they can.
Right, talking about removing the ability to upgrade your internal SSD which worked with the same design not too long ago. It appears they try to make their customers unhappy on purpose oO. Now you can't upgrade your internal hard drive anymore and have to pay royal prices on our store. Luckily you have that micro sd slot to the side so I was able to extend my sister's memory on her new Macbook Pro that way.
It certainly looks that way. But wouldn't it be better to remove the pro name and admit that the requirements of that market do not for with the modern Apple brand? Beauty over brains? Rather than anger a lot of people, why not admit defeat (even temporary) and leave the door open for potential products that can compete?
It should be based on a large sample size as possible, not from a few disgruntled posters on a single internet forum.