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2 hour battery life is “very very bad” and “useless”? Hyperbole much?

You still didn’t answer my question. How would you fix it? Come on, let’s hear it.
Wait longer before releasing this product to market? Hold for breakthrough in battery tech for longer lasting user experience when on the go, and reduce footprint of the Vision Pro itself so you’re not wearing a gigantic dorky swimmers mask.
 
It’s just an ordinary battery. Nothing wrong with it other than it getting only 2-hrs of use time between charges (if proven to be accurate). That’s crap IMO for an Apple product—especially one that’s supposed to be “magical”. This is not complicated rationale.

You are right, it’s a battery. A battery that you are calling a “train wreck” and you call giving it a fancy marketing name “lipstick on a pig”. So you obviously think there is something fundamentally wrong with the battery, and not just the name.

Wait longer before releasing this product to market?

If you are going to wait until better tech is available, you will be waiting forever. Original iPhone was slow and lacked 3G. Original Macintosh was starved for RAM. Original Apple Watch was very sluggish. They all got better, fast.
Hold for breakthrough in battery tech for longer lasting user experience when on the go

It’s not meant to be used when you are on the go. Sure, you can take it with you, and use it in various locations. But in every use case you are more or less stationary, and the device can be plugged in in that kind of use. One exception might be airplanes.

And there are no battery breakthroughs on the horizon, just iterative improvements.

and reduce footprint of the Vision Pro itself so you’re not wearing a gigantic dorky swimmers mask.

Ah, you want something like regular eyeglasses, with AR? That kind of tech is long, long, LONG ways off. You might have something like that if you just use some simple HUD-like interface. But that’s not what Apple was going for, they wanted a full-fledged GUI with robust apps.

But hey, apparently this device does not suit your wants and needs. There is a simple solution to that: don’t buy it.
 
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Just to be clear: you do realise that... you can plug the thing in? You are not using the device when walking around town (like you do with a phone). In the release video, they are using it in the office, where it can be plugged in. It's being used in the living room, where it can be plugged in. Everywhere it's being used, it's used in a place and in a way where it can be plugged in just fine.

It sounds like there are tons of people who are thinking that it can only be used while on battery power, which is not the case. You are thinking like the battery life is going to ruin the device, when I bet that it will mostly be used while plugged in to power outlet, with battery just being a bonus and a backup.

What next, Mac Studio is a terrible product because it has 0 hours of battery life?
i’m aware. doesn’t change how trash this thing is.
 
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Wait, you gotta clip on or slip a power brick into your pocket with a long cord when you walk around like a weirdo with your Vision Pro and that battery only lasts two hours and that's magical? Apple is going full old Apple with this crap. Stamp out the people in the company that are still doing this to us! Put whoever was in charge of the new MacBook Pro and Mac Studio in charge. We need more function with this form.
Just. Plug. It. In… problem solved! 🫶🏻
 
You are right, it’s a battery. A battery that you are calling a “train wreck” and you call giving it a fancy marketing name “lipstick on a pig”. So you obviously think there is something fundamentally wrong with the battery, and not just the name.



If you are going to wait until better tech is available, you will be waiting forever. Original iPhone was slow and lacked 3G. Original Macintosh was starved for RAM. Original Apple Watch was very sluggish. They all got better, fast.


It’s not meant to be used when you are on the go. Sure, you can take it with you, and use it in various locations. But in every use case you are more or less stationary, and the device can be plugged in in that kind of use. One exception might be airplanes.

And there are no battery breakthroughs on the horizon, just iterative improvements.



Ah, you want something like regular eyeglasses, with AR? That kind of tech is long, long, LONG ways off. You might have something like that if you just use some simple HUD-like interface. But that’s not what Apple was going for, they wanted a full-fledged GUI with robust apps.

But hey, apparently this device does not suit your wants and needs. There is a simple solution to that: don’t buy it.
I swear people want all new tech to be perfect from the get go. The whole point of this is getting it to market and developing it year on year. There is amazing future with this tech and it will only get stronger year on year. It's why it's at market now so developers in the end can develop for all different apps. Obviously not all developers will be on board yet until it's here and the interest is there. Once there is then it will only from strength to strength.
 
In Apple parlance, Pro is for profit, same for Max and Ultra. Magic is when you're stuck with insurmontable design challenges. They went "here we go, ready or not", even if they had to append this dangling battery. More "Vision" needed, for sure.
 
So, how would you fix it? Reduce power-draw by making the device slower and/or have worse screens? Make the battery physically bigger and heavier? You do realize all these things are about tradeoffs? Or do you expect Apple to have actual magic that lets them break the laws of physics?

They fix it by not making the product at all.
 
I swear people want all new tech to be perfect from the get go. The whole point of this is getting it to market and developing it year on year. There is amazing future with this tech and it will only get stronger year on year. It's why it's at market now so developers in the end can develop for all different apps. Obviously not all developers will be on board yet until it's here and the interest is there. Once there is then it will only from strength to strength.
The problem here the timing, aligned resources, library of content established, and right pricing. It's not at all similar to the fascination that the initial iPhone created. Back when we had MacWorld and thousands could hear speeches and see exhibits it was all magical. Yes that is a shot I took art the time.

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Compare that to what Apple is doing now, you're mostly watching an annual WWDC video instead of being able to see it in an exhibit. This was when the iPhone first came out. The Vision Pro is not even the final product and its still a secretive prototype that is shown in a very limited circumstances so majority of people have not had a hands on or seen specifications, or seen the VisionOS working. It's akin to a CES keynote by some big manufacturer where possible examples are exhibited and it's somewhat expensive. There is a complete lack of assurance towards consumers that its the final deliverable product as it forecasted to be sometime 2024. So Apple has to contend with consumers wanting new tech to be perfect when it launches, instead of new products that will evolve. Yeah we are spoiled and Apple has a lot higher hurdle to meet now. :eek:
 
No, that isn’t accurate. Breakthrough technology needs an obvious use case. Tim’s Newton Goggles don’t have that.

I’m sorry but it is accurate. Nothing like this with this level of tech has been seen before. Eventually you will be able to do things that your iohone, iPad, Mac can do all in one. That’s the long term vision.
 
I’m sorry but it is accurate. Nothing like this with this level of tech has not been seen before. Eventually you will be able to do things that your iohone, iPad, Mac can do all in one. That’s the long term vision.

It is accurate. The device isn’t breaking new ground and it lacks an obvious use case.

And really, who cares if it’s “breakthrough” technology if no one wants to wear the thing?
 
It is accurate. The device isn’t breaking new ground and it lacks an obvious use case.

And really, who cares if it’s “breakthrough” technology if no one wants to wear the thing?

Who says they don’t? This thing will likely sell out. It’s got plenty of use cases. Watching films, sport games, dealing with spreadsheets and general browsing with massive sized windows is a great use case.

Basically everything you do now on your devices but in a better way. Is the tech got plenty of room to develop? Yes but the vision is there long term to be really great.

Just like foldables when they came to market. It’s something different and new
 

Yes

Odd, since the primary take on the device is that it’s a solution in search of a problem.

Maybe the problem is with you, and not the device? Maybe you just don’t get it?

iPhone was also “solution looking for a problem”. I mean, we already had smartphones, and people liked them. Apple just released their own take on the device that was way better than anything else on the market. Same thing with iPad.
 
Yes



Maybe the problem is with you, and not the device? Maybe you just don’t get it?

iPhone was also “solution looking for a problem”. I mean, we already had smartphones, and people liked them. Apple just released their own take on the device that was way better than anything else on the market. Same thing with iPad.

It’s either people are just stuck in the mud and don’t want to see new things or they think it’s too expensive for their budget so it’s trash
 

Someone’s podcast doesn’t really prove anything.

Maybe the problem is with you, and not the device? Maybe you just don’t get it?

iPhone was also “solution looking for a problem”. I mean, we already had smartphones, and people liked them. Apple just released their own take on the device that was way better than anything else on the market. Same thing with iPad.

It’s goggles. Goggles that have no killer app. The barriers to adoption of “spatial computing” are many and very high. I applaud your enthusiasm but I’d suggest that a dose of realism might be in order.
 
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It is accurate. The device isn’t breaking new ground and it lacks an obvious use case.
Name an Apple device that’s does. iPhone broke no new ground, it was a version of existing product type, just better. Same thing with iPods, iPad, Apple Watch, hell, just about anything Apple makes. They don’t come out with something totally different from what came before, they “just” come out with something that is way better than what came before.
 
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Name an Apple device that’s does. iPhone broke no new ground, it was a version of existing product type, just better. Same thing with iPods, iPad, Apple Watch, hell, just about anything Apple makes. They don’t come out with something totally different from what came before, they “just” come out with something that is way better than what came before.

You’re the one who called it “breakthrough technology,” not me.
 
Someone’s podcast doesn’t really prove anything.

It’s first hand experience from someone who actually used one. And there are other similar comments.
It’s goggles.

And iPhone is a phone, what’s your point?
Goggles that have no killer app.

Entertainment as a whole is such a killer app.

The barriers to adoption of “spatial computing” are many and very high. I applaud your enthusiasm but I’d suggest that a dose of realism might be in order.
That rings a bell…
 
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