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My pencil drops by 1% every 30 seconds or so. Something must be wrong. This is essentially unusable the way it is. Did any of you figure out a solution to this?
 
Probably because the previous model could go to sleep/turn off then wake/boot by plugging into the lightning port. I’m guessing that this model is always on, polling for connection. Not a big deal if it spends its life stuck onto the side of the iPad.
 
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Nope, made sure it was disabled in Bluetooth settings, and besides that, the Apple Pencil was in a room the other side of a large house.
Disabling from Control Center won't change anything, since Apple modified after iOS 11 this setting. When we disable from Control Center the connection with the Pencil is still active. When we put the device in Airplane mode or disable from iOS internal settings then bluetooth is 100% disabled and the iPAD isn't trying to communicate with the Pencil.

For this test you need to visit internal iOS settings and disable from there. Since you said you did that (I recommend for at least 24, 48 hours - charge the new Pencil to 100% before doing that) here's my theory:

- I am very interested to know with an EMF meter if this new Pencil is trying to communicate/broadcast all the time.

I used a Cornet ED88T+ and Acoustimeter.

Take a look what happens once we pair the 1st gen Pencil:


It's only after then that RF radiation is emitted. Otherwise the Pencil alone isn't changing the readings.

Besides that fact, while the 1st gen Pencil is there in my drawer there's a battery drain while idling.

Now, why do I think the 2nd gen Pencil broadcasting a signal matter and we should try to find out?

Because this new Pencil is similar to the Airpods. And if this is the case that explains this battery drain.

The Airpods don't waste battery while INSIDE the charger case (well, maybe they do, but it's a fraction of what happens once they are outside).

Once they are outside even if you have unpaired them and disabled bluetooth in ALL YOUR DEVICES it still wastes battery as if it was paired and in your ears. o_O

Apple has issued an explanation when I filed a bug report.

Here's what I said:

Summary:
About the Airpods:

I discovered the following (please follow my line of reasoning):

1) If the Airpods are paired to a single device (example: iPAD Pro 9.7, using last iOS version), or my PC (Windows 10-64 bit, using a dongle 4.0 Bluetooth),or the Apple TV 4;

2) This after a few full discharges;

3) The charger case from the Airpods without any defects. Meaning that if I let the Airpods INSIDE THE CASE (paired to a single device) and don't open it for 24 hours, there's no drain, the battery continues at 100%. This after both the case/Airpods were fully charged. So my unit is not one of the defective ones that had this issue.

If I reset the Airpods to factory settings, and pair them to the iPAD or PC;

And if I turn Bluetooth off in ALL MY DEVICES (and don't pair to Apple-TV 4, for this test);

The battery (this is where I am describing the issue for the bug reporter) is wasted COMPLETELY after less than 12 hours. Meaning it keeps trying to connect to previous devices, no matter what. I believe it wastes 4% each hour, or more.

This is a bug that needs to be fixed in a future firmware. I use the last one, 3.5.1. I noticed the Airpods keep trying to connect to the previous device used, even if I hit DISCONNECT in the device settings. They keep broadcasting the battery levels, even if inside my drawer, from a short distance.

Bottom line: since there's no ON/OFF switch, this must be a bug from these Airpods. The reason I need to let the Airpods outside the case is to be able to grab them quickly and put them back in my ears, at random moments of the day. This unnecessary waste (despite the fact the charger case is really useful/fast for a few minutes, if we need to recharge them) thwarts those plans.

To compare products, I also have the Apple Pencil.

The Pencil is paired to one iPAD. This iPAD Pro 9.7 never has Bluetooth disabled.

In 24 hours, even I don't use the Pencil for anything, the battery wastes a few %. Not 100 to 0% in a few hours. In other words, "constant monitoring" is "constant use" for the Airpods. This must be a bug, it can't be normal.

Steps to Reproduce:
Just fully charge the Airpods and case (or just the Airpods). Then pair them to a single device. And let the Airpods OUTSIDE the case. Monitor them for at least 12 hours. In 12 hours they are going to be fully depleted. Don't put them in your ears and don't use them AT ALL during this period. Use your own iPAD/device speakers, don't use the Airpods.

Expected Results: See above.

Observed Results: See above.

Version: Airpods using last firmware, 3.5.1. iPAD Pro 9.7, last iOS.

Notes: Please clarify this issue.

Configuration: See above.
And their answer:

Apple Developer Relations
June 12 2017

Engineering has provided the following feedback regarding this issue:

This is an engineering tradeoff. If we were to stop all paging and advertising while the buds are sitting idle on your desk, any time you picked them up and placed them in your ear, we’d take a few seconds to connect. We prioritize the more often seen user situation in which the user leaves the buds out only when they intend to use them relatively soon after.

Is this the case with the new Pencil? Sure it looks like.
 
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Probably because the previous model could go to sleep/turn off then wake/boot by plugging into the lightning port. I’m guessing that this model is always on, polling for connection. Not a big deal if it spends its life stuck onto the side of the iPad.

No, it is a huge deal if the pencil last only 1 hour and runs out of battery when you are using it. If your pencil is always attached to the iPad then why even buy one? I need to be able to take notes for hours at a time or draw for hours at a time. This is not how the pencil should behave.
 
No, it is a huge deal if the pencil last only 1 hour and runs out of battery when you are using it. If your pencil is always attached to the iPad then why even buy one? I need to be able to take notes for hours at a time or draw for hours at a time. This is not how the pencil should behave.

Actually, it lasts longer than one hour. I’ve been using mine for a number of hour’s now , unknown how many, and it works just fine for my workflow.
 
OK, I decided to conduct a test of my own:

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1st gen Pencil;
iOS 12.1
IPP 10.5 (256 GB, wifi+cell)


This video shows the Pencil is 100% charged. And that I unpaired it, and after that disabled bluetooth for good.

I'll keep BT disabled this way for the next 48 hours. After that I'll plug the Pencil again and see how much battery is left.

Then you'll all be able to compare this with your new Pencil. 48 hrs from now I'll post the results.
 
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I have not had any issues with rapid battery loss but I make sure the pencil is attached when not using it.
 
I’m definitely seeing quicker battery drain then the previous Apple Pencil on mine and I draw for hours at a time. I’ve also noticed the iPad itself drains SO MUCH faster than my 10.5 did which is the bigger concern.
 
Mine seems better on the second day. The pencil went from 100% to 96% when detached and idling for 3 hours. On the first day it dropped that much when detached and idling for ~10 minutes.
Mine went from 96% to 94% just sitting idle on the desk in 4 hours. I also have the same FW .0052
 
My pencil keeps disconnecting today, any one experience this?
[doublepost=1541879941][/doublepost]Actually right now I can’t even get it to work, but it does ‘connect’ when i attach it?
 
Yea it’s now dead. The battery is reporting 100 but it won’t function.

Update: this never happened with the pencil 1 but apparently the tip just needed to be tightened. My bad I guess.
 
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Yea it’s now dead. The battery is reporting 100 but it won’t function.

Update: this never happened with the pencil 1 but apparently the tip just needed to be tightened. My bad I guess.
you know my tip needed to be tightened too. Wonder if they ship that way.
 
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Mine is now at 45% since charging 100% at 9:45 AM (9 hours ago), doing Internet/Playing two simple games and very little writing. Of course not continuous, but off and on during the day. Mostly on
 
I observed the same thing. The battery life of the Apple Pencil 2 seems to be lesser than the first one even when not in use.
I suspect the the original one went in some sort of standby when unused but the new one doesn't. I think that's because the Pencil 2 is intended to stay attached to the iPad when unused whereas the original Pencil made that inconvenient.
 
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I observed the same thing. The battery life of the Apple Pencil 2 seems to be lesser than the first one even when not in use.
I suspect the the original one went in some sort of standby when unused but the new one doesn't. I think that's because the Pencil 2 is intended to stay attached to the iPad when unused whereas the original Pencil made that inconvenient.
I tend to agree with what you said. Because Apple's new method of magnetic pairing/charging/storing, keeps the pencil attached, and therefore technically charging constantly, they regard the rapid battery drain as an “unfortunate consequence” of not following their preferred method of use. In other words, if you choose to not keep the pencil and iPad constantly connected, too bad for you.
 
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I like keeping the pencil constantly connected - when not using it - lessens the risk of losing/misplacing it.
 
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I observed the same thing. The battery life of the Apple Pencil 2 seems to be lesser than the first one even when not in use.
I suspect the the original one went in some sort of standby when unused but the new one doesn't. I think that's because the Pencil 2 is intended to stay attached to the iPad when unused whereas the original Pencil made that inconvenient.
Or perhaps Apple is too stupid to add a switch to turn these Bluetooth devices off? Why off doesn’t mean off in Apple’s world?
 
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What really irks me about all of this, is that I have the older iPad Pro 9.7” and pencil to compare battery performance to. As I mentioned before, my old pencil could literally lie for several weeks, when not in use, and still maintain a decent charge.
 
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Is there any real practical downside to this behavior? I mean even if your battery is dead it will charge up enough to use in a few seconds, or enough for hours of use in a minute or two. It’s interesting to understand the differences in operation behavior but I’m not sure it really means anything.
 
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I’ve noticed after using my iPad for maybe an hour today with the pencil attached, it’s at 74% life already. Surprised how fast it drains with the pencil on it. Not horrible, but considering I haven’t used it much today, it’s a bit.
 
I’ve noticed after using my iPad for maybe an hour today with the pencil attached, it’s at 74% life already. Surprised how fast it drains with the pencil on it. Not horrible, but considering I haven’t used it much today, it’s a bit.
That is exactly what I am experiencing. With the Pencil constantly attached, there is no doubt that the iPad battery drains faster than if it was seperated and not paired. It's not as if I am constantly using the pencil, so why keep it magnetically connected at all times?
 
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