Again you engage in reductionism. “Government control” is a highly bias tinged framing when trying to draw a comparison between these two cases.
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Again you engage in reductionism. “Government control” is a highly bias tinged framing when trying to draw a comparison between these two cases.
Actually…
No need to. Their existence invalidates your comment. “All regulations are bad” is not a realistic or serious position. The word “regulation” is a literal synonym for “law.” So unless you’re arguing for complete lawlessness you have no point whatsoever. And if you ARE arguing for complete lawlessness? Well, good luck with THAT.
It is truly remarkable how the world is shaping out... the world's biggest trading blocs are effectively as per divisions in 1984.
Yes now you quoted 211 correctly.
I quoted YOU correctly.
You agreed with the assertion that “all regulation is bad.” Why are you trying to claim you didn’t post that? I’ve quoted it twice now.
Yes you quoted something another guy said twice. I misunderstood & thought it was about governmental control over businesses? Not about traffic laws et al? I mustve misunderstood the whole thread?
I said for the region. For example, manufacturing hourly wages are literally over twice as high in China as compared to Vietnam. Pay is even higher in most of the EU and in US/Canada than in China, but manufacturing at the volumes Apple needs mostly wouldn't work well there anyway because the supply chain and labour force just isn't sufficient. Pay for manufacturing in China is higher than in Mexico though. Mexico also has lower worker efficiency.
To summarize: Labour costs in China are cheaper than in the US, but are higher than many, many other countries including Mexico, and much higher than other countries in the region. However, the even bigger issue is the skilled labour supply and the supply chain, which simply is inadequate in most countries including US/Canada and the EU.
Can Messages actually be uninstalled? I know some stock iOS apps can but I’ve never heard about Messages.
This latest move is more about encryption than it is about retaliation for an impending TikTok ban.
They are simply tired of having to try and break the encryption so they can monitor the messages.
For Messages, they probably force the use of iCloud to back them up and they can get to them that way.
They are simply tired of having to try and break the encryption so they can monitor the messages.
For Messages, they probably force the use of iCloud to back them up and they can get to them that way.
The result of an actual growing economy where the people are becoming richer, not fake growth like in the US where we count bank overdraft fees and credit card debt as 'economic growth.' Westerns complain about "sweatshops" which China eliminated a long time ago and one consequence of this is people are paid better and therefore manufacturing costs rise. That's why China have such a vested interest in improving the economies of developing countries all over the world, as China starts to manufacture more high tech and luxury goods they want more people around the world to be able to afford them. It's a win win in their eyes, everyone grows together.
Funny how nobody complained about Vietnam being a communist country when Apple starting moving more manufacturing over there.
iCloud users in China have Advanced Data Protection available to them. The same exact feature we have in the US that lets us delete encryption keys (including BACKUP encryption keys) from Apple servers such that nobody at Apple or the government (supposedly) can access the majority of your sensitive iCloud data.
Can you explain this?
Apple’s geofence is locked by account, not by physical region. So in theory this should only bother people using Chinese App Store for some reason while outside of china.
Savvy users can still register Apple ID of another country to circumvent this, and potentially recharge those accounts with foreign gift card to use paid services, unless CCP only allows Chinese App Store to be accessed within china.
US seriously should ban TikTok to send a strong message to china: you ban our apps for decades? We shall return the favour in kind, and lobby the whole world to ban your key apps.
Going to look forward to the day WeChat is banned worldwide.
CCP wants to force the world to accept Foxconn being a “Chinese” company.
Yeah because otherwise all your shareholders gonna moan and complain why the dividend received this year drops sharply compared to last year simply Apple does the right thing. See the problem? Apple can’t do the right thing because ALL of your shareholders collectively refuse to allow Apple to do so.
Well done China for not allowing US based chat apps whatsapp, threads and signal. But you should of kept Telegram.
If I had to guess Apple complies and gives the Chineses government full access to decrypting them. Basically if you send an iMessage to someone in China dont assume it is truly end to end encrypted.