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The difference in attitude is quite clear, when it’s China, a country where you have the majority of your products made, you bow to any demands no questions asked and instantly, but someone like the EU where you only sell products you block, question, deliberately do all you can to sarcasticly abide by the laws and regulations, and in fact work in ways to still breach them but make yourself lots of money.
 
Cook has been expanding to other countries for years, but it's been a struggle for them. China BY FAR has the best infrastructure plus labour force for this. The only real advantage other countries might have is cheaper labour.

China by far has the weakest employee rights and laws, and is cheap, but efficient and good quality. But China means bigger profits at the end of the day.
 
We just presume the world is getting more and more open and information free. Little by little, those in power fear the information at the fingertips of the people. Sad to see voices being hushed in any way possible.. even if by simply disallowing apps that promote community speech.
Information wants to be free. Unless China says “no.”
Every country controls speech and communication. Period.
 
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Time for Apple to finish the job and withdraw from China completely.
Apple bends over backwards for China. It's a key growth market and they will ALWAYS do what China says. Same with Google. I'm not fond of totalitarianism but I enjoy seeing cocky companies being humbled by China.
 
I wonder how iMessage escaped.

Because it backs up to chinese icloud servers where the state got the keys. Kind of: "yeah, whatever, sending is end-to-end encrypted, but we just get the text after it was sent"

It's not like Apple got lots of choices here, but it's kind of ironic that the supposedly free market "forces" them to comply with not so free countries.
 
Manufacturing in [Mainland] China is not the same as selling product in [Mainland] China. While it’s not in Apple’s best interest, I’m sure that Chinese government would be more than happy if Apple stop selling the products in China as long as Apple retained its Chinese manufacturing base.

Restricting certain apps in China is based on a very firm orders from the Chinese government, which would have implications for the sale of Apple products in China. I don’t see how it has anything to do with Chinese manufacturing.

From Apple perspective, restricting the sale of third-party apps is an easy call. The situation with the EU and the DOJ are the exact opposite, Where the governments are trying to force Apple to reduce restrictions on third-party apps.
 
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China by far has the weakest employee rights and laws, and is cheap, but efficient and good quality. But China means bigger profits at the end of the day.
No actually. For the region, the Chinese employee rights and laws are actually stronger than average, but the labour is also significantly more costly than average for the region. However, the infrastructure and availability of skilled labour is excellent, the supply chain is the best in the world, and the results are efficiently made and good quality products, at a moderate (not cheap) manufacturing price.

15 years ago in China the labour was much cheaper relatively speaking, but it is no longer 15 years ago. Pay scales have soared in China in the past 2 decades.
 
Look at the crap Apple has been giving the EU for the past months/year over it's DMA (Digital Markets Act) requirements, they have moaned, complained, gone to court, still moaned and complained, rumoured to leave the EU if Apple was forced to comply with certain rulings and yet when China tells Apple to comply with it's rulings/law, Apple complies with nothing more than 'we comply with the law even if we disagree'. That is not exactly how Apple behaved with the EU was it. Just goes to show how important China is to Apple because when China say's 'jump' Apple replies with 'how High'. When the EU tells Apple to 'jump', Apple replies with 'F off, we'll see you in court'.
Nothing in your post makes sense. Apple has no choice in China as it has everything to lose. China is a dictatorship that wants to block all Western influences.

The EU on the other hand is a democracy where Apple has the freedom to propose, react, evaluate, negotiate, lobby, correct, go to court, appeal, … And most important: the EU does not want to get rid off American companies, but limit the stronghold of gatekeepers on specific markets and platforms.
 
Neither in USA!. Some phone brands are forbidden TOTALLY, that does not happen in China.
Yeah, the ones from the CCP; and I’m happy not not have them. I hope they do the same thing with security cameras. However I would not expect any European tech to be banned in US (I’m referring only to phones).
 
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But this is Communi... Oh wait! :D I heard that 25% of all iPhones are now made in India, so China is not going to be happy about that either!
 
In the meantime nobody talks about US ordering the whole world to do what US want.

Stick to the facts and bring that in consideration before bashing China or EU.
 
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Because it backs up to chinese icloud servers where the state got the keys. Kind of: "yeah, whatever, sending is end-to-end encrypted, but we just get the text after it was sent"

It's not like Apple got lots of choices here, but it's kind of ironic that the supposedly free market "forces" them to comply with not so free countries.

China has Apple’s advanced data protection though which means nobody from the CPC or Apple can read your backups or iMessages in the cloud.
 
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