Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.5.5

[DMann]

Third party installs do not touch system permissions.

This is true, that is, unless the app utilizes Installer.app (Apple's) and creates a receipt package.

You can quote "many problems" if you wish, but how about naming ONE? Just ONE that has been fixed by running "repair permissions". Because system permissions is NOT the source of corrupt plists.

I never claimed that system permissions was the source of corrupt plists. However, when backing up to a non-local (external) volume (like a FireWire HD, a USB 2.0 HD, or a disk from FireWire Target Disk Mode) via ditto (with the --rsrcFork option passed) or Carbon Copy Cloner, (one really shouldn't use drag and drop in the finder or cp to backup OS X volumes, as important metadata can get lost that way) there is one reason that the use of ditto or CCC would require a repair permissions on the volume everything is being backup up to--when the volume has the "Ignore ownership on this volume" checkbox checked. Ignore Ownership on this volume should be unchecked - if not, then none of the permissions will be copied over in the first place and then you have to run repair permissions to make the thing bootable. But its still not recommended as any files not installed by the installer won't have the permissions fixed and could potentially create problems.

The fact is that people do this "repairing permissions", because they feel the need to perform "maintenance" on their computer. When OS X, because it is in fact a UNIX system does not need it. It maintains itself well enough to not require user "maintenance". It is just something people "miss" from the bad old OS 9 days - like the "Rebuild Desktop" voodoo, or "defragging the disk", both of which had more utility than performing "repair permissions" as maintenance. The latter moreso than the former.

Actually, repairing permissions did more good for those utilizing Classic OS9 within OS X. Back in the days of 10.1.5, (pre-Jaguar) if you booted into Mac OS 9 and ran some common applications, compressed and decompressed files, moved or renamed files, or (worse) ran a disk utility like Norton, they could completely destroy the permissions for many files that OS X needed to boot or run correctly. This was fixed in after the 10.2 release, mainly because new Macs were unable to boot from OS9.

it is a troubleshooting tool, not a maintenance you need to perform like a magic ritual ever so often.

All in all, I agree, permission repair is generally overused and will not remedy most common problems. I will therefore refrain from recommending this in the future.

 

[cromdubh]

10.5.5

I just upgraded to OSX v10.5.5 (the 'right way' using a standalone installer from a restart into 'Safe mode.') Now I have problems with 'Disk Permissions' reported from Apple's Disk Utility.

ACL found but not expected on "private/var/root/Library/Preferences".
ACL found but not expected on "private/var/root/Library".
ACL found but not expected on "private/var/root".
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/OwnerGroupTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "user/bin/lppasswd" has been modified and will nto be repaired.
Group differs on "private/etc/cups", should be 0, group is 26.
Permissions differ on "private/var/spool/cups/cache/rss", should be drwxr-xr-x, they are drwxrwxr-x.​

I have repeatedly run the "Repair Permissions" routine, but the errors persistently appear. :-(

Have you got a direct line to my computer?
How can so many people have much the same garbage come up on the permissions utility.
That one is not repairable and keeps recurring is no comfort.

 

[CarlosG]

How about a safe boot? Did you tried that?
Start your Mac holding the SHIFT key.

If your Mac boots okay you can download the combo update 10.5.5.
Try to install the combo update.

This update was the first I did in a long time via Software Update. I stopped using the panel because I used the have some simular troubles after system updates.

I always prefer the combo update. It's safer... Even much safer if you install the update in Safe Boot

Take care

FIXED!!!! Thank you for the help.

I did an archive-install-thingy with the original CDs. I then used the combo updater as you mentioned and everything is back as it was.

Very pleased. Thought I was going to have to do a full wipe/install.

 

[gugy]

Display will not turn on

Hey guys. Yesterday my I updated my Mac Pro with 10.5.5 update. I authenticated and let it go to do it's job. About an hour later, I came back to find the screen blank! I let it set for another 30 minutes and then forced a restart.

Same thing, the screen itself is blank (the backlight does NOT come on). The computer itself boots up just fine as I can hear the sound effects when changing the volume. However, no video comes on the screen.

Here's what I've done to try and fix it:
-Reset the PRAM
-Reset the SMC
-Removed and reseated the RAM
-safe boot


Unfortunately, none of this seems to help! The computer boots up just fine, but the display itself never turns on.

THe Apple technical support said I need to archive and install and go back to 10.5.4 to possibly solve this issue.
I have a MacPro 2.8 octo with dual cinema displays.

Does anybody encounter such a problem? I appreciate any feedback.

 

[4now]

this may sound silly

but have you tried turning up the brightness

I've seen it happen a few time - where the MBP decided to boot with brightness turned right down

and the first time I though it was the screen issue

 

[gugy]

It's a MacPro and the brightness is not the issue.

 

[CarlosG]

Gugy,

Sorry to hear about the problem you are having.

I believe that certain graphics cards received updated drivers in this release.

Sounds very much like a graphics card/driver issue to me. Also, it is probably why Apple told you to go back to 10.5.4. because they'll know if people are having problems with new drivers.

Do an archive & install and update to 10.5.4 -- that is exactly what I had to do -- you'll spend more time trying to sort the problem than just going ahead and reinstalling in the first place.

 

[davidlt]

You know 10.5.5 is the first release that is buggy for me. First problem that I have noticed that sometimes my keyboard start not to work, no response from it and only restart helps to fix it. By the way, I am MacBook user. And I think there are some problems with systems processes. Some of them became CPU-hungry, requiring 100% from both cores for several minutes. Damit, I am the only one having this kind of problems after 10.5.5?

 

[gugy]

Gugy,

Sorry to hear about the problem you are having.

I believe that certain graphics cards received updated drivers in this release.

Sounds very much like a graphics card/driver issue to me. Also, it is probably why Apple told you to go back to 10.5.4. because they'll know if people are having problems with new drivers.

Do an archive & install and update to 10.5.4 -- that is exactly what I had to do -- you'll spend more time trying to sort the problem than just going ahead and reinstalling in the first place.

Thanks Carlos,

I'll go back to 10.5.4

What a pain!

 

[DarkMCS]

You know 10.5.5 is the first release that is buggy for me. First problem that I have noticed that sometimes my keyboard start not to work, no response from it and only restart helps to fix it. By the way, I am MacBook user. And I think there are some problems with systems processes. Some of them became CPU-hungry, requiring 100% from both cores for several minutes. Damit, I am the only one having this kind of problems after 10.5.5?

10.5.5 made my MacBook so unstable... Time Machine would not work, Spotlight was crashing as soon as I tried to use it, Finder would crash for no reason, Safari would throw a beachball every now and then...

I went back to 10.5.4 and it's all good now...

 

[polee]

10.5.5 made my MacBook so unstable... Time Machine would not work, Spotlight was crashing as soon as I tried to use it, Finder would crash for no reason, Safari would throw a beachball every now and then...

I went back to 10.5.4 and it's all good now...

Yes 10.5.5 was the only update that I could not do via software update and had to download the combo version to install. Once installed, my system seems to be working well now.

 

[Havel]

Blizzard needs to make a Native (Carbon) Mac OS X installer for Diablo 1.

 

[Gray-Wolf]

Been since the update version came out, still no issues. Could the particular computer, ie version/age have anything to do with it?

 

[Dokter_Mac]

FIXED!!!! Thank you for the help.

I did an archive-install-thingy with the original CDs. I then used the combo updater as you mentioned and everything is back as it was.

Very pleased. Thought I was going to have to do a full wipe/install.

Great job & no thanks
Take care

 

[kimtran]

Just gone on Software update and 10.5.5 Is there , downloading now

Thanks,

 

[brownbird]

10.5.5 is whack

Hate 10.5.5. It made my system so unstable. I've never had problems with OS updates until this one. I have an 20" iMac 2.4 GHz and it froze all the time, had to hard restart several times, programs crashed left and right. I had to downgrade to 10.5.4. Lame. It made my mac act like a PC!

 

[C8XY]

How do you downgrade your os version?
My 10.5.5 on my iMac is fine but its handy to know....

 

[DMann]

Hate 10.5.5. It made my system so unstable. I've never had problems with OS updates until this one. I have an 20" iMac 2.4 GHz and it froze all the time, had to hard restart several times, programs crashed left and right. I had to downgrade to 10.5.4. Lame. It made my mac act like a PC!

Sounds like corrupted preference files. A clean reinstall and trashing preferences would likely fix that. No problems here with 10.5.5 on 20" and 24" iMacs.

How do you downgrade your os version?
My 10.5.5 on my iMac is fine but its handy to know....

Newer system install disks are version 10.5.4. Another way is to use a Carbon Copy Cloned version to revert to a previous system.

 

[Eric S.]

Newer system install disks are version 10.5.4. Another way is to use a Carbon Copy Cloned version to revert to a previous system.

Or just restore from your Time Machine backup, which hopefully you made before upgrading.

 

[C8XY]

ok thanks, I only got time capsule a week ago so all my back ups are 10.5.5 but my iMac shipped with leopard so I have the instal disk, I thought there may have been a way so restore within osx that's why I asked. Cheers.

 

[GAdawg]

Update not working

So I tried to update from 10.5.4 and got an error. It says:

The update "Mac OS X Update" can't be installed.

The Installer could not validate the contents of the "MacOSXUpd10.5.5Patch" package. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.

I am looked on the Apple website, but im not sure how to get this updated. Anyone else have this problem?
Thanks

 

[iWaldo]

I finally upgraded my MacBook from 10.5.0 to 10.5.5 last week. Some things I've noticed:

• Things seem a little faster overall, though boot time has possibly increased a bit. (In the interest of preserving my sanity, I don't time it.)

• The computer seems noisier now. Before, only the screen inverter made its little high-pitched squeak during normal use. Now there's a constant quiet fan hum, and the hard drive makes noises more frequently. The second one might just be the computer indexing the new files, but the fan thing has me stumped.

• When I connect to a wifi network, the menu bar icon no longer briefly displays the name of the network. I kind of miss that.

• I haven't seen any battery issues. Then again, the battery has never gone below 30%.

• I kind of miss the more translucent top menus.

 

[Eric S.]

• I kind of miss the more translucent top menus.

Do you mean the menu bar? What happened there - is it back to white?
(I haven't upgraded from 10.5.4, and I don't plan to at this time.)

 

[iWaldo]

Do you mean the menu bar? What happened there - is it back to white?
(I haven't upgraded from 10.5.4, and I don't plan to at this time.)

Not the menu bar itself, that's still translucent. But the drop-down menus from the menu bar are for all intents and purposes opaque now. It might be all the OS drop-down menus, I haven't really looked. I did notice that they're still translucent in Safari, though.

 

[BigTRQ]

I just want my MacBook to sleep if I decide not to close it! Trips to the Apple Store, searching Apple Discussions, nothing resolves it. It all started in 10.5.3. After each update 10.5.4 and 10.5.5, I've gone to the Apple Store and the "Genius" there can't figure anything out. But hey, they can't know everything, right?