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It's different, and doesn't conveniently fit in to some people's tiny little worlds.

Specifically:
- The controls are on the headphone wire, so you can't just use any headphones with it
- The controls are very minimal
- It uses voice synthesis to tell you what song/playlist you're hearing/choosing
- It is unconventional in several ways

Which ignores the facts:
- Other compatible headphones are available, adapters will soon be available, and if you want to use really good headphones you probably don't want a Shuffle
- Single/double/triple-clicking the few buttons does what you want, and you're smart enough to figure it out
- The prior Shuffles had no display nor voice
- Apple frequently introduces unconventional products

Basically it's a whine-fest, piling on a new product that's being innovative and cutting the anchors of backward compatability. If you don't like the new Shuffle, the 2nd Gen model is still available, and if you're that whiny you probably don't really want a Shuffle at all. Some of us DO want this new model.

Putting the controls on the headphones for an MP3 product has been done already.. it's not cutting edge... maybe the voice thing is new. Could have been a cool gimmik on the older style ishuf but I don't care... and yes it is unconventional.. an unconventional piece of crap.. the Iphone was unconventional but it was cool... see the diff?
 
Because its not generating the voice in the iPod. Rather its just generating all names/artists in iTunes and then copying them over as separate files. And since they can't be bothered porting the VoiceOver tech to Windows, they just use the built in one.

I was hoping to hear that guys voice from the PC vs Mac tv ads.
 
Putting the controls on the headphones for an MP3 product has been done already.. it's not cutting edge... maybe the voice thing is new. Could have been a cool gimmik on the older style ishuf but I don't care... and yes it is unconventional.. an unconventional piece of crap.. the Iphone was unconventional but it was cool... see the diff?

And yet that "unconventional piece of crap" will sell more units that any product you could ever put together in your dreams.

Just because it's not FOR you doesn't mean it's a piece of crap.

If it breaks down regularly, then it's a piece of crap. This product is just going for the mass market and trying something new. When the 1st gen shuffle came out, tons of people on here were bashing it. Seemed to sell ok.
 
apple is really making a (new) name for themselves as of late.

not only is the new shuffle $10 more than the previous version, but now customers are locked in to use those terrible white ear buds.

but at least it's smaller! because the last one was SO HUGE it gave me a hernia carrying it :rolleyes:

Umm...you know they also DOUBLED the capacity and added features plus made it smaller. Not bad for only 10 more dollars.

You act like they only made is smaller and then increased the price. 2x storage seems to be worth an extra 10 bucks.
 
Hmmm 1/2 the reasons have to do with appearence......

... which is why we're always stressing first impressions... I only mentioned one thing as far as appearance.. the other 3 where functionality unless you meant the 4th thing I said.. but that's a functionality issue cause I will have to reach behind my head to get to the buttons and that will be cumbersome during a run..

so 1/4 of the reasons was appearance
 
Apple Earphones with Remote: $29.
iPod shuffle USB cable: $19.
iPod Shuffle itself: $29[/CENTER]

That's the silliest logic ever. Just because Apple charges us WAY TOO MUCH for the Proprietary USB cable and headphones does NOT mean it's a good deal that we get them "free with any purchase" of an iPod shuffle.

They probably make $17 profit on that $19 cable, including packaging, shipping, and everything else. Apple accessories are more profitable than the iPods themselves!

If you give me $5, a soldering iron, and 10 minutes inside a fry's electronics, I can probably build a compatible USB cable--and I'm not mass-producing them by the [tens of] thousands using chinese labor and machines, either.
 
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, as there are far too many pages to scroll through at work... but:


The only controls on the device itself are the on/off switch and the shuffle/llnear switch, Joswiak said. Apple will ship its own in-ear headphones with the Shuffle, but third-parties will be able to make their own headphones that have the controls, and they'll also make adapters that will let you use the controls with existing headphones, he said.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10193443-37.html?tag=smallCarouselArea.0



I figured as much. That fact should reduce a lot of whining. Still don't know if I'll get it, but it makes a lot more sense. I was scratching my head for a while there.
 
... which is why we're always stressing first impressions... I only mentioned one thing as far as appearance.. the other 3 where functionality unless you meant the 4th thing I said.. but that's a functionality issue cause I will have to reach behind my head to get to the buttons and that will be cumbersome during a run..

so 1/4 of the reasons was appearance

"Ill look like a retard"
 
And yet that "unconventional piece of crap" will sell more units that any product you could ever put together in your dreams.

Just because it's not FOR you doesn't mean it's a piece of crap.

If it breaks down regularly, then it's a piece of crap. This product is just going for the mass market and trying something new. When the 1st gen shuffle came out, tons of people on here were bashing it. Seemed to sell ok.

For me it's a piece of crap... and it's really not that new.. except the voice thingy... but I'm not impressed.
 
Yes, those two you also have to pay for, those two!

Oh I see, they should offer a version where you just get the shuffle, no connectors and no earbuds so its cheaper, right?
:confused:

What sense does that make?

Edit: To lestdog: Is ANYONE ever impressed by the lowest end products that companies offer? Its supposed to be strictly a music playing device, whats supposed to wow you?
 
Personally, i think you have to also look at the negatives of the OLD shuffle...

*The clip sucked, and mine broke, so i had to keep it in my pocket. And this new clip looks well upto the job, more robust than the old rubbish one.
*Because of the lame clip that falls of when running, you have to stick it in your pocket, and dig it out everytime you wanna skip a track. Surely this new "absolutely rediculous" system on the headphones will stop me from digging it out my pocket.
*Lovely bright colours, right? What if you wanna use one at school? id get busted with a bright blue/ pink/ green shuffle cause it would stand out on a black shirt. Would a tiny black one get seen as easily at school? no. (stick the headphone wires under the shirt tbf)
*2GB, 500 songs, fantastic. other than the fact most of my songs are in 320 kbps format therefore i get more towards 300 than 500, then take into account most of my songs are over 4 mins, so lets say 250 songs MAX. 4GB surely would give me more variety.

After saying all this, I personally wont buy one. £59 is far too dear. But when the price drops, ill be getting one for the gym.
 
and does the voice over even work with tracktitels and artists in other languages, say, dutch, or german or something like that?
 
That's the silliest logic ever. Just because Apple charges us WAY TOO MUCH for the Proprietary USB cable and headphones does NOT mean it's a good deal that we get them "free with any purchase" of an iPod shuffle.

They probably make $17 profit on that $19 cable, including packaging, shipping, and everything else. Apple accessories are more profitable than the iPods themselves!

If you give me $5, a soldering iron, and 10 minutes inside a fry's electronics, I can probably build a compatible USB cable--and I'm not mass-producing them by the [tens of] thousands using chinese labor and machines, either.

Yes, everyone know that.
However, that is the reality and we can't do anything about that.
If my dog will eat my headphones, I'll just go to Apple Store and buy them for $29.
 
(Don't know if anyone mentioned it)

Like Apple has said there will be an adapter for 3rd party headphones.
You don't think that they are dumb enough to do that are you?
 
I've wanted something like Voiceover for my car stereo. Hopefully they bring this tech to the iPhone.
 
(Don't know if anyone mentioned it)

Like Apple has said there will be an adapter for 3rd party headphones.
You don't think that they are dumb enough to do that are you?

Well they have been dumb enough not to give me an adaptor so I can run the new 24 inch monitor on my 2 year old mac pro...
 
With a $29 pair of earphones in the box, you're getting the 4GB iPod for $50. I know that quite a few people here don't like the earbuds (I never liked the OLD bigger earbuds, but personally find these just fine) -- but I remember when the original 1,000-songs-in-your-pocket iPod came out in 2001 and cost me $399. True you're getting 1 less GB and no screen, but -- wow... $50 for 1000 songs!

I know I'm in the minority here but I think they definitely have value. Heck even just buying a 4GB flash drive will cost you around $20. I think Apple's put a lot of value in this product.
 
*2GB, 500 songs, fantastic. other than the fact most of my songs are in 320 kbps format therefore i get more towards 300 than 500, then take into account most of my songs are over 4 mins, so lets say 250 songs MAX. 4GB surely would give me more variety.

I do 320 as well. That's about 2MB a minute, right?

1500MB after formatting, divided by 2MB/min = 750min

750 minutes is over 12 hours. So I just have to ask: How much do you run!?!? Are you Forest Gump or something!?!?
 
I do 320 as well. That's about 2MB a minute, right?

1500MB after formatting, divided by 2MB/min = 750min

750 minutes is over 12 hours. So I just have to ask: How much do you run!?!? Are you Forest Gump or something!?!?
I personally hate listening to the same set of songs every time I work out, sometimes your in that super pumped up mood, sometimes its the "i gotta work out today i guess" mood. Its nice to have a decent sized collection.
 
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