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Besides... every screen, LCD too, does deteriorate over time. Burn-in, image-retention, less brightness from the backlights (including damaged zones) or washed out colours of LCD panels, it all happens. Milage varies per model/brand.

OLED's deterioration is an issue on a whole different level than what traditional LEDs experience. OLEDs require a lot more care and specific solutions to help preventing permanently damaging the display when bright, static elements are shown for a prolonged time. It's one of the main drawbacks of the technology.
 
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OLED's deterioration is an issue on a whole different level than what traditional LEDs experience. OLEDs require a lot more care and specific solutions to help preventing permanently damaging the display when bright, static elements are shown for a prolonged time. It's one of the main drawbacks of the technology.
Exactly. For that and many other reasons, LCD has still stuck around. When history looks back, the transistions will be CRT > LCD > LED, and OLED will be the odd sideshow/stopgap solution.

(What we call LED, really is LCD with a LED backlight. What we call MicroLED, really is LED proper.)
 
Depends on the viewing distance but I must say a 42" panel could work for me, but not if it costs $ 15,000 which I suspect it will considering the price of the smaller ones. I wish they'd make big panels that are a bit cheaper for less pro users who still want a bigger screen. At least there's still Asus, Sony etc.
 
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32" imac i bet a lot of people will buy it
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People are bothered today by the price of 27in. 5k displays. Unless prices drop seriously a 32in. iMac would be absurdly expensive, probably old iMac Pro expensive. Some people might buy it, but certainly not a lot.

I think a 32in. iMac would also be rather cumbersome and unwieldy.

No one knows whats going to happen within the next two months, never mind four years from now.
 
OLED technology has really matured so much so that Samsung quit LCD panels and makes OLED tvs now. Your iPhone 14 pros are OLED based.

Samsung makes also OLED TVs, but they still also definitely have other LED technologies even in their newest TV lineup.

Furthermore, TV content is very different from a desktop UI and lead to a very different longevity of an OLED panel compared to desktop use.
 
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OLED's deterioration is an issue on a whole different level than what traditional LEDs experience. OLEDs require a lot more care and specific solutions to help preventing permanently damaging the display when bright, static elements are shown for a prolonged time. It's one of the main drawbacks of the technology.

Yes, I know. I work in the television production engineering business (+25 years) and we do have our share of wearing down screens to the max. ;) Back in the day of CRT we faced similar issues. I have to say though that LCD screens also don't like showing static graphics too. Logo's and other status displays do burn-in on LCD too. Some of our multiviewer LCD screens we have are permanently damaged after 6-12 months 12/7 to 24/7 use and nothing worked to restore the pixels. How much damage varies per model/brand though.
 
I must admit I'm concerned about OLED on my Mac where the screen is left on for 7-8 hours a day while working.

It's acceptable on my iPhone and Watch because I just don't interact with them that much or leave them idle on a static screen. That's not the case with my computers.

I recently purchased an OLED desktop monitor last year and after a full day of work, it brought up a warning dialogue box that it needed to perform some kind of pixel refreshing to maintain the display and stop burn-in. (Asus PG42UQ).

I don't expect Apple to bring up such dialogues, but I do expect the computer to dim when it thinks you're not looking at the screen anymore like with the iPhone and for me I don't think that's acceptable.

I would much prefer they continue with MiniLED-based FALD backlighting since there's no risk of burn-in. They just need to increase the zone count vastly from the current 2,500 zones with 10,000 LED's to maybe 10,000 zones with 40,000 LED's.
Hopefully they also figure it out for the watch soon since using the always on display does make it burn in. Have a series 6 that's usually on one set screen with always on display on.. and if i use the flashlight feature on it you can see the ring complications in the corner. (i mean doesn't bother me that much since its mostly showing the same watch face anyway and to be really noticeable you need a full bright white background and that's just not any of the apps or watch faces show anyway but more of a concern on laptop screen / monitor
 
Actually, recent OLED's are more prone to burn-in than the earlier models according to recent testing from rtings.com just last month where they tested the latest LG WOLED and Samsung QD-OLED technology.

According to the article, this is about QD-LED vs WOLED:

LG Display explained that the reason its panels fared better is thanks to its use of white subpixels. The deeper meaning of this explanation was lost on no one. Samsung has made LG’s white subpixel a prime target in its promotion of QD-OLED panels, claiming that the white subpixel reduces color accuracy by washing out the adjacent subpixels.

For its part, LG is now striking back by saying that without the brightness boost afforded by those white subpixels, Samsung is pushing its own OLED pixels too hard and that burn-in is the consequence of doing so.


In addition, QD-OLED has the problem of more color fringing. (https://www.thefpsreview.com/2022/0...-alienware-aw3423dw-samsung-qd-oled-monitors/)
 
Would this be higher than 8K like the 32” display is 6K, something like 10K? I’m assuming it’s done like that to get a full 4K preview of video content and the rest is used for software UI and to fit Apple’s ppi retina requirements.
 
Samsung makes also OLED TVs, but they still also definitely have other LED technologies even in their newest TV lineup.
Samsung Display has stopped manufacturing LCD panels last year and has sold its related US patents to a Chinese company (https://www.thelec.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=4183). While Samsung Electronics (separate company) still sells LCD TVs and monitors, those use Chinese panels now. Due to the general trend in LCD panel pricing, the manufacturing in Korea probably wasn’t competitive anymore.
 
Of course this is dependent on Samsung or others being able to fabricate Apple panel designs. This is likely why this may take until until 2027. These are not vender designed OLED displays that Apple is simply purchasing. They are costumed designed and engineered.
 
I must admit I'm concerned about OLED on my Mac where the screen is left on for 7-8 hours a day while working.

It's acceptable on my iPhone and Watch because I just don't interact with them that much or leave them idle on a static screen. That's not the case with my computers.

I recently purchased an OLED desktop monitor last year and after a full day of work, it brought up a warning dialogue box that it needed to perform some kind of pixel refreshing to maintain the display and stop burn-in. (Asus PG42UQ).

I don't expect Apple to bring up such dialogues, but I do expect the computer to dim when it thinks you're not looking at the screen anymore like with the iPhone and for me I don't think that's acceptable.

I would much prefer they continue with MiniLED-based FALD backlighting since there's no risk of burn-in. They just need to increase the zone count vastly from the current 2,500 zones with 10,000 LED's to maybe 10,000 zones with 40,000 LED's.

This is TC’s dirty way of doing things. They will increase cost of Apple Care+ and repairing. More people will buy the extended warranty. Due to burn in, more people will change their computers in shorter period of time. More profit for the company.
 
Finally a 42" screen. I won't upgrade from my ASD for anything smaller. See you in 2027.
 
While Samsung Electronics (separate company) still sells LCD TVs and monitors, those use Chinese panels now. Due to the general trend in LCD panel pricing, the manufacturing in Korea probably wasn’t competitive anymore.

Yes, highest-end TVs are OLEDs: the trend is clear there, but also TV content in general is less prone to cause permanent panel damage due to static elements. All OLED TVs, including Samsung's, have to incorporate technology to mitigate damage to the panel.

Also only the very latest generation of OLED TVs have the technology to push the brightness on par with traditional LED backlight models: before that OLED TVs were usually not the best choice for viewing in bright rooms. Again, this is typically less an issue for a TV which is often watched in the dark, but typically a very realistic issue for a computer.
 
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