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I know the EU wanted Apple to change to USB-C, but did the EU ever challenge the integrated authenticator chip in lightening? Apple also plans to limit USB speeds on the lower priced 15 models so Apple is definitely not giving us the truly open USB-C experience we were hoping for. I guess a port-less iPhone is only a couple of years away given Apple’s reluctance to make all of our USB-C dreams come true.
The primary reason for the EU directive was to reduce e-waste which has gotten out of hand with proprietary cables chargers etc.... The directive really doesn't address a mfg. limiting speeds provided the cable is functional.

It is also disappointing that Apple took so long to make the change considering is tries to claim it is a "environmentally responsible" company.
 
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On the one hand, ha called it.

On the other, the chip is probably to make sure your cable and/or brick have the correct specs to safely charge the phone.

But it's probably to nerf the charging to USB 2 power levels, so ha.
 
I feel like I must be missing something here. Are you saying that you don't mind getting screwed over by Apple so long as the Europe union also gets owned? If so, what a weird flex. Especially considering that the EU has all the power over commerce in their regions and Apple telling them to "buzz off" would be an unprecedented drop in revenue for the company as a whole. The EU is Apple's 2nd largest market by profit and even if you combine the third and fourth (China and Japan) it would still come in less than what the EU generates by itself. So no, with that kind of money on the line Apple won't be telling them to buzz off any time soon.

I’m saying a government should not be dictating to a company what charging standards they use. If and when they are forced to by said government, people shouldn’t get angry when they follow it to the letter and nothing else.

Seems like people want USB4 speeds with a USBC connector on a phone that’s $650, made by Apple. Like, seriously? Do you want a Ferrari for $25,000 too?
 
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The iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro's USB-C port and accompanying charging cables will feature a Lightning-like authenticator chip, potentially limiting their functionality with Apple-unapproved accessories, a rumor shared on Weibo suggests.

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The rumor declares that Apple has developed its own variant of USB-C for this year's iPhone 15 lineup and comes from a user who claims to be an integrated circuit expert with 25 years of experience working on Intel's Pentium processors.

Integrated circuit (IC) interfaces are semiconductor chips used to manage the sharing of information between devices. Since their introduction in 2012, first-party and MFi-certified Lightning ports and connectors contain a small IC that confirms the authenticity of the parts involved in the connection. Non-MFi-certified third-party charging cables, for example, do not feature this chip, often leading to "This accessory is not supported" warnings on connected Apple devices.

The authenticator chip allows Apple to encourage customers to buy genuine iPhone peripherals and receive a commission on MFi-certified accessories, but it also allows Apple to tackle counterfeit and potentially dangerous accessories.

The latest rumor seems to suggest that Apple has developed a similar custom IC for the USB-C ports on the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro, and presumably its charging cables. As well as the iPhone 15 lineup, the new IC is apparently destined for new MFi-certified peripherals.

It is worth noting that the USB-C interface currently used by Apple in the 10th-generation iPad, iPad mini, iPad Air, and iPad Pro, do not contain an IC chip for authentication, meaning that this would be a first for ports of this kind offered by the company.

It is unclear if this addition could have any major implications for the functionality of the new devices, but it is possible that Apple could limit features like fast charging and high-speed data transfer to Apple and MFi-certified cables.

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the USB-C port on the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus will remain limited to USB 2.0 speeds – the same as Lightning. Only the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max models will apparently get faster charging speeds. As a result, the only major difference between Lightning and USB-C on the standard iPhone 15 models could simply be the physical shape of the connector.

The report is particularly believable since this would effectively mirror the split between the entry-level iPad and the iPad Pro. While both iPad models feature a USB-C port, the 10th-generation iPad is limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps, while the iPad Pro offers fully fledged Thunderbolt speeds up to 40 Gbps.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning to Limit iPhone 15's USB-C Port in the Same Way as Lightning

As long as I can use any USB-C to charge the thing, I'm fine with that. Sure, apple. Go ahead and progressively enhance the connectivity/security/privacy stuff with a proprietary cable. But please, for the love of dog, just let me make it easy to charge my device considering iOS drains the battery.
 
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The primary reason for the EU directive was to reduce e-waste which has gotten out of hand with proprietary cables chargers etc.... The directive really doesn't address a mfg. limiting speeds provided the cable is functional.

It is also disappointing that Apple took so long to make the change considering is tries to claim it is a "environmentally responsible" company.
I mean reducing e-waste by making you purchase new cables to replace the ones that won't work with your new device seems oxymoronic. Because if I get a 15 with USBC, all my cables will have to be replaced. The only USBC cable I have is for my Anker headphones and probably aren't rated for iPhone charging. Which means I toss my perfectly fine Anker cables and purchase new ones. For no actual reason.
 
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How about engineering a way to protect the iPhone from faulty cables rather than trying to identify cable that give Apple a cut of the profits 🤔
You’re literally asking for BOTH sides of the coin.

Cut of profits, just curious but how much do you think it costs to participate in the MFI program? How much of a cut off each device sold does Apple get? Do you have an answer to that, or are you just wildly speculating?
 
If really true I suspect that the EU may have something to say about this as the main push from the EU is to standardize on USB-C to allow for multiple use cables and charging systems to limit e-waste.

It's called the common charger directive. It's not intended to make USB-C universal for data transfer or making cables universally accepted.

The main purpose is to make sure fewer charger are produced and sold. That's why it also guarantees your right to buy an iPhone without an included charger.
 
You’re literally asking for BOTH sides of the coin.

Cut of profits, just curious but how much do you think it costs to participate in the MFI program? How much of a cut off each device sold does Apple get? Do you have an answer to that, or are you just wildly speculating?
If you’re privy to the MFI costs I’m sure it would be interesting to a lot of people including me. I don’t make cables but I’ve read articles (not lately) that it could be as high as 10%.

My admittedly primitive understanding is that USB-C is a standard so I’m not sure why a cable would have to be approved by Apple.

I’m happy to be educated.
 
I’m saying a government should not be dictating to a company what charging standards they use. If and when they are forced to by said government, people shouldn’t get angry when they follow it to the letter and nothing else.

Seems like people want USB4 speeds with a USBC connector on a phone that’s $650, made by Apple. Like, seriously? Do you want a Ferrari for $25,000 too?
His opinion is valid, and more correct than yours to me.
 
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The iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro's USB-C port and accompanying charging cables will feature a Lightning-like authenticator chip, potentially limiting their functionality with Apple-unapproved accessories, a rumor shared on Weibo suggests.

iPhone-15-to-Switch-From-Lightning-to-USB-C-in-2023-feature-sans-arrow.jpg

The rumor declares that Apple has developed its own variant of USB-C for this year's iPhone 15 lineup and comes from a user who claims to be an integrated circuit expert with 25 years of experience working on Intel's Pentium processors.

Integrated circuit (IC) interfaces are semiconductor chips used to manage the sharing of information between devices. Since their introduction in 2012, first-party and MFi-certified Lightning ports and connectors contain a small IC that confirms the authenticity of the parts involved in the connection. Non-MFi-certified third-party charging cables, for example, do not feature this chip, often leading to "This accessory is not supported" warnings on connected Apple devices.

The authenticator chip allows Apple to encourage customers to buy genuine iPhone peripherals and receive a commission on MFi-certified accessories, but it also allows Apple to tackle counterfeit and potentially dangerous accessories.

The latest rumor seems to suggest that Apple has developed a similar custom IC for the USB-C ports on the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro, and presumably its charging cables. As well as the iPhone 15 lineup, the new IC is apparently destined for new MFi-certified peripherals.

It is worth noting that the USB-C interface currently used by Apple in the 10th-generation iPad, iPad mini, iPad Air, and iPad Pro, do not contain an IC chip for authentication, meaning that this would be a first for ports of this kind offered by the company.

It is unclear if this addition could have any major implications for the functionality of the new devices, but it is possible that Apple could limit features like fast charging and high-speed data transfer to Apple and MFi-certified cables.

According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the USB-C port on the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus will remain limited to USB 2.0 speeds – the same as Lightning. Only the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max models will apparently get faster charging speeds. As a result, the only major difference between Lightning and USB-C on the standard iPhone 15 models could simply be the physical shape of the connector.

The report is particularly believable since this would effectively mirror the split between the entry-level iPad and the iPad Pro. While both iPad models feature a USB-C port, the 10th-generation iPad is limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps, while the iPad Pro offers fully fledged Thunderbolt speeds up to 40 Gbps.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning to Limit iPhone 15's USB-C Port in the Same Way as Lightning
I love that apple is keen on keeping its apple products safe, Its one of the main reasons Im fully invested into apple and its products, Thank you Tim Cook keep up the good fight
 
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Apple wants me to put the Lightning cables into the trashcan and buy 10x Apple Certified USB-C Cables for $69 each. "Apple is committed to protecting the environment " LOL. Oh I have to trash the $2 amazon USB-C cables too as they won't work. LOL
 
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It’d be an incredibly awful move to use USB speeds to differentiate between pro and base models I feel.
 
Apple Reportedly Planning to Limit iPhone 15's USB-C Port in the Same Way as Lightning


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Yes, that's correct. According to recent reports, Apple is planning to limit the USB-C port on the upcoming iPhone 15 in a similar way as the Lightning port on its previous models. The exact details of these limitations are not yet known, but it could potentially restrict the use of third-party accessories and increase the cost of replacement cables and other components.
 
I don't care about some warning here and there, but sticking with USB 2.0 speeds is a crime.
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