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They spend more time giving app demos during the keynote than talking about their new products, am I the only one who finds this boring
 
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The iPad is a tertiary device for most people (not everyone). There's just no justifying investing nearly $1000 in a tertiary device.
That’s my issue. My phone is my primary device so I’ve no issues spending £1,000 plus each year on the latest iPhone. However my iPad is only used for consumption so I’m not going to upgrade it every year. Last year I spent £1,038 for my 256GB iPad Pro with Apple Pencil, keyboard and Apple care. So I’m going to keep it for a while longer.

I use my MacBook even less so I keep it for longer and won’t typically spend as much on it as my phone.

The new iPads are very powerful but I just won’t use it for anything more than consumption.
 
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The pricing on these things makes my tummy hurt but damn they look SO good..but how come no love for rose gold? What are the odds these drop in price for BF?
 
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That’s my issue. My phone is my primary device so I’ve no issues spending £1,000 plus each year on the latest iPhone. However my iPad is only used for consumption so I’m not going to upgrade it every year. Last year I spend £1,038 for my 256GB iPad Pro with Apple Pencil, keyboard and Apple care. So I’m going to keep it for a while longer.

I use my MacBook even less so I keep it for longer and won’t typically spend as much on it as my phone.

The new iPads are very powerful but I just won’t use it for anything more than consumption.

Couldn’t agree with this more, the iPad can never replace a computer
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The pricing on these things makes my tummy hurt but damn they look SO good..but how come no love for rose gold? What are the odds these drop in price for BF?

Doubt they’d have any offers on their new products probably will give vouchers with older products on Black Friday
 
If you can’t justify paying a higher price then the solution is simple - DON’T BUY ONE. Apple can’t rob you if you don’t willingly hand over your money to them.

This happens every time Apple rolls out new products. Entitled whiners come out of the woodwork screaming about how Apple is personally screwing them with price increases. What you all fail to understand is that Apple charges what they charge and raises prices BECAUSE THEY CAN. Price increases haven’t hurt demand and they certainly haven’t hurt their stock price.

This is basic economics.
I’ll never understand people like you who call people that are shocked at an unnecessary price increase of $200 “entitled whiners”. Nobody is acting entitled to everything. But with pricing, you are giving expectations. People expect if there’s a price increase it’s going to be justified. Face ID is cool, but $200 worth of cool? People expected an increase and were ready, but not for that much.

But ok. Being shocked at an increase and being vocal on a forum is now “entitled whining”
 
Tell me why Apple kept saying that the iPad Pro is a replacement for a computer the whole way through the keynote
Because they want you to buy the new one. But until Adobe ports InDesign to the iPad, I will never consider it a computer replacement even if Apple does.
 
Then you CANT afford it. People who can really afford it wont scoff at a price difference of 150-200$ over what they expected. If an extra $100-200 is the deciding factor over you buying it or not then you shouldnt be buying it.
That is your opinion.

There are those of us who can easily afford the new iPad Pros but when assessing the VALUE of it, see the MSRP as NOT a good value proposition. Making wise financial decisions involve the both the ability to pay and if the product is worth the price being asked.

Many will look at these new iPad Pros and eagerly pay MSRP for it and all of the accessories. Some of us will buy one in 6-8 weeks when they go on sale. $100-$150 off (and similar discounts on accessories) can add up. Others will pass on these and go with something like the 2018 iPad since they don't see 3x time value in an iPad Pro that costs 3x the price.
 
Because they want you to buy the new one. But until Adobe ports InDesign to the iPad, I will never consider it a computer replacement even if Apple does.

Exactly, it will never be a computer replacement and Apple should stop claiming that it is
 
The new iPads are very powerful but I just won’t use it for anything more than consumption.
Exactly. My iPhone is far more of a useful professional tool than my iPad is.
Right now it is a plate off of which I "consume" content created by others.

Couldn’t agree with this more, the iPad can never replace a computer
Well, never say never, but definitely not a computer replacement while it lacks an easily accessible file system.
I like to know where my files are…
 
Because they want you to buy the new one. But until Adobe ports InDesign to the iPad, I will never consider it a computer replacement even if Apple does.

The file sizes of these adobe programs(Like Photoshop, etc) I assume the 256GB ipad pro is enough?) Im used to PC version of photoshop file size so honestly have no clue how big these files will be
 
The 12.9 256GB Wifi just jumped from £869 on release last year to £1190 for this release. You get the exact same ability, just faster and Face ID. The keynote even said the A10X was already a beast of a SOC so what exactly is the £321 extra buying me?
I'm likely to stick with the 2nd Gen for the time being. Will see what reviews come out with but finding it hard to justify a 37% increase in price. The analogy of BMW cars is not accurate because BMW do not charge a 37% premium on a new facelift 3 series over the current 3 series - in most cases they come in around the same or even a little lower!.

I've gone from buying both Pro models to considering none this time around!
 
Well... Apple has just released their new iPad Pro and I’m speechless, if you were going to use this iPad as a computer you would need to get the bigger size, the keyboard case and the Apple Pencil, all of this would cost £1,287, yet I can go buy the new MacBook Air for £1,199 and that has a bigger display, a physical keyboard, Touch ID, 2 USB C ports compared to 1 and 128gb compared to the base model iPad Pro 12.9” at 64gb. This is absolutely outrageous Apple are charging more money for their iPads than for their laptops, I can’t tell you how angry I am, I feel like Apple are trying to rob me, they should of at least included the Appl pencil and or the keyboard case in the box, this makes me feel sick.
on your ipad you get more SSD and more cpu power ...you compare the top of the line ipad pro with base spec macbook air?
 
The file sizes of these adobe programs(Like Photoshop, etc) I assume the 256GB ipad pro is enough?) Im used to PC version of photoshop file size so honestly have no clue how big these files will be

The 64gb base model is an insult, if they want people to be able to use this as a computer they’ll need at lease 128gb of storage
 
Exactly. My iPhone is far more of a useful professional tool than my iPad is.
Right now it is a plate off of which I "consume" content created by others.


Well, never say never, but definitely not a computer replacement while it lacks an easily accessible file system.
I like to know where my files are…
Even though I use my MacBook less I’d rather par more for a computer than an iPad because it has the potential to do more and you don’t know what you might need it for on the future.
 
I’ll never understand people like you who call people that are shocked at an unnecessary price increase of $200 “entitled whiners”. Nobody is acting entitled to everything. But with pricing, you are giving expectations. People expect if there’s a price increase it’s going to be justified. Face ID is cool, but $200 worth of cool? People expected an increase and were ready, but not for that much.

But ok. Being shocked at an increase and being vocal on a forum is now “entitled whining”
The flaw in your reasoning is that you’re assuming that the standard for what's justified and what is not for price increases is the same for everyone. It’s clearly not.

I for one am planning on buying one of these. I’m fine paying more money for it. Sorry if that marginalizes your ability to send Apple the message that you think their prices are too high but frankly, I couldn’t care less about your opinion. And if Apple sees the level of demand maintained despite the price increase, they and their shareholders obviously couldn’t care less either.
 
The 64gb base model is an insult, if they want people to be able to use this as a computer they’ll need at lease 128gb of storage
My main computer just happens to be a 10.5 with 64gb. Lots of people just like me too. With things moving more in the cloud and streaming
 

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The 64gb base model is an insult, if they want people to be able to use this as a computer they’ll need at lease 128gb of storage

I usually get 256GB anyway so that's fine but damn these prices :( for the adobe programs I assume that is enough? This will be my first time ordering on apples site..so my question is, I have 14 days to return at apple, if I see next week the BF ads and this is included and there is a price drop can I return it to apple no restocking fee?
 
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I usually get 256GB anyway so that's fine but damn these prices :( for the adobe programs I assume that is enough? This will be my first time ordering on apples site..so my question is, I have 14 days to return at apple, if I see next week the BF ads and this is included and there is a price drop can I return it to apple no restocking fee?

As long as within 14 days you can return with no fees
 
The 64gb base model is an insult, if they want people to be able to use this as a computer they’ll need at lease 128gb of storage
The people who use an iPad as they’re main computing device today are not what we used to call “power users”. For those who’s workflows are centered around email and websites (which many professionals are, just ask a realtor) they definitely can (and have for several years now) use just 64GB of memory for their jobs.

Not every professional is a content creator.
 
Unless you're using these in business, I can't see spending over 1k for one of these. The same 1000 for a phone argument should apply. It's a tablet, not a computer even if the tablet is becoming more capable. For me, it's more entertainment/complimentary. 512? 1 TB? LOL Umm..no thanks. I hate even having to up to 256 and forget the LTE. Wifi is good enough as I hardly use the LTE. These will get discounted shortly to get under 1k.

Hopefully I only have to pay around 800 for 12.9" later.
 
The flaw in your reasoning is that you’re assuming that the standard for what's justified and what is not for price increases is the same for everyone. It’s clearly not.

I for one am planning on buying one of these. I’m fine paying more money for it. Sorry if that marginalizes your ability to send Apple the message that you think their prices are too high but frankly, I couldn’t care less about your opinion. And if Apple sees the level of demand maintained despite the price increase, they and their shareholders obviously couldn’t care less either.

I don’t care whether you buy one or not. And the last thing I care to do is send Apple a message. We’re having a simple discussion on a forum where people talk about how they feel about stuff and your last sentence is talking about how you don’t care about opinions. Why..even...talk...then? You may as well go talk to yourself in a mirror in your own personal safe space if all you care about is opinions that don’t differ from your own.

I’ll probably get a new iPad at some point. I’m not dying to right now, but I will. Just because I’m not crazy about price increase doesn’t mean I’m boycotting Apple. Something you need to learn about nuance. Not everything is black and white
 
I usually get 256GB anyway so that's fine but damn these prices :( for the adobe programs I assume that is enough? This will be my first time ordering on apples site..so my question is, I have 14 days to return at apple, if I see next week the BF ads and this is included and there is a price drop can I return it to apple no restocking fee?

There's no rush. I understand the desire to preorder today and gotta have it soonest desires. But adobe said 2019 for their photoshop on ipad. There's always 100-150 off deals on ipads. Just be patient.
 
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If Apple keeps increasing their prices for their products the same way they are right now, how much will we be paying for their products in 5 years from now?!
 
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