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tharitm

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MBP ordered within 10 minutes of store opening, 16gb/1tb/silver

I briefly saw an ETA on this page saying 11/18, but that ETA has now disappeared.

Fingers crossed that it arrives tomorrow!! If not, then Wednesday will be busy, cuz that's when I get my HomePod Minis!
Hate to say this, but I think it might not show up tomorrow since it just left China. The custom-config Macs are bit delayed.
 

tharitm

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Question for those whose computer arrives tomorrow: how do y’all feel a the 8GB of ram?

my current laptop is 2016 2TB MBP, ordered a base MBA

I’m not a pro user at all, I’m in medical school and the most intensive thing I do is have 15 tabs open along with a flash card app and maybe a pdf, but what do y’all think? Why did you guys feel okay with 8GB of ram? I wanted to get 16 gb of ram but couldn’t justify the 20% increase in price, now having second thoughts
Honestly, we don't know. Only people who have the closest experience are those who got Mac Mini dev kits, but we are clueless on this as much as you are. I also ordered the 8GB. This is fairly a different beast from what we are used to (Intel Macs or iPads), so only thing to do right now is wait until tomorrow for reviews and user experiences.
 
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Exhile

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Question for those whose computer arrives tomorrow: how do y’all feel a the 8GB of ram?

my current laptop is 2016 2TB MBP, ordered a base MBA

I’m not a pro user at all, I’m in medical school and the most intensive thing I do is have 15 tabs open along with a flash card app and maybe a pdf, but what do y’all think? Why did you guys feel okay with 8GB of ram? I wanted to get 16 gb of ram but couldn’t justify the 20% increase in price, now having second thoughts
My Space Grey base model MacBook Air 256GB/8GB/8 Core/7 Core GPU will be used for basic communication tasks and lite web surfing as well as watching videos. I plan to test the 1 extended monitor setup using the Thunderbolt port/USB-C with my MBA and that is about it. I will be installing the Microsoft Office 365 Apps and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC into the MBA. 8GB RAM or 16GB RAM really depends on what apps and programs you will have open.

I am surprised that you did not take advantage of the student discount Apple is offering.
 
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bill-p

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To be frank most people are basing their memory requirements based on x86_64 PCs, which is a poor comparison to these ARM machines.

We know from web browsing on iPhone/iPad that even with 2gb, Safari can make many tabs feel comfortable.

I think Apple wouldn't be selling a machine with 8gb if that wasn't enough for most people.

Here's the perspective of someone who has been using Macs with at least 16GB: it's not about whether 8GB is "enough" or not. It's more that...
...this is a computer, with many things running concurrently in the background at all times, unlike the iPhone or iPad, which only run one app at a time and are now having 4GB and 6GB of RAM respectively.

RAM is not cheap, but it's a necessity if you know you'll be running high resolution stuffs. Websites now load high resolution photos and assets, and even PDFs have embedded vector graphics or high resolution photos.

Is memory requirement on x86_64 unrealistic for ARM? I don't think so. Even if it's unrealistic, consider this scenario:

I have MacRumors.com, Facebook.com, and Capture One 21 open.
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Notice I've already hit 10GB of swap usage even with 16GB of RAM, and all I'm doing are photo editing, web browsing, and emails. What magical thing will ARM allow for that will make this scenario any better? I haven't even launched up my IDE or started Fusion 360, either...

Again, the iPhone and iPad are poor comparisons because those only run one app at a time. They allow for certain (limited) services to run in the background, but apps are not allowed to run in the background for too long in iOS, so memory is more tightly managed than on Mac OS. RAM requirement is going to blow up on Mac OS, which is precisely why 16GB RAM is offered, and also precisely why some are asking for 32GB options.
 

Stromos

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I'm thinking all the custom models must be shipping via FedEx. The one I ordered is a custom build and it is also shipping via FedEx. Currently in Shanghai with a delivery estimate of November 24th.
Nope Custom Air here coming UPS. Pleasantly surprised my order placed a day later is still coming tomorrow. Apple Store said Nov 24-27th. Granted nothing I have ever ordered from Apple has come Fedex in my memory.
 

person123

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I bought the 8GB ram Macbook Pro and plan to be in medical school. I already have an iPad Air to take notes on so that I could always share it with my future macbook. That is most likely the reason I bought it.
Ok awesome, thanks for the input! I just bought an iPad the other day too. Was never a fan of iPad and Apple Pencil notes until I downloaded the slides
My Space Grey base model MacBook Air 256GB/8GB/8 Core/7 Core GPU will be used for basic communication tasks and lite web surfing as well as watching videos. I plan to test the 1 extended monitor setup using the Thunderbolt port/USB-C with my MBA and that is about it. I will be installing the Microsoft Office 365 Apps and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC into the MBA. 8GB RAM or 16GB RAM really depends on what apps and programs you will have open.

I am surprised that you did not take advantage of the student discount Apple is offering.
thanks for the input! I did use their education pricing. It brought ram upgrade down from $200 to $180 -_-
 
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anshuvorty

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Honestly, we don't know. Only people who have the closest experience are those who got Mac Mini dev kits, but we are clueless on this as much as you are. I also ordered the 8GB. This is fairly a different beast from what we are used to (Intel Macs or iPads), so only thing to do right now is wait until tomorrow for reviews and user experiences.
This is one set of reviews that I will be highly anticipating!
 

scatopie

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Ordered on night of event USA, M1 MBP 13" 16gb / 256ssd, card was charged, and moved from "Processing" to "Preparing to Ship". Still Arrival date of Nov 25 - Dec 3
 

tharitm

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Nov 9, 2009
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My Mac Mini BTO (512 GB SSD/16 GB RAM) finally moved after being stuck in Hong Kong over the weekend. It also cleared customs and heading to Alaska. It should come tomorrow.
Once it clears customs it should get the import scan in KY (this takes around a day), after that you should get it in a day.
 

saulinpa

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Shows import scan and just got an email from UPS saying my 16/512 Air will arrive tomorrow.
 

kevcube

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You're comparing iOS / iPadOS apps that were written with the limited memory constraints in mind from the beginning to macOS apps that never had that restriction. Apple sold computers with 4GB of memory long after that was practical for most users, they make a lot money on their upgrades. The 8GB will likely be fine for typical consumer usage, but it’s going to be insufficient for more demanding and professional users. There is nothing in the new architecture that is going to make memory significantly less required than it was before.
I'm not comparing apps, just experiences. Users don't need to know when the app they're using is using swap memory, and with the increased SSD speeds swapping may end up just as fast as traditional memory. And in other cases, the unified memory is likely much faster than any previous mac memory bus. Of course bandwidth/throughput is no replacement for capacity, but it surely will contribute to an experience that I doubt will feel limited in any way.

Like I said, web browsing on my iPad with many tabs is always comfortable. I don't care if it has to reload a tab that was dumped out of memory, because everything happens so quickly. And if the tab was dumped, it likely wasn't fresh in MY memory either :p
 

UFallingRock

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Sep 13, 2019
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Hate to say this, but I think it might not show up tomorrow since it just left China. The custom-config Macs are bit delayed.
I ordered a base MBA within 15 minutes of the store opening, for delivery to the Seattle area. Early Sunday morning, I was notified that it had cleared customs and departed Anchorage, and UPS said that I would get on Monday afternoon.

Today, I was notified by USP that it will be delivered on Tuesday after making a trip to Lexington KY.
 
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