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You are so wrong (and are probably going to go to hell for it). Isn't that Leryn Franco, Olympic javelin/model from Paraguay:

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Who knows...I don't bother with the details :p
 
They haven't been able to make Flash work on any Apple system so don't have much hope for this... would love to have flash on my notebook that didn't mean I have to listen to the fans on full
 
They haven't been able to make Flash work on any Apple system so don't have much hope for this... would love to have flash on my notebook that didn't mean I have to listen to the fans on full

I don't understand these posts. :confused: Am I missing something?

I can view Flash on my Mac without any hitch and always have. I have a G4 PowerBook.
 
Flash runs excellent on a Mac, how old is yours?

yeah it runs just fine as long as you don't mind it using up all of your system's resources. hint, the fans shouldn't be spinning quite so much. it's a lousy and inefficient format. the only reason flash should be on the iphone is for media playback when websites have embedded flash videos. thus it could be a standalone app. i have no desire, zero, none, to be able to visit flash designed sites. no flash games. nothing except for flash video or audio in a standalone application. there is no suitable reason for flash to be a part of mobilesafari.
 
yeah it runs just fine as long as you don't mind it using up all of your system's resources. hint, the fans shouldn't be spinning quite so much. it's a lousy and inefficient format. the only reason flash should be on the iphone is for media playback when websites have embedded flash videos. thus it could be a standalone app. i have no desire, zero, none, to be able to visit flash designed sites. no flash games. nothing except for flash video or audio in a standalone application. there is no suitable reason for flash to be a part of mobilesafari.

I have a PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz with 1 GB of RAM (it's about 4 years old). I don't notice any difference when I am running Flash - my fan is always spinning no matter what I am doing. My Mac still never freezes up or crashes even though.
 
I run Firefox with a flash blocker, and don't miss anything (except the fans spinning up and annoying me).

Apple won't allow Flash on the iPhone as long as it uses some one else's public scripting language.

Apple wants web developers to "circumvent" the App store by coding standards compliant CSS/Javascript/H.264/etc. web pages. Where that is insufficient, they are working with standards bodies to extend the standards. The last thing Apple wants is a non-standards compliant API which allows some other company to "embrace and extend" it, or allows some other company to get a head start in building more optimal hardware support for it.

If you want Flash, buy some other cell phone. That might be your only choice.

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I do use Firefox 3 + Flash Block on Leopard, but how can that be possible on the iPhone?

i know it is not possible :(
i just wanted to point out that apple must add those features to safari on iphone so that the user can decide which flash-content he wants to see or not. if that happens, maybe i'll switch back to safari on my mac aswell....
 
its difficult to believe they are teaming again, Adobe hates every schizophrenic decision that Apple takes
also iis difficult to believe that they are putting flash on the current iphone generation:
putting flash in the new a8 cortex is more plausible
flash memory needs grow dynamically as loading objects instances. That isn't a good behavour for a OS that limits every app to +-40MB of physical memory, so 128MB isn't enough unless you have virtual memory
 
Flash

Well, Well, Well! Everyone's all fired up over Flash. I guess we'll have to see how it's implemented. My guess is it will automatically sense when navigating to a Flash based page + an option to turn it off completely.
Guess we'll know in June/July.
 
I think some of you guys are being to extreme about this. Obviously I haven't read all the pages in this thread but I see a very big tendency to think that Flash is only used for crappy ads that destroy a healthy web experience. Although it is true that Flash banner ads are a nuisance to all of us, I can see a lot of things on the web that simply would not have been possible without the Flash platform.

For instance, I am currently working on an ActionScript 3.0 Flash project which is an online mathematics application for students. It's backoffice was made in PHP but the front end simply could not have been possible to build without using Flash as a primary tool.

All I'm saying is, don't say that you want to "get rid of it". There's still a lot of stuff that puts the Flash plugin to real good use. Besides, the Flash platform is nowadays 10x more mature than it used to be 4 years ago. The only problem is that there is no way to get rid of bad Flash developers/designers. I just use FlashBlock on Firefox and I'm set!

However, if it comes to the iPhone (being that I own a 8GB 3G model) I can only hope that we'll be able to turn it off unless we need it.

Some stuff you can now do in Flash:
Flash content is currently on the process of being fully indexed by Google and Yahoo.
SWFAddress (opensource) allows Flash deeplinking and back/forward browser navigation.
SWFObject is a great and open source JavaScript Flash embed method
Google has made a component/class to provide Flash Google Analytics full support.
You can now create Desktop applications (Windows and Mac) inside the Flash / Flex Builder IDE (using the AIR plugin and ActionScript 3.0).
 
Flash / Silverlight will actually make it possible to develop high function web apps that can also be delivered on the iPhone. Believe it or not this is something that large companies actually want to do.

Not everyone finds the prospect of teaching large development organizations Objective-C all that palatable.
 
Flash / Silverlight will actually make it possible to develop high function web apps that can also be delivered on the iPhone. Believe it or not this is something that large companies actually want to do.

Not everyone finds the prospect of teaching large development organizations Objective-C all that palatable.

Flash will, Silverlight is a joke (and thats when its working!) and besides Apple would never allow it on the iPhone.

Personally I dont see anything wrong with AJAX, theres a point when developing a Web App when Flash just becomes too cumbersome. Its excellent for little demonstrations and for streaming videos however. Apple should invest more in making the existing Flash run better on OS X and forget developing a new version.
 
Guys, the core problem is not the the fact that the fans kick up to high speed. The fans kicking up like the space shuttle taking off is a symptom of the fact that Flash steals all the available CPU. Dedicated GPUs do nothing to resolve the problem since Flash is a CPU based process.
 
Not everyone finds the prospect of teaching large development organizations Objective-C all that palatable.

Exactly. Or having to invest in Macs to do so.

Flash will, Silverlight is a joke (and thats when its working!) and besides Apple would never allow it on the iPhone.

I don't know. I think Apple feels safer with Microsoft. They had no problem licensing Microsoft Exchange, even though that just reinforces it as a non-Apple standard.

It'd be interesting if Palm gets Flash and/or Silverlight. Gives it a way to have far better games than with HTML and AJAX (the latter just being for comms, anyway).
 
Haha yeah same for me! My MacBook fans sounds like jet-engines when watching youtube movies, at first i thought something was wrong with the computer but it only happens on flash objects so...

If they release flash for the iPhone a lot of people will get there hands burned that's for sure!

Same, and if I change vids too fast FF crashes.
 
Flash / Silverlight will actually make it possible to develop high function web apps that can also be delivered on the iPhone. Believe it or not this is something that large companies actually want to do.

Apple also wants high function web apps delivered to the iPhone. But they want them to be done using standards compliant APIs, if necessary working with the standards bodies to improve and add to the standards.

But not with stuff proprietary to Adobe or Microsoft. Been there, done that, never again. You can go buy a winmob phone if you really want MS or Adobe alone to control your destiny.

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Why? What's so great about Flash, and especially Flash Lite?

What we have with the iPhone SDK is miles beyond what Flash is capable of, and it can do it without bringing a system down to its knees.

The only "advantage" is all of the Flash hacks could just their existing skills without having to learn anything new to make iPhone "apps".

THE ADVANTAGE IS STREAMING FREE TV TO THE IPHONE!!!!!!!
for Christ's sake, how long do we have to wait?!!!!
 
But not with stuff proprietary to Adobe or Microsoft. Been there, done that, never again. You can go buy a winmob phone if you really want MS or Adobe alone to control your destiny.

So true, Apple can't wait for Adobe to post a bugfix, critical updates or faster code, the only options i see is Adobe opening up there code to Apple or a standalone app that is in no way linked to Apple.
 
Apple also wants high function web apps delivered to the iPhone. But they want them to be done using standards compliant APIs, if necessary working with the standards bodies to improve and add to the standards.

If iPhone Web Apps ran on other browsers, I'd agree. Or even if they'd run under Safari on a Mac without change.

But they often depend on lots of proprietary Apple meta-tags, and are optimized / targeted towards a SINGLE DEVICE WITH HARDCODED SIZE. Not portable at all.
 
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