Apple to buy Adobe?

[KnightWRX]

We are talking about Knight right?

And you're telling me I'm wrong ?

Look at his screenshot and look at the comment for the AAPL source. Tell me that doesn't scream unfounded idle speculation based on a "chatroom like" comment. News is usually fact checked and verified.

Heck, the comment itself seems to be anonymous, based on no real source whatsoever. For all we know, it's a ADBE investor looking for a quick pump so he can dump some stock at a higher price.

 

[Sjhonny]

Remember last quarter sales predictions? On average, blog posters and forum guesses concerning the sales numbers were way closer then what the analysts predicted. This isn't even an analys - it's just a print-screen from an IRC .

And why would Apple be interested in Adobe? Apple doesn't have the know how to magically tune all CS products so they are fully integrated in OS X in a short period of time. Adobe, and the whole CS is way more 'optimized' for Windows then it is for OS X currently (Photoshop became cocoa just last year with CS5, Dreamweaver is still written in Carbon!).
Secondly, Apple is already a direct competitor of Adobe (video-editing) & flash is a dead end according to Apple. So this (hostile) buy-out would result in a discontinuation of half of Adobe's curriculum.
Thirdly. I see a (large) benefit for applications like Photoshop, InDesign, Dreamweaver etc. on the long therm, but only on the mac side. I don't see how (and even why they would) Apple is going to take care of the Windows userbase of CS.

In the end, Apple will end up with hell of a lot of angry people in the creative industry (those using Flash, those using mac for discontinuing Premiere Pro, those using Windows for discontinuing CS al together)

 

[Honbe]

We are talking about Knight right?

Right Knight is it

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And you're telling me I'm wrong ?

Look at his screenshot and look at the comment for the AAPL source. Tell me that doesn't scream unfounded idle speculation based on a "chatroom like" comment. News is usually fact checked and verified.

Heck, the comment itself seems to be anonymous, based on no real source whatsoever. For all we know, it's a ADBE investor looking for a quick pump so he can dump some stock at a higher price.

It has been identified as a rumor at Briefing (which is not a chat nor IRC). Nobody mentioned it is a actual news.
And yes, you buying ADBE will make my day

 

[rhett7660]

And you're telling me I'm wrong ?

Look at his screenshot and look at the comment for the AAPL source. Tell me that doesn't scream unfounded idle speculation based on a "chatroom like" comment. News is usually fact checked and verified.

Heck, the comment itself seems to be anonymous, based on no real source whatsoever. For all we know, it's a ADBE investor looking for a quick pump so he can dump some stock at a higher price.

Nope not at all.... I was merely commenting on the snark response... I completely agree. Which is why I am glad this is staying in this thread and not on page one!

 

[KnightWRX]

It has been identified as a rumor at Briefing (which is not a chat nor IRC). Nobody mentioned it is a actual news.
And yes, you buying ADBE will make my day

For all we know, that quip about "AAPL being a potential buyer ?" might just be you.

What is briefing then ? Who writes on there ? What are there positions ? Maybe you could give us a lot information so that we could all be as amazed as you are from this little tidbit. As it stands, I find from your screenshot it looks awfully like an investor's chatroom with anonymous investors just posting whatever crosses their mind.

I was merely commenting on the snark response...

Like I said before, I have very little tolerance for misinformation. The OP came in here telling us almost as if it was a fact. When asked for sources, it took 2 pages and a mod closing the thread before he decided to post any other than "look it up on Reuters and Bloomberg".

Yes, my level of respect/tolerance was a little low when I got to the point of commenting on his screenshot.

Thank HellHammer for at least including a question mark in the thread topic.

 

[Honbe]

For all we know, that quip about "AAPL being a potential buyer ?" might just be you.

What is briefing then ? Who writes on there ? What are there positions ?

Again, Briefing is a financial news service, similar to Bloomberg or Reuters. Users do not "write" there.
You may want to visist http://www.bloomberg.com or http://www.briefing.com to discover more.
Briefing InPlay Pro is real time news service for traders.

 

[LethalWolfe]

We're on MacRUMORS and we are arguing about about a thread being started based on a rumor? Seriously?


Lethal

 

[Honbe]

I am really sorry if me mentioning, that there are rumors, implicated to someone that that is a fact. It isn't.

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For all we know, that quip about "AAPL being a potential buyer ?" might just be you.

What is briefing then ? Who writes on there ? What are there positions ? Maybe you could give us a lot information so that we could all be as amazed as you are from this little tidbit. As it stands, I find from your screenshot it looks awfully like an investor's chatroom with anonymous investors just posting whatever crosses their mind.



Like I said before, I have very little tolerance for misinformation. The OP came in here telling us almost as if it was a fact. When asked for sources, it took 2 pages and a mod closing the thread before he decided to post any other than "look it up on Reuters and Bloomberg".

Yes, my level of respect/tolerance was a little low when I got to the point of commenting on his screenshot.

Thank HellHammer for at least including a question mark in the thread topic.

Rumor is neither confirmed fact nor misinformation. It has been identified as such from the beginning.
I have very little tolerance for not being able to read or understand.

 

[KnightWRX]

Again, Briefing is a financial news service, similar to Bloomberg or Reuters. Users do not "write" there.
You may want to visist http://www.bloomberg.com or http://www.briefing.com to discover more.
Briefing InPlay Pro is real time news service for traders.

Users do not write there, then who ? Who is it that wrote this quip about AAPL and why should we care ?

What is the source ?

We're on MacRUMORS and we are arguing about about a thread being started based on a rumor? Seriously?

I think the point most of us raise is that there isn't even a source for this rumor. This is not MacGUESSES.

 

[Honbe]

Users do not write there, then who ? Who is it that wrote this quip about AAPL and why should we care ?

What is the source ?

What is this question about? Who writes news (rumors or facts)? And I really do not know why you should care.

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Users do not write there, then who ? Who is it that wrote this quip about AAPL and why should we care ?

What is the source ?



I think the point most of us raise is that there isn't even a source for this rumor. This is not MacGUESSES.

The source of this rumor has been Briefing (as well as Bloomberg and Reuters as this rumor appeared on both as well).

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Users do not write there, then who ? Who is it that wrote this quip about AAPL and why should we care ?

What is the source ?



I think the point most of us raise is that there isn't even a source for this rumor. This is not MacGUESSES.

You speak for most of us now?

 

[Peace]

You do realize one post by a speculator can drive the stock price up or down right ?

It's called manipulating the stock. Happens all the time.

Not to say Adobe,Inc. wouldn't be a good buy for Apple,Inc.

 

[Honbe]

You do realize one post by a speculator can drive the stock price up or down right ?

It's called manipulating the stock. Happens all the time.

Not to say Adobe,Inc. wouldn't be a good buy for Apple,Inc.

Yeah, post about a documented rumor by a well-respected source (Briefing, Bloomberg) on Mac Rumors will drive the stock price up.

 

[Peace]

Yeah, post about a documented rumor by a well-respected source (Briefing, Bloomberg) on Mac Rumors will drive the stock price up.

I was referring to the "speculative" post on the feed you provided.

 

[Honbe]

I was referring to the "speculative" post on the feed you provided.

Oh, I am sorry. Usually Briefing or Bloomberg in that respect are trying to be "non speculative". Therefore they identified the rumor as such.

 

[Peace]

Also a buy by Apple would cause the DOJ to look into it because you would have one company ( Apple,Inc. ) in control of almost 100% of the internet format.

If that were the case then Apple would have to allow Flash to flourish.
Even then a takeover would be greatly scrutinized.


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Since this is pure speculation I'd look in the direction of Yahoo before Adobe.

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[Honbe]

Also a buy by Apple would cause the DOJ to look into it because you would have one company ( Apple,Inc. ) in control of almost 100% of the internet format.

If that were the case then Apple would have to allow Flash to flourish.
Even then a takeover would be greatly scrutinized.


[edit]

Since this is pure speculation I'd look in the direction of Yahoo before Adobe.

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I agree with that. Regulators would have hard time to approve it.
Well another todays RUMOR (as you've touched Yahoo) - Facebook might be looking into that direction. Source - the same.

 

[Consultant]

Briefing doesn't look too legit.

For example, 2/3 of page the search is filled with ads:
http://www.briefing.com/investor/search/search.aspx

Probably a tabloid style publication that posts everything to get page views (and searches).

 

[LethalWolfe]

I think the point most of us raise is that there isn't even a source for this rumor. This is not MacGUESSES.

Because every rumor on MR, either on the front page or in the forums, is vetted? C'mon. How is someone saying they heard the rumor on the exchange floor any different than, say, citing a blog which cites an unnamed employee at AT&T?

Many people for years have been speculating about why Apple should buy Adobe so it's not an idea out of left field. I mean, it's not like the OP said he heard the rumor that Apple was going to buy GM or something ridiculous like that.


Lethal

 

[KnightWRX]

What is this question about? Who writes news (rumors or facts)?

Why do you keep dodging the question ? Who wrote that on Briefing, what is the name of the person who wrote it. Who writes news ? Journalists. They usually put their name up on their articles. Your ADBE AAPL quip has no name on it, who wrote it ? What's his credentials ? What's his history with such rumors ?

Don't dodge, this is important to the discussion. Are we discussing some stock manipulation by a day trade or are we discussing a comment made by a well respected analyst who's usually informed about such things. This makes all the difference in the world in the type of conversations we can hold and how much credibility this rumor has.

Without this information (which you keep failing to provide), we cannot seriously even begin to discuss this rumor. You just basically stated : "An anonymous source claims Apple might buy Adobe". Ok, moving along, nothing to see here.

Briefing doesn't look too legit.

For example, 2/3 of page the search is filled with ads:
http://www.briefing.com/investor/search/search.aspx

Probably a tabloid style publication that posts everything to get page views (and searches).

Exactly my point. We now have 3 pages discussing nothing since the OP keeps failing to provide the source of the information. No, a screenshot with an anonymously made comment is not a source. I can screenshot Macrumors posts saying Apple is going to buy Yahoo and it has as much credibility at this point.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Imagine the Creative Suite redesigned by Apple.

Yea, it would probably be as good as Final Cut Pro X.

 

[harrisondavies]

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My god. I would fear they would destroy amazing products like AE by churning out a new AE that resembles the fiasco that is FCP X, and thereby ruining it.

Innovate, don't ruinate!

 

[MacNut]

Adobe really is the only competition Apple has in the production software market. I don't see why Apple would want them besides shutting them down. It would never pass regulators anyways and even if it did I don't want Apple dumbing down more products. Adobe's photo software is king and you don't want Apple messing with it.

 

[Bernard SG]

It would be very un-Apple-like to buy out a mutlibillion dollar market cap as Adobe.

 

[Honbe]

Why do you keep dodging the question ? Who wrote that on Briefing, what is the name of the person who wrote it. Who writes news ? Journalists. They usually put their name up on their articles. Your ADBE AAPL quip has no name on it, who wrote it ? What's his credentials ? What's his history with such rumors ?

Without this information (which you keep failing to provide), we cannot seriously even begin to discuss this rumor. You just basically stated : "An anonymous source claims Apple might buy Adobe". Ok, moving along, nothing to see here.

So that you are telling me, that you watch ABC evening news where they inform, that there is a rumor about company XXX being about to bring a new product on the market AND they identify the source of this rumor (maybe jealous employee being fired), his/her credentials and his/her history with such rumors? I do not think so.
I have identified my source of this rumor - Bloomberg and Briefing - which for me are respectable financial news services and for you a tabloids. They had identified this as a rumor by themselves at that time. They did not clasify this as a fact, news, analysis or else.
I have also identified this as a rumor from the beginning. If this all for you is "An anonymous source claims Apple might buy Adobe" so be it. Move along. For me it is "Bloomberg and Briefing informed about a rumor ....".

There are tons of threads here based on "some unnamed employee said..." or "a blogger wrote". All are rumors (as mine is), which may or may not became a reality.
I just saw this "information" on a respectable source and thought, it might be of interest to post, as a rumor. There were a lot of discussion at the exchange floor about it at that time as well, which usually is a sign that something might be in the air.

In case you accept nothing but facts you would have to wait what and if anything comes from it. This is a rumor on MacRumors. Source-identified, documented, however still just a rumor.

 

[KnightWRX]

So that you are telling me, that you watch ABC evening news where they inform, that there is a rumor about company XXX being about to bring a new product on the market AND they identify the source of this rumor (maybe jealous employee being fired), his/her credentials and his/her history with such rumors?

If I'm watching ABC news, a Journalist is reporting. He has his sources, his history, his background. He has a name. ABC news is the organization, the Journalist is the reporter.

do not think so.
I have identified my source of this rumor - Bloomberg and Briefing

No, you've identified the organisation, you have yet to name the "Journalist" or "reporter".

There are tons of threads here based on "some unnamed employee said..."

From an organisation, reported by a person. Daringfireball is the blog site, Jon Gruber is the reporter, no matter if the source is anonymous. Jon has a history, we know his predictions and sources are usually pretty good about Apple and his sources, though anonymous, have given him inside info before.

Again, in your case, all we have is an organisation and no reporter whatsoever. My question is who is the reporter. You keep dodging it. Why ?