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At some point they'll make a touch screen laptop, everyone will piss their pants with joy and argue about how they were right to wait as long as they did for some inexplicable reason, and iPad sales will plummet...because that's the real reason they've been waiting on a touch screen for so long.
Idk man, I dont see the point of touchscreen laptops. I had a surface pro in uni for notes and at least the size made sense to write on. The whole OS (windows) wasnt designed for touch though so the only use was pretty much notes and drawing if youre into that. Everything else needed a mouse. Since then ive had many touchscreen laptops at work and I always forget that they are even touchscreen. I wouldnt see myself take notes on one. I've had Ipads and they make much more sense for touch + writing. I have a personal macbook for everything else and I like it this way. 2 in 1s a lot of time end up doing one thing ok and the other thing pretty badly, kinda like using an Ipad as a laptop, the software isnt designed for productivity as much as they try it to be.
 
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Would be great if Apple implemented an upgrade program for iPads in general. My 2018 11” Pro is still going strong, but with a bit less battery capacity.

It’s not due for an upgrade, but I’m excited for the future
 
Idk man, I dont see the point of touchscreen laptops. I had a surface pro in uni for notes and at least the size made sense to write on. The whole OS (windows) wasnt designed for touch though so the only use was pretty much notes and drawing if youre into that. Everything else needed a mouse. Since then ive had many touchscreen laptops at work and I always forget that they are even touchscreen. I wouldnt see myself take notes on one. I've had Ipads and they make much more sense for touch + writing. I have a personal macbook for everything else and I like it this way. 2 in 1s a lot of time end up doing one thing ok and the other thing pretty badly, kinda like using an Ipad as a laptop, the software isnt designed for productivity as much as they try it to be.
As I've said, its personal preference. I like it for certain aspects, and don't for others. Scrolling for one is easier on a touch screen for me, for others it isn't.

My core problem a few years ago was that Apple's solution for my wife was to spend $3500 on an iPad and MBP, where I could buy a SP7 for $900 with a keyboard and pen. For that specific use case, the answer was clear.
 
This Multi billion dollars US company can easily emulate touch screen commands as mouse inputs like what Microsoft did when Surface launched. Apple can make it happen if it really wants to.
 
Oh goody, that must mean iPad pros will finally be coming in a lot of different colors!

In all seriousness, even professional people like colors other than gray.
Silver! :)

Surprises me as it feels closer in weight to my MBP than that. Your dedication to proving me wrong is impressive though.
Heh. I suspect it may be because the 12.9" iPad Pro is smaller, so it's a denser concentration of that weight.
 
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Knowing that Samsung are providing the OLED screens for the smaller iPad Pro, I'm wondering if this iPad will support Dolby Vision? Although the larger iPad Pro is a little less portable, my use of an iPad is mainly for viewing entertainment media when away from home using Plex, my  movie library and whatever American streaming services that I am subscribed to at the time. OLED is the best and picture quality is important to me and I would hate to think that is comprised because Samsung do not pay the Dolby licensing fees. Refer to: https://www.techradar.com/news/dolby-vision-on-samsung-tvs-why-isnt-it-supported .
In the same way LG tv’s doesn’t support DTS audio.

I think the iPad will support Dolby vision. As you mentioned it’s a licensing thing not a hardware limitation. That licensing would fall on Apple not the display manufacturer. Apple TV for example supports Dolby vision.
 
As I've said, its personal preference. I like it for certain aspects, and don't for others. Scrolling for one is easier on a touch screen for me, for others it isn't.

My core problem a few years ago was that Apple's solution for my wife was to spend $3500 on an iPad and MBP, where I could buy a SP7 for $900 with a keyboard and pen. For that specific use case, the answer was clear.
That's true. The main thing with the surface pro for me was the absence of the lap part of laptop. Sorta the way I feel about Ipads with keybords too, you need to put em on a table to use em. I love just sitting on the couch with my macbook and being able to use the keyboard and mousepad
 
At some point they'll make a touch screen laptop, everyone will piss their pants with joy and argue about how they were right to wait as long as they did for some inexplicable reason, and iPad sales will plummet...because that's the real reason they've been waiting on a touch screen for so long.
Touch screens on laptops are more gimmicks than anything else
I have a surface laptop from work and that touch screen gets used 1-2 times a month to maybe scroll when showing something. To actually work on it adds 0 value and would only add to the cost of the device.

Besides
Tablets aren’t going anywhere because
-they’re easier to use so they’re perfect home computers for many people (not work)
- to many people like myself they’re more fun
- they’re cheaper when comparing the base models with base model laptops
- some apps arguably work better on iPads (again non professional work)
 
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Been dragging out the life of my 10.5" iPad Pro because after moving to OLED with the iPhone X, I wasn't going to upgrade my iPad until they offered OLED. I find miniLED blooming more distracting than just a persistent backlight. I'm hyped for these models. Just hope the pricing is sane.
 
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That's true. The main thing with the surface pro for me was the absence of the lap part of laptop. Sorta the way I feel about Ipads with keybords too, you need to put em on a table to use em. I love just sitting on the couch with my macbook and being able to use the keyboard and mousepad
The SL and SB/SLS line fix much of that.

I guess I wasn't aware of how pissed my comments that some people like touch screens would make some here.
 
Release the new iPad Pro and new Apple Pencil together. I hope the front camera is still in portrait orientation. Keyboards are for zombies.
 
Touch screens on laptops are more gimmicks than anything else
I have a surface laptop from work and that touch screen gets used 1-2 times a month to maybe scroll when showing something. To actually work on it adds 0 value and would only add to the cost of the device.

Besides
Tablets aren’t going anywhere because
-they’re easier to use so they’re perfect home computers for many people (not work)
- to many people like myself they’re more fun
- they’re cheaper when comparing the base models with base model laptops
- some apps arguably work better on iPads (again non professional work)
I don't think a touch screen adds much, but I also don't think an iPad Pro costs less than a MBA for example.
 
If your work consists entirely of reading and writing documents, and it sounds like portability is very important, you might actually be fine with the iPad. But if you think you ever might want a real web browser or something like that, you might want the Mac. And even though you're using the iPad with keyboard, the Mac keyboard is *far* better.

For me the answer is Mac 100% always. iPad is way too limited and is basically just a TV and book reader for me at this point. That may not be true for you.

I don't think the MacBook Pro is any less portable than an iPad Pro with keyboard. I have both and the MBP is actually more portable in my opinion. Feels a lot more sturdy when closed up. Unless you really want to be able to take that keyboard off, the extra weight is worth it. And don't forget about the trackpad.
It's funny I get a ton of productivity work done with my old ass iPad Pro with external keyboard and pencil. It's great with Office 365 and Adobe Apps, plus some design apps I use. My MBP does most of my A/V related work.
 
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Been dragging out the life of my 10.5" iPad Pro because after moving to OLED with the iPhone X, I wasn't going to upgrade my iPad until they offered OLED. I find miniLED blooming more distracting than just a persistent backlight. I'm hyped for these models. Just hope the pricing is sane.
Yep. I toughed it out too with the 10.5" iPad Pro. And I'm toughing it out even more now that I'm using an iPad Air 2 since I've given away my 10.5", in anticipation of the new OLED iPad Pro 11.x" release.

I didn't want to get another LCD tablet, and I didn't want to get go mini-LED LCD because it still has the same drawbacks along with potentially extra blooming.

Plus, the keyboards will get updated for these new models, and likely will remain compatible with the next few models too. The same is likely true for the Pencil too, although I probably won't get a Pencil this time around.
 
This is where I found myself before realizing what I actually had was a top heavy pseudo laptop with a minuscule trackpad, no function keys and half an operating system 🤔
Funny, there’s like a million more native apps on the iPad. On the Mac, almost everything is relegated to a browser tab. I’ve stopped using Macs because the software (“app”) experience is just so much better on the iPad.
 
Imagine the sales if it ran OS X
And even beyond the initial spike in sales, think about the massive buzz an announcement like that would generate. I honestly don't think it's hyperbole to say that would be a bigger deal than the Vision Pro. I can see all the tech news sites and social media headlines now:
  • "Apple is finally letting you use your laptop-priced iPad as a REAL computer"
  • "After years of pretentiously asking the unnecessarily philosophical question 'What is a computer?' Apple has the answer and, unsurprisingly, it's anything that doesn't run a watered-down mobile OS"
  • "No longer will you have to wonder what your iPad is good for besides watching Netflix and being just another device to use for texting when you don't have your iPhone nearby, because now the tablet you bought for the price of a computer will actually let you do computer things on it!"
  • "Good news! The anxious days of thinking to yourself 'Oof is this doable on an iPad or do I need to go get my MacBook...' are over, because now it can be either"
 
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