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8.5 million doesn't sound right. In 2022, Apple sold 16.3 million 12.9" iPad Pros.
16.3 million 12.9! Half as many as the number of Macs sold per year? No wonder we have so many arrogant comments on iPadOS. I think iPad Air 12.9 will take sales from iPad Pro 12.9.
 
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I’m curious to see what changes, beyond an OLED screen, Apple applies to the iPad Pros. I’ve been doing half my work on my M1 12.9” iPP and there are really just two things I’d like to see changed/updated. One is battery life, which is the most needed update. When traveling, I always have to be mindful of battery life, which just shouldn’t be the case.

The other, far less important, is the shift from portrait to landscape for the FaceTime camera. It’s so bad trying to use it for Zoom calls that I find myself either pulling the iPP off the Magic Keyboard and resting it in portrait mode, or just using my other work PC laptop for Zoom calls.
 
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It's funny I get a ton of productivity work done with my old ass iPad Pro with external keyboard and pencil. It's great with Office 365 and Adobe Apps, plus some design apps I use. My MBP does most of my A/V related work.

It may just be that I grew up with desktop computers and have never found touch devices compelling. And I find the interface really limiting compared to a full desktop experience. On the other hand I see kids handle iPads easily and struggle with controlling a mouse.

For design the iPad does seem really useful. Direct input, big color accurate high density high refresh rate display. If you're working on one document at a time it works fine. I have four spaces open right now with sets of applications in each, and none of those applications work well on an iPad.

I don't think one can replace the other and I hope Apple's marketing and production aligns around that concept. They're just fundamentally good at different things. They need to lean in to those differences where it makes sense.
 
That volume of orders would indicate pretty good confidence over sales. Suggesting the rumours of significant price increases (some say almost doubling) are false.
 
Knowing that Samsung are providing the OLED screens for the smaller iPad Pro, I'm wondering if this iPad will support Dolby Vision? Although the larger iPad Pro is a little less portable, my use of an iPad is mainly for viewing entertainment media when away from home using Plex, my  movie library and whatever American streaming services that I am subscribed to at the time. OLED is the best and picture quality is important to me and I would hate to think that is comprised because Samsung do not pay the Dolby licensing fees. Refer to: https://www.techradar.com/news/dolby-vision-on-samsung-tvs-why-isnt-it-supported .
Samsung makes the QD-OLED panel used by Sony in its flagship TV and it definitely supports Dolby. When Samsung puts the same panel in its own flagship QD-OLED (the S95 series) it magically doesn’t support Dolby anymore. It’s about licensing fees.
 
With me arguing it’s ridiculous they have waited this long for OLED, and others claiming to me it’s a special new OLED design, I await these iPads to see what makes them so special… even more so if they hike the price. iPhone OLED is great. So I’m not sure what this will offer over that.
 
These sound quite nice, but my 11 inch M2 iPad Pro should last for sometime. Also, since getting a Vision Pro, which I love, I hardly use my iPad or my 14 inch M1 MacBook Pro unless going to a coffeehouse or something.
 
OMG I got an LG made OLED iPad Pro the colors in the Samsung OLED panels are much brighter. I can see the Threads headlines Now.
Not touching an OLED iPad Pro until the 3rd batch or never.
 
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Eagerly waiting to see the new OLED iPad along with the new Apple Pencil
 
Seems Apple had design requirements in this case (+ price, of course). Quoting from the same source as this article:

Usual OLED panels for typical smartphones cost anywhere from $50 to $60, while OLED panels for the 11-inch iPad Pro could be priced around $280 to $290. The pricing of the OLED panel for a 13-inch iPad Pro could be $380-$390. This is because of the larger screen size and the tandem OLED panel technology that Apple has opted for. This new technology, which uses two layers of OLED stacked on top of each other, will greatly improve the brightness and reliability of OLED panels. The tandem structure OLED panel from LG Display reportedly improves the lifetime of the panel by 4x, while the efficiency improves by 1.5x-2x compared to OLED with a single-layer structure.

Due to this price increase, the pricing of the iPad Pro is also expected to be higher. Some reports claim that the newer-generation 11-inch iPad Pros will be priced $100-$150 higher than current-generation iPad Pro models. The 13-inch iPad Pro that is expected to be launched this year could be $150-$200 pricier than 13-inch iPad Pros with Mini-LED screens.
You brainless donkey, stop pretending You know something about the displays and their respective cost to make them. Stupid enough to differ the cost increase between $380 - $390. Lucky for the consumers, that the difference between the price leap is not somewhere between $380 - $3090. But only $10 difference. What about the M3 processor upgrade? Are we going to see another $380-$390 increase for the processor? You must be some stupid russian With screen name ipay.

how did you arrive at that price range Mr. Donkey? Used tape measure to measure the screen size of the iphone, then measured the screen size of ipad pro then multiplied by the $60 to arrive at $390? You’re a limping loser.
 
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As a teacher, the combination of an iPad with macOS would be perfect in class. Therefore, something like the Surface.
I love my MacBook for preparing the worksheets, the data management in Finder, listening comprehension etc. The iPad is only used for filling in the worksheet during class in GoodNotes and OneNote. The restricted and less usable Word, Excel, PowerPoint Versions, the date/file management on the iPad etc. is a bummer in class. It would be a huge help to have macOS on iPad. So far I use the 2017 iPad and will try one of the newer iPad Pros soon, but hope there will be a better work system.
 
At some point they'll make a touch screen laptop, everyone will piss their pants with joy and argue about how they were right to wait as long as they did for some inexplicable reason, and iPad sales will plummet...because that's the real reason they've been waiting on a touch screen for so long.
Idk. A laptop with a touchscreen, and a tablet are completely different experiences.
Unless it's something like M$ Surface.
Of course they'd have to pull it off better than windows. I.e. macOS apps working just as well with touch as ipad apps do, but without all the limitations of iOS.
 
Unless the new iPad uses Mac OS when docked into the keyboard, then switches to iPad OS when the keyboard is folded away or removed, I have no interest in updating either my iPad Pro or buying a klugy keyboard.

The screen I have is fine for the tablet as is...
That's a good idea, except you know they'd lock it behind some proprietary nonsense. Like macOS only unlocks if you buy the new $400 keyboard! Or a $300 dock to use with the $2k display.
Logi, zagg, Bluetooth, none of those will allow you to use the full OS, because of very very good reasons (read: profit)
 
I don't like this move especially since OLED is still not a great option for professional uses and if the rumor is true about the price, it's gonna be messed up.
What professional uses? Color accuracy, refresh rate, and response time are great. Burn-in isn't really an issue like in the old days.
 
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What professional uses? Color accuracy, refresh rate, and response time are great. Burn-in isn't really an issue like in the old days.
lol, burn-in is still an issue and there aren't many professional grade OLED display that Mac can use. Beside, the peak brightness is one of the problem as well. If you think that OLED's burn-in is the old days, that's because there is no such thing and both smartphone and TV does NOT represent the OLED itself. Even they suffer burn-in.
 
lol, burn-in is still an issue and there aren't many professional grade OLED display that Mac can use. Beside, the peak brightness is one of the problem as well. If you think that OLED's burn-in is the old days, that's because there is no such thing and both smartphone and TV does NOT represent the OLED itself. Even they suffer burn-in.

Is it really that bad though? I had a LG CX that I used for about 3 years as a PC monitor, 5-7 days per week it would be on and I would have the windows taskbar on the bottom, and a browser bar on the top for at least 6-10 hours per day, some days even more, with plenty of days I forgot to turn it off and it also sat there all night. I even disabled many of the burn-in protections via the service menu because they were annoying (such as auto dimming, ASBL/TPC/GSR etc). 3 years later and zero burn-in, I mean absolutely zero burn-in, and I was prepared to have massive burn-in and even purchased the aftermarket warranty with that belief. I have to say I'm VERY impressed with the LG OLEDs, and that was one which was released 4 years ago, it's my understanding that burn-in protection has significantly advanced in the past few years. I've since upgraded to a C3 and am still happy, although unfortunately you can't disable the protections via the service menu anymore.
 
Is it really that bad though? I had a LG CX that I used for about 3 years as a PC monitor, 5-7 days per week it would be on and I would have the windows taskbar on the bottom, and a browser bar on the top for at least 6-10 hours per day, some days even more, with plenty of days I forgot to turn it off and it also sat there all night. I even disabled many of the burn-in protections via the service menu because they were annoying (such as auto dimming, ASBL/TPC/GSR etc). 3 years later and zero burn-in, I mean absolutely zero burn-in, and I was prepared to have massive burn-in and even purchased the aftermarket warranty with that belief. I have to say I'm VERY impressed with the LG OLEDs, and that was one which was released 4 years ago, it's my understanding that burn-in protection has significantly advanced in the past few years. I've since upgraded to a C3 and am still happy, although unfortunately you can't disable the protections via the service menu anymore.
Yes and your examples dont work cause none of them are professional grades that Mac/iPad would use which is far from it. You need to consider color accuracy, professional panel, peak brightness, and more which doesn't work with what you mentioned. Beside, OLED TV does NOT have high pixel density so not a good example and so far, there are no 11~32 inch display with high pixel density to compare with.

Tell me if there are any professional grade OLED monitor between 11~32 inch with 4~5K with high peak brightness? Literally none and even then, it suffers from burn-in due to high brightness and pixel density.
 
Tell me if there are any professional grade OLED monitor between 11~32 inch with 4~5K with high peak brightness? Literally none and even then, it suffers from burn-in due to high brightness and pixel density.
For several years, Sony’s flagship professional video editing monitor was a 30” OLED. It had a peak brightness at 1000 nits and was true 4K, not 3840x2160p (which is not true 4K). Unfortunately, it cost ~US$30000.

Interestingly, for those smaller video editing outfits who could not afford to spend 5 figures on a monitor, they would buy an LG OLED TV, and professionally calibrate it for such use. Peak brightness was not 1000 nits though.

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Here we go, the Sony BVM-X300:



At that time Sony mastered movies to 1000 nits, and that OLED with their absolute top-of-the-line, hence that crazy $30000 price point. The OLEDs are no longer the top, since I believe Sony has moved onto 4000 nits mastering which cannot be achieved for OLED. However, they still sell several professional broadcast reference OLED 4K monitors, including for example the 24.5" BVM-E251 which "only" costs $10595.
 
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Yes and your examples dont work cause none of them are professional grades that Mac/iPad would use which is far from it. You need to consider color accuracy, professional panel, peak brightness, and more which doesn't work with what you mentioned. Beside, OLED TV does NOT have high pixel density so not a good example and so far, there are no 11~32 inch display with high pixel density to compare with.

Tell me if there are any professional grade OLED monitor between 11~32 inch with 4~5K with high peak brightness? Literally none and even then, it suffers from burn-in due to high brightness and pixel density.
I run into the brightness issue with my laptop, because it's reflective panel and I use in various settings and near windows etc.
But you keep going in about "professional" use, in which case you'd likely be at a desk and have more control over the ambient light.
Unless your doing mobile photo shoots and need immediate work on a screen or something... I don't see how it's an issue.
My laptop OLED doesn't get super bright, but my Samsung tablet OLED does, and it's easy to use anywhere except out in the sun. Apple's will be at least good, and likely better.
 
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I run into the brightness issue with my laptop, because it's reflective panel and I use in various settings and near windows etc.
But you keep going in about "professional" use, in which case you'd likely be at a desk and have more control over the ambient light.
Unless your doing mobile photo shoots and need immediate work on a screen or something... I don't see how it's an issue.
My laptop OLED doesn't get super bright, but my Samsung tablet OLED does, and it's easy to use anywhere except out in the sun. Apple's will be at least good, and likely better.
Just tell me if you can find OLED professional displays with high peak brightness higher than 1000 nit, 4/5K resolution, and wide color gamut in 11~32 inch display. How come people cant really bring anything to support their claim without proofs. You even said that your laptop is not bright.

Beside, maintaining the brightness with OLED is another issue, keep uniformity, and reduce power consumption are another issues of OLED.

This is why there aren't any professional grade OLED with high specs and not even well being used.
 
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