They should have said "immersive" which it is. Not "natural" which it isn't.
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Apple TV+ 'Monsterverse' Show Filming in 3D for Vision Pro Viewing
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So are all of those bunny slope skiers sad to you too? They will never experience extreme terrain but they can through VR. And they can even talk to each other while they are doing it if they want. That's not sad.
Why does something relatively new and different have to be doom but much older patterns and behaviors somehow weren't doom even though they were thought to be at the time? At one time, the Industrial Revolution, agricultural revolution, automobile revolution, telephone revolution, cinema, TV, cable TV, satellite, internet, etc. were all harbingers of doom. The same kid that has their head buried in a smartphone all day also has the best chance of saving the planet from doom...until the next doomsday comes along.
Looks like Apple will have more 3D shows ready before Vision Pro launches.
It can be more visually natural because you don't have to worry about things like crosstalk and alternating frames for each eye.
And real-time rendered VR content looks much more natural than pre-rendered stereoscopic content. Real time 3D in VR never looks like a gimmick, because it just looks like your natural perspective in the real world.
Could you imagine a 'follow the ball' perspective, where your POV is the player in control of the ball, able to look around and see who's around them to pass to? This really is up to the rights holders to implement the tracking technology, but it would be absolutely amazing.
For Is all who haven’t tried the headset - those that have have been pretty unanimous - their 3D content is amongst the best they’ve seen, and the 3D footage looked great.
You might balk at a 3D avatar but pick any sport you like or your favorite photos and videos - wouldn’t they be amazing to have both in regular 2D but also experience spatially?
You might balk at a 3D avatar but pick any sport you like or your favorite photos and videos - wouldn’t they be amazing to have both in regular 2D but also experience spatially?
Well many years ago here in the UK Sky TV tried 3D sports — Rugby, Football, Tennis… you name it, they set up a **** load of cameras and tech and… well…
It didn't go anywhere.
Here's a link to way back then when it was the next great thing.
Alas, I think not.
No $1.5 million canapés for you! No sea breeze. No Krug to quaff. No Polynesian sun on your face…
You'll just be sitting on your sofa munching on popcorn fanning away your dog's farts while watching a "3D" movie about someone else's experiences.
But I guess if it floats your boat…? 🙂
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Just before something big happens have someone on the street point and say, "Look by the bridge!"
Sigh. The Monarch Monsterverse had massively diminishing returns after the first Godzilla movie. Kong: Skull Island was promising but ultimately forgettable. The last 2 Godzilla movies were mediocre, especially the most recent one, Kong vs Godzilla.
This is not at all an inspiring development re: content. Hopefully, there will be much better original content than this.
This is not at all an inspiring development re: content. Hopefully, there will be much better original content than this.
Lol. No. The bunny slope skiers are actually skiing! Not sitting on their butts on the couch pretending VR in any way resembles the real experience. At least the bunny slope skiers are out there, learning, improving and maybe one day will actually ski the real extreme terrain. It’s absolutely laughable to compare some fake VR experience to the real thing.
No argument. I get that it’s entertaining. But it’s nothing like the real thing. I’m sure we can agree on that.
it would be the most immersive sports viewing experience, honestly could get me to buy a reality pro. heck my wife would want one too.
If you take canon into account, the outcome is obvious. One shrugged off an assault by a tanks battalion and a fighter squadron like it was nothing. The other was cut down by biplanes (1933, 2005) or helicopters and flamethrowers (1976). If machine gun fire is enough to kill ya, y'all ain't got a snowballs chance against Godzilla's atomic breath.
Kong vs Zilla (the 1998 US version of Godzilla), that would be closer match up.
No drowning by accident.
No killed in blizzard.
No fall to the death.
Yes, definitely. I am simply not a risk taker man who loves to enjoy new experience in life without spending millions of dollars.
Well, I did mention that. 😆
I noted how 3D TVs were not portable, unlike the Vision Pro. 👍
I love 3D tv and hate that they lost popularity. I still have my 3d Plasma and avatar 3d blu ray
Yes, I still have my 3D glasses and the two movies I bought to watch with them with…
…somewhere…
While I don't plan to shell out 3.5k on this anytime soon, I'd go to 'Vision Pro' cinema to see such immersive movie.
All of Apple One for a least a year, seriously. Apple is probably going to be the only one with apps designed for it for a while, might as well give the people that spent so much money on the first generation some content.
On the other hand Apple probably figures that people who will spend $3500 on this will spend 1% of that per month for content.
wish:
feel or express a strong desire or hope for something that is not easily attainable; want something that cannot or probably will not happen.
by that definition, I don't wish for those things you mention.
I don't wish for a box on the face either.
I have screens. And I don't think the Vision Pro can replace them. I can't play Switch with my kids on the Vision Pro. So I need a tv. I can't watch movies with the wife and kid on the Vision Pro so I need a tv. I don't really think wearing a box on the face will improve my tv viewing experience either because I will have a box on the face.
I'm on the computer too much every day so I don't see a headset being comfortable. So I can't get rid of my Mac and monitor. And I don't see the gain actually from using the Vision Pro as a Mac either. I have virtual desktops on my 1 24" monitor. Good enough for me. I use my Mac when I want to have a full keyboard and mouse. A headset isn't going to gain me anything.
So I don't see the utility. I see the novelty.
utlity
the state of being useful, profitable, or beneficial.
novelty
the quality of being new, original, or unusual.
Sounds like it would be right up my alley, coming from someone who doesn't like to travel at all. I haven't visited a cinema in ages, and am someone who is content to wait for these shows to come to streaming. Like I am sure the Northern Lights would be a marvel to view in person, but I am not going to fly 12 hours just for it.
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Best I can tell, there is ZERO intent of Vpro to "replace." It adds screens- virtual ones- any size, any shape, any quantity to the mix. When one wants a group watching/playing experience, they can still use the (physical) screens they already have. Play Switch with the kids on the TV because that's the best screen for that activity. Watch movies with the family on the TV because that's the best screen for that activity. In the office, gather around the TV, projector or someone's desktop monitor to collaborate together because you all happen to be at the same location and that is the best way.
Apple Inc being Apple Inc probably does NOT want anyone consolidating down from owning Macs, iPads and iPhones even if Vpro could conceptually replace them all. They want this to be an addition for some added function, like iPad vs. iPhone and Watch vs. iPhone and CarPlay vs. iPhone, etc. They want the revenue of selling EVERYTHING to us even if any one thing could stand in for the rest. Why? 💰💰💰
As to no benefit vs. your one physical monitor, you can't take that one monitor on the road with you (easily). It can't easily be anywhere you happen to be. It is not a laptop or laptop screen. If you never travel anywhere where you need a computer, that's no problem. But if you do travel and need a computer with you bigger than iPhone/iPad, a laptop becomes the current "solution." Against the productive space of your desktop monitor, laptop screens are puny. For me, I find the shift from 40" UW to 16" MB a big detriment to productivity on the road. Vpro MAY be a way to have that 40" or your 24" wherever I/you go, instead of settling for 16" or 10" or 8" or 6".
The demo shows two ways to use a full keyboard & mouse anywhere you are with Vpro... be that Magic Keyboard + Mouse or MB keyboard. While there are ways to interact with hand motions and virtual keyboards too, Apple clearly illustrated using physical input devices and even being able to see one's own hands on those devices while also seeing output on virtual screens.
As to "useful, profitable and beneficial": EVERY kind of screen-based tech we currently use seems to be trying to find a way to grow screen RE. Why is foldable phones a thing? Why are there also foldable laptop screens? Why are companies working on rollable screens? Why isn't all iMac people happy with 24" instead of 27"? Why was the 15" Air so desirable when the 13" is the SAME computer and costs less?
More screen RE is quite useful. You likely have a 24" monitor instead of a smaller one because 24" is more useful to you than 20" or 16" or 12" or just using an iPad or iPhone screen. Why did you pay up for 24" instead of saving money on a smaller screen? When that one conks, will you replace it with another 24" or will you opt to buy more screen RE in something bigger? If the latter, why? Why not go smaller?
More screen RE can be more profitable because more screen RE typically allows people to spread things out and get their work done more quickly. Productivity goes up when one can spend more time doing their profit-seeking work and less time shifting on-screen stuff around a limited workspace. Why does Apple promote the number of screens some Macs can use as displays at the same time. Because some people want multiple screens. Why? Because they want the added space to do whatever they do.
More screen RE can be more beneficial because that spread lets us more effectively work with our computers. That's why I chose to pay Apple Studio Display prices for a 40" UW screen. The leap in productivity vs. my former iMac 27" screen is HUGE. If I could somehow roll or fold it into a portable, laptop-like package, that thing would be my road screen too. But physical screens aren't like that. We carry a small screen in a laptop or less because bigger screens at about 20" and above are simply impractical to carry everywhere to have at the ready. Apple could likely make you a 24" MB, but it would be HEAVY and HUGE and likely impractical as a laptop.
Vpro offers a way for you to have that 24" (and me that 40" UW) screen wherever you/I happen to be... or TWO+ of them if it would serve some purpose. And in those situations where it is just you, you can have ANY size TV/movie screen, iPad screen, iPhone screen too. Does that mean you can't have a TV, iPad, iPhone, etc as well? Of course not! But it does mean that the big TV could be on the airplane with you, or in the hotel, etc. I can only see great utility in that... FINALLY... a way to have big screens that doesn't require so much more aluminum, hinges, etc to accomplish the same with physical screens in mobile devices.
It's OK for you to see no practical use for it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But just because you don't see anything here, doesn't mean anyone else can't too. More to much more screen RE anywhere one happens to be has tremendous utility for those who can ever feel any wish for it... especially if it doesn't come with trying to carry around big screen TVs or 20"-40"+ monitors, etc.
Every thread on this site that is basically discussing bigger screen anything has a new kind of potential solution "coming next year." And whether that is bigger screen iPhone or biggest screen movie screen, this solution weighs the same and takes up the same amount of physical space to deliver ANY size and any number of screens in a pretty portable package that could go with us as easily as a laptop goes with us now. Those already lugging around a bag to have their laptop or iPad with them at all times will have a new option... one that "shatters" that hard boundary of physical screen RE in traditional computing devices.
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