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Can Apple TV play movies from an external HD that is hooked up to an Airport Extreme Base Station if no computer is on (no iTunes open)??

Thanks
 
Clunky Menus

Is it just me, or is the new menu system clunkier than the old one.

It appears to mix styles, between the traditional ATV menus for lower levels and then this new overlaid top level menu. I find the transition quite jarring.

Lots of goodness in this release:

1) Merged synced and streamed content, no more Source selection
2) Improved decoding performance
3) Fast Forward and Rewind much better, but not perfect still - but that's hard with streaming B frames
4) Better reaction to button presses, fewer hangs with no response whilst rewinding/pausing etc

And the not so good things:

1) Menus a bit odd to use
2) Still no playlists for movies. It takes *ages* to scroll through my library, and I can never find what I want.
3) Trailers are still very slow in New Zealand
4) The TV episodes are all over the place - not sorted properly - maybe I need to revise my tagging
FYI. Both my ATVs took 40mins to download the update.

Cheers, Ed.
 
Nice to hear that the new Apple TV has 1080p output.

But what's the point, if it can still only play back 720p content?

How good is the upscaling on this $200 device? Will it be better than the internal upscaler in my $2000 TV?

(I don't have a $2000 TV. But many of you do. The question stands. Do you let the Apple TV, or your LCD/plasma, do the upscaling?)

Can the Apple TV hardware support 1080p playback? Is this something we can expect to see in a future software update? Is the UI natively 1080p, even if the content isn't? (e.g. viewing movie trailer posters, album artwork) Do photos display at 1080p?

Now, I haven't used the 1080p mode, but I have been using my apple tv for over 6 months watching 480p/720p content. I have a set that does 1080i and instead of making the TV prescale, i make the apple tv do it. I am quite shocked at the quality. Id say use the apple tv to upscale its own content, as the interface will be crisper. It has a video processor designed to perform the operation any. Oh, and my photos do show up in 1080i on the 1080i set. Im excited now to plug this into the 1080p and see how does now.

My theory is that the frame buffer inside the apple tv has not changed, and it is probably native 1080p anyway...its just that the HDMI output was just in an interlacing mode. No performance hit likely.

Unless your TV is a CRT, then it isn't actually "displaying" 1080i. Most 720p/1080i sets have a physical resolution of either 720 or 768. Any 1080i signal you feed it will be downconverted to fit in that dimension. For this reason, feeding it a 1080i signal is pretty pointless. If your set is a true 720 resolution, stick with 720p. If your set is 768, then giving it a 1080i signal will yield *slightly* better results (48 lines of resolution better, if you're being exact).

Let the flaming begin.

In the last 6 months, a lot of 1080p LCD and plasma models have been dumped on the market....even in the $1000-$2000 and sub $1000 markets. I would suggest anyone asking if they should use the "1080i/p" mode to take a look at their native resolution.

Most 1080p LCD and 1080p plasmas will overly boast about their ability to handle the full 1920x1080 resolution in a progressive mode.
 
I know its allways been the case that even if you lived in Canada, you could buy a gift card in the US and set up an american account to buy movies with. Can anyone confirm if this still works with :apple:tv?

I'm going to be in Florida this weekend to get away from the snow for a few days, and if this trick still works then i'll pick up an itunes gift card and an :apple:tv for the basement projector (no cable down there, and rogers said it would be $400 to put it in).
 
Music Video Playlists would be awesome, a lot of people I know who have seen my :apple:TV say that it is the one thing that would tip them over the edge to buying one.
Yeah it's actually kept me from buying all this time.

I like to play movies, cartoons, and music videos continuously using a 5-disc carousel. I want the AppleTV to replace that functionality and have access to my entire video library to choose from. iTunes can do it. Ipods can do it (with music). Seems like basic functionality (Play All, Repeat, Shuffle).
 
Thanks for manual synch answer

Thanks for answering my manual synch, question, Kevin.

Blerg. Well, I have a big old portable hd and can move my increasingly enormous iTunes library there, I suppose, but I am extraordinarily lazy.

I wonder if I got a TimeCapsule if I could just leave it there.
 
The way to do it using HB is to encode it as an AVI/264/AC3 followed by opening it in Quicktime Pro and doing a Save As. This will save it as a .mov/ac3 file without having to re-encode it etc. It will simply change the container. Make sure you have Perian 1.0 installed. Not 1.1. For some reason Perian 1.1 will not play AVI .264 files. I actually found a Perian 1.1 that does support it which you can find in the Perian forum off their website.

That's good news if it's really that simple.

Hopefully the HB guys will add the functionality to go straight to MOV. Worst case, someone can probably create a simple droplet app/script to do it.
 
On their forums, someone does mention being able to take a H.264 video and AC3 audio stream into Quicktime Pro, exporting to .mov and having it work.

Yeah, I'm going to basically do 2 rips and merge them for my 800+ DVD collection ;)

But might try it as an experiment...
 
Apple TV Question...

I should know this, having worked for Apple, but I never got into the Apple TV so I never cared to ask questions like this...

If I RIP DVD's into my Mac...add them to iTunes so they'll transfer to Apple TV, how do I keep from filling up my MacBook hard drive? If I keep them on an external hard drive where iTunes can see them...what happens when I unplug the external hard drive to move around the house...will it see that the content is no longer accessible in iTunes and delete it from Apple TV? I'm assuming the same goes for my music, which I keep on an external hard drive?
 
The way to do it using HB is to encode it as an AVI/264/AC3 followed by opening it in Quicktime Pro and doing a Save As. This will save it as a .mov/ac3 file without having to re-encode it etc. It will simply change the container. Make sure you have Perian 1.0 installed. Not 1.1. For some reason Perian 1.1 will not play AVI .264 files. I actually found a Perian 1.1 that does support it which you can find in the Perian forum off their website.

I believe they were talking about doing it without the need for Perian.
 
Can Apple TV play movies from an external HD that is hooked up to an Airport Extreme Base Station if no computer is on (no iTunes open)??

Thanks

No iTunes must be running. People have had very limited success streaming off of USB Drives connected to an Airport - I dont recommend it (have not tried yet with TakeTwo... but doubtful as the problem is with network congestion - even on N networks - not the AppleTV)
 
Yeah right. Given Apple's hard and fast rule about employees posting on rumor message boards, I have a very hard time believing that someone from the ":apple:TV team" is posting on here telling us all about the work he did on it. He's just a guy who knows a lot about the :apple:TV, for whatever reason. And besides, Apple wouldn't hire someone who can't spell 'hobby.' ;)

My apologies to Kevin, I was just informed that he does in fact work for Apple. Keep up the good work then! I'm planning on getting an :apple:TV as soon as I get a new television.
 
You might notice I have not been falling over myself complaining about the late arrival of the update. I guess I'm just used to Apple trying to get one thing right (perfection) rather than doing fifteen things poorly in the same time (multitasking).

-- snipped for space

Kevin/imlucid... thanks.

+1

Being is development, I appreciate the hard work, too.
 
can't use streamed music for slide shows anymore.. :-(

i like the update for the most part.. but the things I don't care for:

1. Now, everytime you want to view/listen to streamed content from a computer.. you have to select it in each separate category.. kind of inconvenient.. I liked being able to select your streamed computer.. and then all the content would be available to stream..

2. You can't use streamed music for your photo slide shows anymore.. the music has to reside on your Apple TV.. That wasn't the case before.. you could select music from a streamed music library for your photo slide shows..
 
At least so far, Handbrake rips to H264 with 6 channel AAC are not outputting as Dolby Digital (but still going out as Pro logic- just as before the update). Still working with this, but it looks like all that ripping (& hoping) that 6 channel AAC would magically be converted to Dolby Digital might have been a waste.

Another poster says the Handbrake team is talking about working backward to figure out how the Dolby Digital is encoded, probably resulting in a new preset to be able to do it with DVDs. If true, that means yet another round of re-ripping DVD collections to end up with Dolby 5.1.
 
Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh!

The one day I don't work from home and it happens!

I can't wait to get home tonight!
 
Starting from Scratch

I have the advantage of starting from scratch. I'm going to buy an AppleTV and a new TV. Any TV recommendations? Can all 1080P TVs also play at 720p and if so do they display 720p as well as a true 720p? I'm considering a 1080p because I may add a PS3 to the mix. Thank you.
 
I should know this, having worked for Apple, but I never got into the Apple TV so I never cared to ask questions like this...

If I RIP DVD's into my Mac...add them to iTunes so they'll transfer to Apple TV, how do I keep from filling up my MacBook hard drive? If I keep them on an external hard drive where iTunes can see them...what happens when I unplug the external hard drive to move around the house...will it see that the content is no longer accessible in iTunes and delete it from Apple TV? I'm assuming the same goes for my music, which I keep on an external hard drive?

Anything not sync'ed to the apple TV will disappear from streaming. I am sure itunes would complain if its content folder disappeared.

I have a desktop that i leave on 24/7 for stuff like this, as well as some 500GB USB drive which contains all of my itunes/dvd/etc content.
 
2.5 hours until work is over... I am completely appletized now! Never thought I would say this a few years ago, but my phone is Apple, my computer is Apple, my CD collection is on iTunes and ran on apple, and now I will go home and watch TV through an Apple device. Thank you Apple! :D
 
@ all the people saying Apple TV is not for them....


1. Then why are you on a thread celebrating the release of Take 2!?
2. I do not feel the need to justify why I like the appleTV but if you must know it is worth every penny to me for the rentals. I don't have to own movies. I never really watch them again. The freedom to surf movies from my couch and then be watching them in minutes and not having to return them is worth the $229 entrance fee.
 
Thanks very much for answering. Any insight as to why, or are these things that may be in the pipeline, or are they considered non-issues?

Apple doesn't comment on un-announced or un-released features/products.

Kevin

Can you sign into Flickr on the AppleTV? Or will it only display those photos that you have made public?

Only public photos are supported in this release for .Mac and flickr.

Kevin
 
Anything not sync'ed to the apple TV will disappear from streaming. I am sure itunes would complain if its content folder disappeared.

I have a desktop that i leave on 24/7 for stuff like this, as well as some 500GB USB drive which contains all of my itunes/dvd/etc content.


So iTunes does not have to be running in order to playback 'synced' content?
 
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