Apple Vision Pro Battery Supports Up to 2.5 Hours of 2D Video Playback

[robbietop]

If you're worried about catching Covid at home, you have larger issues to worry about.

$3500 + $200 for 512Gb + $99 for the lenses is not $5700. Apple hasn't said anything about cellular, so it's probably wifi only, but you can tether off your phone if needed. I seriously doubt a second battery will cost around $1900.

Seem like you should worry about basic math instead of VP.

No we get it, you don't like them.

Do you have $3499 just laying around? Even with 0% APR, that's $291 a month for 12 months....plus tax....plus....AppleCare....plus accessories....

And I don't worry about COVID. Just had it again, was at work everyday. One of the people I am seeing prolly gave it to me.

 

[ProfessionalFan]

As far as I can tell this isn’t the Xbox connect from 2010, but for some reason a lot of people think it is.

Just some people, those who couldn't spend 5 seconds doing research before standing on their soapbox.

 

[tonyisit]

That's innovation for you....2.5 hours is amazing....hold on....let me get out my 18 hour battery life on my laptop....or the 24 hour battery life on the iPhone Pro Max or my AppleTV which plugs into my 75" TV, or a 24"-36" dual monitor setup for my Mac mini or iMac.

Again, how does this replace a device? I am only seeing ANOTHER device to add....it's not portable....it has a laughable battery life with a battery that is bulky and HARDWIRED to the machine.....and has only a niche functionality that at the end of the day a vast majority have no need for.

And before you retort, what are the combined sales of PSVR/PSVR2, Meta's Quest, and other VR scuba masks in the space? And then look at iPhone sales per year and ask if the ScubaVision Pro Max replaces any functionality. Even if you look forward at an iterative evolution over time, you get sunglasses....

And I can tell you that 90% of smartphone customers don't wanna sit on their couch and move their hands around in the air when they could lay on their side or lay back on the couch and use their hands for a far more convenient and ergonomic experience.

I predict they will sell 4 of these

 

[ProfessionalFan]

Do you have $3499 just laying around? Even with 0% APR, that's $291 a month for 12 months....

So the product isn't for you or me since I also don't have that laying around. Just because we won't buy it, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

 

[MayaUser]

I predict they will sell 4 of these

4 per day

 

[citysnaps]

Then what the **** does it do? I have to buy one so I can use the IKEA app to figure out if my new couch is gonna fit?

"It'll help with surgeons doing surgery." Great, let me talk to the 100,000,000 surgeons in the world.

"It's great with gaming." Playstation 5.

"You could go on dates with it!" Great, I can masturbate....I never do that.

"You can have a virtual desktop while having your house as the background!" I totally live in the $10 million mansion shown in the promo.

"You can enjoy it on a camping trip." Dude, the last thing I am doing on a camping trip is watching a movie on a VR headset. I am getting trashed with my friends and high as balls before cooking steak and then probably wild sex under the stars.

"It's great for watching movies and relaxing" Here's a money saver.

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Correct. It's not for you. Don't worry about it. Many people will find it useful. Try and be happy for them. Much better than being upset.

 

[ProfessionalFan]

I predict they will sell 4 of these

If you offered O/U on this, I'd take the over easily.

 

[deepspacecowboy]

Yes, but even there, if everything on say a virtual quad screen is not updating at the same time, there could be enough bandwidth to update all of them.

A very typical example would be the stock trader setup. He/she may have 4, 6 or 8 screens in front of them, each showing a chart of a single stock with maybe some news feeds about each stock. In real-time trading, very little on all of those screens is updating. A bit of new news on screens 2 & 6, a tiny vertical sliver at the far right of the charts for "right now" price data updates, etc. All of that should easily fit into the available bandwidth.

At the other extreme, imagine the NFL Sunday Ticket fan with 4-8 TVs set up to live stream all of the games in 4K at the same time. Attempting to replicate live 4K video streaming to 4-8 screens with no screen tearing, etc due to pinched bandwidth would likely NOT be possible... UNLESS the heavy lifting was done in some attached Mac for such a purpose that then renders the Vpro view as a single 4K stream... a virtualized, virtualized view if you will. Then, it's still one 4K stream being fed to Vpro but now it looks like the usual view of Vpro... akin to how the Vpro interface might be rendered on a 2D screen for app programming purposes.

My best guess: I see the stock trader scenario working just fine since even 8 screens wouldn't actually need that much data flow to keep updating. I'll guess that multiple streams of complex 4K video playback doesn't fly. But that's wild guessing. We'll have to wait and see what it can actually do in person.

Personally, I'll be quite thrilled if it delivers very high res view of a single MB screen at a much larger size... exactly as demoed in the WWDC video. The cheaper options can already do this at low resolutions, so it seems highly likely that Vpro will do this much better at higher resolution. Using a MB with a 50" screen when on long flights, etc is very appealing to me.

While plausible, I highly doubt any of that will be happening anytime soon.

 

[robbietop]

You sound like you are very angry about this device even existing. While I seem some societal risks from this device, and wider adoption of VR as a whole, I still think that this is the next big and final step of consumer computing.

Your eyes act as the mouse movements and your voices as the keyboard, and you pinch to click. It’s a huge step forward in terms of interaction with headsets.

Sounds exhausting.....my eyes are tired thinking about it...

 

[darngooddesign]

Do you have $3499 just laying around? Even with 0% APR, that's $291 a month for 12 months....plus tax....plus....AppleCare....plus accessories....

Moving the goal posts.

And I don't worry about COVID. Just had it again, was at work everyday. One of the girls I am seeing prolly gave it to me.

So then why are you worried about how the VP works with an N95 mask?

 

[robbietop]

You just wrote a paragraph of made-up scenarios based on absolutely nothing though the latter part of your comment does say a lot anyway.

Ok, buy one. Get back to me about how it totally replaces your iPhone and you don't see a need for anything else. Screw it, man. I'm getting rid of my MacBook Pro and TV....don't need em....

I've got the VisionPro 😎

 

[darngooddesign]

Sounds exhausting.....my eyes are tired thinking about it...

Consider thinking with something other than your eyes.

 

[Rogifan]

How in the world could you keep this on your head for that long?

 

[topmounter]

Wow, a $3500 portable TV that requires two battery packs to watch Lawrence of Arabia? We really are living in the (dystopian) future of our dreams.

 

[robbietop]

I won’t, it doesn’t necessarily affect me if it does or not.
Although I was told the Apple Watch wouldn’t last a year on the market back in 2015 and that AirPods were expensive q-tips hanging out of someone’s ears that no one would ever buy, so as you can imagine when people come flowing to this place by the hundreds to tell us “Apple bad, product will flop, Steve’s grave is spinning a million miles a minute” it’s kind of hard to take them seriously.

Even when they make a point that might connect, the constant pessimism from this place would make one think that Apple doesn’t know how to make intelligent business decisions, when they clearly do.

It’s almost like people here think they could run the company better than the actual professionals can.
But then they’re only product idea is… Another 27 inch iMac. How fun. How original. Totally never seen anything like that before.

I saw the use of the AppleWatch. I wear watches. I bought the original. I've had 4 over the years. I saw the future of it....wasn't gonna replace the iPhone....but that's obvious when your screen size is in mm.

I can use a 27" iMac.....I had one for years. I actually have a use for it.

 

[robbietop]

Consider thinking with something other than your eyes.

I tried with my butt, but all it came up with was $99 wheels for the Mac Pro.

 

[Ursadorable]

Sounds as disappointing as the Apple Watch battery life.

 

[0134168]

So you can´t see "Oppenheimer" in a row.

 

[robbietop]

So the product isn't for you or me since I also don't have that laying around. Just because we won't buy it, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

It's doomed to a tiny market then.

 

[robbietop]

I predict they will sell 4 of these

One for Tim, one for Craig, one for Phil, and they'll bury the last one next to MacOS9.

 

[vegetassj4]

These are the ones you want.

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Yeah, but then you start getting a hankering for some tasty humbergers:

 

[MallardDuck]

Bummer that many current movies are longer than that (too long).

This feels a lot like a product not ready for prime time.

 

[mukiex]

Same here.

It is, right now, the only thing that has me interested: Can I use this as an external monitor on my Mac.
Considering I use a Wacom tablet to draw and paint — and am not good at touch typing — I am curious… I still need to see things outside the screen.

Anyway, time will tell I guess.

For what it's worth, I think this was covered in the initial reveal. You can basically turn this into an external monitor, or potentially multiple external monitors. The big questions that you should wait on peoples' reviews for will be:

1. How many monitors you can use across the lineup
2. How responsive those monitors are (it's basically Sidecar Pro)
3. How much of an impact on device battery those monitors result in

Basically, you'll want to see how well it actually works before diving in.

 

[Eldaerenth Faexidor]

Apple Vision Pro is either going to save Apple or its going to annihilate Apple.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

While plausible, I highly doubt any of that will be happening anytime soon.

Me too, but since we're all still only imagining what it can and cannot do, there is room for anything to play out. The extremist pessimists can't see it able to do anything. The extreme optimists can heal the sick, walk on water and raise the dead with it. Reality will be somewhere in-between.

The nicest thing about this round of threads is that there is now a date where reality will wash away all speculation about vapor. We'll soon know very clearly what it can and cannot do. We'll soon see if not a single person will buy, everyone will buy or some number somewhere between those extremes will buy. I'm certain there will be more buyers than "no one" and less buyers than "everyone." Etc.

Like the new iPhone USB-C change "lint magnet", "broken tongues", "wobbly" pessimism ahead of the USB-C iPhone launch, it will be hard to keep spinning how terrible this will be after it actually exists and people know better. It will also be hard to imagine how fantastic this is after it actually exists and people know better.

Personally, I see little point in marrying either extreme viewpoint before trying one in person and seeing what it can and cannot do with one's own eyes, ears, hand gestures, etc. It may be a frog or it may be a prince/princess. Until then- like all of the countless threads before this one- one can imagine it as the worst or best thing ever and then pile on supporting viewpoints from others with similar imaginations. A collective pessimism doesn't make it a doomed product just like a collective optimism doesn't guarantee a massive success. It's very much a "we'll see" proposition.

I- like you presumably- look forward to seeing one first hand and giving it a good try. I reserve my own final judgement (and cash stays in wallet) until then. Then, I may swing from leaning to the optimistic to the pessimistic view when reality settles all imagined expectations. Or, I may walk out of the store with one in the bag and enjoy whatever it can actually do that moved me to buy it.