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While cool tech/capability, nothing says "creepy af" faster than a dad wearing those at their kid's b-day party. I can imagine myself dropping my kid off at a party and the dad has this things on. I'm a dad. I don't need anything else further eroding what little street cred I [think I might] still possess.

But it's cool tech that enables novel ways of working, thinking, experiencing. It'll be super interesting to see what people, and devs, do with this platform and the capabilities it will afford - especially as the platform/category matures. I'll likely say this a few dozen more times: hands-down the most ambitions vision to come out of Apple, ever. The concept is years ahead of where anyone in the space was thinking/acting/presenting. Apple leapfrogged the limited VR category and went all in on MR.

For me, I have always been interested in how we interact with our tech. From mouse to trackpad to styli to touch to gestures to whatever input method Apple is tying to Vision Pro (sorry, still not yet fully processed all of the updates from yesterday). I remember working with a creative director, circa early 00s, who did all of his design work on a Powerbook. As a PowerMac + mouse-using graphic designer, his approach was both radical and super interesting. I really liked how self-sufficient and clean a laptop/trackpad combo was and that experience began to evolve my approach. So I made the conscious decision to get a lunch day Magic Trackpad and face the issue - knowing touch would be the next frontier. it took a little tine, but I was surprised at home quickly (at least, in my fuzzy recollection) I adapted. Never looked back. So I am fascinated by what Vision Pro is ushering in as far as input is concerned.

While Vision Pro is not without issues that come with any first generation product - let alone one so bold, it is pretty fascinating. Monday will eventually be remembered as the moment it all changed. But it's going to take time. Adoption won't be anywhere near an iPhone (nor was that expected - at least from this guy). But VO is boldly pointing toward a personal computing space that seems almost inevitable.
 
I think that whole line of "missing out on the event" because of wearing the headset is bs. Whenever I use my iPhone to record my kids' events, I am constantly looking at the screen on my iPhone to make sure I'm capturing the whole scene correctly. How is that any different?
It's not different. You are missing part of the event. We see this all around. People are engrossed in videoing the concert, the party, the ride, the performance...and they're missing the full experience of the event. Are they missing all of it? No, of course not. But the experience is degraded by the diversion of your attention to the technology. As you said, you are "constantly looking at the screen"...instead of the look of joy on your child's face.
 
Oh is that the litmus test for a dystopian future? They need to be injecting chemicals into you? Lol I think the notion that a machine stands in between you and reality, especially during an important moment like a child’s bday party is what’s depressing to people, some people, but I think the target audience for this product are those who’d never be invited to a bday party to begin with so I understand why there’s no concern to some.
growing up, my dad watched my birthday parties through the viewfinder of a series of VHS, Hi8 and DV camcorders. We mocked him endlessly for not being more present more often, for getting the camera out too much, for not using the tripod more. But I love that he did that, I love knowing that I can look back at memories of growing up, that I can see and re-live moments with family that is gone too soon, etc. Is wearing the headset to record lame and clunky? Absolutely, but is having important moments of our lives preserved dystopian? Hell no, I'd argue the opposite, not being able to preserve memories would be far more terrifying and concerning
 
This camera feature is actually great. You can wear Vision Pro during an event and be constantly ready to snap a shot or video.

This lens probably also has zoom. You can zoom-in on tiny writing on packaging.

Is there a demo of the 'Vision Pro is recording a video' animation?
 
This is the proverbial double edge sword.

On one hand if you live in the moment you experience it but memory does unfortunately fade away.

If it's recorded you have it saved and can go back to that moment at your choosing. Ideally you have someone else filming but if faced with those two options recording the moment via camera/phone etc is the better option.

Who here hasn't looked back at their photo collection and said "oh wow I totally forgot about this" and then you instantly remember the moment.
 
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The first image of the dad wearing those and filming his kids is creepy...

I'd rather enjoy the moment in real-time OR quickly snap a pic with my phone (and tuck it away)...I think the trend should be less tech in our lives rather than the complete opposite. But obviously, Apple would know better than some random person like me.
Not sure why a parent filming kids at a birthday party is creepy? Happens every day....


I think the trend should be, people buy whatever tools they need to do whatever they want with them. Personally I see Apple Vision as the start of us using less. Everything device they've created has led to this. It's a laptop on your face, it's a home theater/appletv, it's a camera, it's a communicator etc.


Also to all the people that feel this "disconnects" us, (first WE disconnect ourselves willingly, the tech doesn't disconnect us), second that ship has already sailed, people experience life *through* their devices every day all day. Go to any concert and people can't watch the show, they have to watch through their screens and of course broadcast to social media that they're there and you're not (very important lol).This is just another piece of technology people will do the same thing with.

TV > Video game consoles > computers/the internet > iPhones/iPads > social media > streaming/binge watching. All ways in which people have lived through screens going back decades. People want to escape reality, if we're desiring people to connect more, maybe we should look at the reasons WHY people want to escape into screens (the dumpster fire that is reality might be a clue) and not focus on the screens so much.
 
You've got to figure this tech is going to come to phones in future generations. Nobody wants to wear this thing at any type of event that you'd want to relive.
Not sure why that’s true. You’re still there. I really don’t see a difference between holding a giant iPad in front of your face while filming your kids birthday party, college graduation.

And like any event you’re going to take breaks from filming.
 
For me it was the worst part and the one that creeped me out the most.

You're at your kids birthday and instead of enjoying the moment or taking a quick picture you put on a pair of glasses to remember that moment... I don't know, as I said in another post, it reminds me a lot of an episode of Extrapolations or Black Mirror.

There was another scene where he was seeing those images, and he was alone, and it just gave the feeling that his family had died and he was clinging to those "memories" by putting on glasses that cut him off from the real world.

I find it sad in general how they presented and the supposed purposes that Apple intends to sell us with these glasses. Apple supposedly wants us to get closer, to connect with our family and friends, and all this device seems to do is push us further away, and connect through a fake avatar.

If I want to talk to my partner via FaceTime, I want to see his or her face, even if it looks pixelated, cut off, or whatever, but I want to see the person, not an avatar generated by artificial intelligence (sorry, Machine Learning). They sell it to you as a closer experience, but it's fake, it's not real. They are selling you an unreal, fake world, where you are alone in an aseptic, cold and lonely room.
 
I just thought of another reason Apple's price point on this device is so high. They are going to lose some sales on some other devices because people like me won't be buying certain other Apple devices once I purchase the Vision Pro. Look at my siggy. I have a device in almost all categories. However, I have already decided to afford the Vision Pro, I will not purchase another iMac or iPad. With the Vision Pro, iPhone, and MacBook Pro, I do not need an iMac or iPad.
 
Would be great if it was a mode was available to constantly record the last 5 seconds and only save it if you hit the button. Would fix that problem with the missed shot.
 
I just thought of another reason Apple's price point on this device is so high. They are going to lose some sales on some other devices because people like me won't be buying certain other Apple devices once I purchase the Vision Pro. Look at my siggy. I have a device in almost all categories. However, I have already decided to afford the Vision Pro, I will not purchase another iMac or iPad. With the Vision Pro, iPhone, and MacBook Pro, I do not need an iMac or iPad.
Maybe in the long term, but this first generation unit is being sold almost at cost. Perhaps they’ll make some tweaks before launch to shore up their margins. We know that they are already planning to also offer a cost-cut second gen offering to go along the full-fat second gen. Market performance and manufacturing costs will determine where those units are priced.
 
re: the birthday image:
So, the concept is that we can wear an AR headset and miss out on the actual event so that we can re-live it later virtually?

This isn’t exactly new. When I was a kid there was always someone with a shoulder mounted VHS camcorder you’d be doing your best to avoid. Those weren’t the first either. Home video before that, like in the 70s, was on reels. And as a toy, we had the PXL2000 that recorded to cassette tapes.

This is just the new version. It doesn’t seem quite as obnoxious as those old RCA camcorders… but it’ll certainly compete with it for that title if anyone actually does that (I can’t see it happening).
 
There is an additional head band in the picture of the dad. It sits on top of his head but no one has noticed it or talks about it.
 
Will be good to capture 3D photos and videos. But wearing a headset to capture it will ruin the moment.
Would you rather live in the moment once, or capture the moment to re-live it unlimited times? That is the question. I can see arguments for both sides actually. Ideally if I could capture it without something covering my eyes that would be great...like an iPhone or something. ;)
 
that example of a birthday cake just sucks ...
I think this feature will be useful for creating learning videos or remote teaching/troubleshooting and such ...
And don't forget the adult content. And the military.
 
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The first image of the dad wearing those and filming his kids is creepy...

I'd rather enjoy the moment in real-time OR quickly snap a pic with my phone (and tuck it away)...I think the trend should be less tech in our lives rather than the complete opposite. But obviously, Apple would know better than some random person like me.
Tim should be ashamed of himself. Jobs made the iPhone small and easy to put in your pocket so it would not interfere with your life. The last thing we need is this much computer in our faces. Human beings don’t need it. Society certainly doesn’t need it. Shame on you Apple. Shame on you Tim.
 
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Capturing these simply MUST be a feature on the iPhone 15 Pro otherwise this makes absolutely no sense. If not the 15 then the 16. I could see myself taking tons of these if they can be captured on my iPhone AND can be replayed like a regular movie/picture.
 
I think this has the potential to be the game-changing feature for Vision Pro.

The $3499 price tag feels a lot smaller if I can record and re-live life moments in 3D… assuming I can get past wearing it during those moments to record 😅
The irony of "re-living" a moment you never really actually lived...
 
Oh is that the litmus test for a dystopian future? They need to be injecting chemicals into you? Lol I think the notion that a machine stands in between you and reality, especially during an important moment like a child’s bday party is what’s depressing to people, some people, but I think the target audience for this product are those who’d never be invited to a bday party to begin with so I understand why there’s no concern to some.
There's going to be two worlds on the same planet and these worlds will be diverging.

One world is where people use technology in a seamless way to enable our abundance and we exit the slave matrix money system and develop our natural abilities far beyond any technology - like in the book "the celestine prophesy". We will use AI to do all the things no human wants to do.

The other world is where we reach abundance by merging with machines, the transhumanist dystopia / utopia, where lonely people live in small pods and VR feeds directly into the brain make it seem less lonely. Injecting drugs - I think most of the people going there are part of the 50 - 70% of the western world _already_ consuming psychopharmaceuticals.. they're already doing it. AI will be telling us what to do.

Apple is unfortunately going for the second option, so they won't be part of my world if they keep going there.

I was fascinated with this VR ad because it's an ad, and it should be trying to sell me on this device. Instead I felt sad for all these lonely people living in their pods and watching movies alone with popcorn and their super HD technology.

No hugs, touch, or human warmth.
 
Lol I think the notion that a machine stands in between you and reality, especially during an important moment like a child’s bday party is what’s depressing to people, some people, but I think the target audience for this product are those who’d never be invited to a bday party to begin with so I understand why there’s no concern to some.
So many people already have a (smartphone) camera/display between them and reality. It’s only a small step further to free the hands in that moment by wearing smart glasses. I’m sure that future iterations on that product will be increasingly less obtrusive.

Eventually it won’t be more than a fancy glass with a slightly thicker frame, compared to corrective glasses.

By then it will be generally accepted by the majority and people will accept it for the advantage of being able to re-live such moments in close-to-reality quality over and over again (or even participate in real-time, if they can not attend the event in person for one reason or another).
 
There was another scene where he was seeing those images, and he was alone, and it just gave the feeling that his family had died and he was clinging to those "memories" by putting on glasses that cut him off from the real world.

Relevant.
 
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it’s baffling that anyone thinks this is useful or interesting. this thing is so bad.
Actually I find it one of the best approaches yet to AR/VR and am looking forward to a future iteration that’s more affordable. I’m confident that you’ll suddenly find it interesting when your eyesight deteriorates with age and you can then have _really_ huge screens around you that’d be completely impractical as physical devices. That is, if you don’t withdraw from IT when growing older …
 
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