I think the first-generation Apple Vision Pro will be more common with passengers in the Premium Economy, Business and First Class cabins, given the income brackets of the people flying in those and the extra space + increased luggage allowance. And usage probably more practical for shorter, domestic flights, if relying only on battery.
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Power outlets in domestic and international flights is really aircraft- and airline-dependent.
Airlines often have fleets comprised of different generations of airplanes. So it’s really the luck of the draw sometimes which aircraft you get; whether it has (working) power outlets or not. And if I’m not mistaken, the power outlets only function at cruising altitude, not during takeoff and landing.
You can always carry more AVP battery packs, or a power bank and plug the AVP battery into the power bank while you use the AVP to get 2+ hours of continuous usage.
Airlines often have fleets comprised of different generations of airplanes. So it’s really the luck of the draw sometimes which aircraft you get; whether it has (working) power outlets or not. And if I’m not mistaken, the power outlets only function at cruising altitude, not during takeoff and landing.
You can always carry more AVP battery packs, or a power bank and plug the AVP battery into the power bank while you use the AVP to get 2+ hours of continuous usage.
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I don’t fly often, but when I do I’m typically in Business/First. Sure there’s often power for those seats, but I still think my other concerns apply. I highly doubt very many first class passengers will be wearing Gen 1 headset.
Disengenuos & evasive BS artists. Apple never mention the required battery pack.
The One Part of the Vision Pro That Apple Doesn’t Want You to See | WIRED
The One Part of the Vision Pro That Apple Doesn’t Want You to See | WIRED
What it was in the launch video and every review has talked about it.
It's definitely minimized in marketing images, but not in any abnormal way. All companies do things like hide wires or minimize other shortcomings. For example, you'll also notice the notch is downplayed/hidden in MacBook images with dark wallpapers, etc. Fast food adverts use fake props to make food look a certain way (that in no way resembles the actual product).
When you really think about it, there's needs to be legislation to rein in all of this egregious marketing practices, but that's a separate conservation.
That's a good point. On the other hand, even normal binocular vision doesn't work very well at the edges of the field of view, so it might not have to be a show stopper.
Another thing that occurred to me is that the Tech Specs lists 51–75 mm for Interpupillary Distance, so if it can be set to be different from a person's actual IPD, that might get the effect of mild horizontal prism if used in conjunction with a sphere prescription.
I hope one of the hands on reviews or in-store demos can determine whether that has any chance of working.
Failing that, maybe positioning a window at the wrong distance can help. If you need divergence, it probably can't go past infinite distance, but for convergence, distance could go past zero to negative. But the software might blank out the image if it thinks it's too close. If so, knowing that distance could be useful information.
(knowing the optical focal distance that the AVP display uses when there are no optical inserts would also be useful information)
It's been quite a while since I took an optics class, and my scientific understanding of human vision comes entirely from Wikipedia, but mostly out of geek/engineer-curiosity I've been kind of pondering how this works.
I'm assuming all your speculation is related to software correction of pupil-offset rather than doing it with glass, and seems like it might work. I should note that my comment about the edges of the field of vision if software-corrected have more to do with essentially letterboxing your vision when you looked away from center than peripheral vision. It would be less jarring if the other eye's display was cropped accordingly, so the edge of your field of view (which is no longer the edge when you look away from the center on the axis of the offset) isn't different between your two eyes. Having a narrower "window" through which you're looking would presumably be much less jarring than a different window for each eye.
What I'm curious about is whether the eye tracking system operates through the lenses or is inside them and pointed directly at your eyes. I kind of assume the latter, since corrective lenses would inherently blur everything on the far side of the lenses calibrated to work on an eyeball, but maybe it's looking at your retina, in which case the glass optics need to match the lenses in your eye in order for it to focus there.
If--big if--it is indeed looking directly at your eyes, rather than through the lenses, then this seems very correctable. As long as the lenses make the images look right to you, all you should theoretically need to do is calibrate the eye tracking system to know that "when right eye is looking at X,Y,Z coordinates, it's pointed at A,B,C coordinates on the screen". I don't want to say that's easy to correct for, because I'm sure there are many complicated nuances to how it works, but that seems like a fairly straightforward software correction that could be either pre-programmed based on the prescription or manually calibrated by the user ("Look here and tap. Now look here and tap." repeat 50 times around the field of vision and for various distances).
An interesting aside, 51-75mm IPD is much wider than what most VR headsets offer; the Quest 3 only has 58-70mm. That's a significant difference; according to the statistics from the US military cited in Wikipedia, the Vision Pro's range should exclude less than 0.1% of the population at either end, probably less.
For the Quest 3, in contrast, something like 10% of women and 4% of men are below 58mm, and 5% of men and over 1% of women are above 70mm, so overall right around 10% of the population is "out of spec".
Perhaps the way the Vision Pro works makes it easier to compensate than other headsets, or maybe Apple is just using some of that huge price tag to cover a bigger fraction of the population.
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It's sold close to a billion dollars of revenue already which isn't so bad. The 7 pages is because of the price point. Even if this thing was a grand less it would have far more discussion. There is a relatively select few who would have this type of money for a product relatively niche.
So, not a success. As noted, Apple imagines this as a must have device. So much so that Tim Cook was on Good Morning America trying to hype up housewives to buy it. And yet, at ridiculously low numbers for Apple they’ve been unable to sell it out on launch day. Or even several days later. Many still just sit on the shelf. And while 3.5k seems like a lot, it’s really not especially expensive for a device so long as the device actually delivers that kind of value. But to date we have no evidence that the VP is actuality worth 3.5k and that is the central problem.
Surf Monkey is just butt hurt he can’t afford the device. Based on his recent activity and posts on MacRumors forums. 😂
Apparently he’s smarter than a $3 Trillion company employing 160,000+ people and its ability to do market research and have any clue and strategy about what it’s doing.
Apparently he’s smarter than a $3 Trillion company employing 160,000+ people and its ability to do market research and have any clue and strategy about what it’s doing.
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I've seen you on here for a good while and your posts generally reflect someone not biased to either extreme: NOT "Apple is always right and practically perfect in every way" fanboy nor "Apple is completely wrong and there's nothing here for anyone" pessimist.
When you have yours, I hope you will give it a good pounding and post an objective review... and- if so- I look forward to reading it. The good, the bad, comments not biased by lucrative YouTube ad dollars or predisposed to hating a product that is not even available to try yet. That kind of REAL review by consumer-minded people will be very helpful to all who might be on the fence about Vpro.
And whether you write a review or not, enjoy your new tech!
Tim brought all the attention to this product that made the iPhone 15 series a joke.
i myself am a hardcore apple consumer, everything i have is apple brand, an as a consumer seen the direction apple is going, giving us zero innovation yet charging stupid money for their products, that right there is an absolute NO.
Now this new Device launch starting at 3,500 do i have the money to buy it? Of course i do. Do i need to waste my money with a few click to order it , Heck NO.
Just like you there’s lots of people that sees it an amazing new device, just like me, there’s lots of people that think this is a flop.
You’re allowed to not be into an Apple product even if you’re a hardcore Apple customer. I don’t see how AVP makes any other Apple product a joke. My spouse has an iPhone 15 Pro & loves it. (Keep in mind many people said similar things about almost all of Apple’s devices & services.) However if you don’t want one (most people don’t) that’s cool... 👍🏻
You’re allowed to believe that a certain apple product is an absolute masterpiece but in reality what you keep buying is a mediocre product. Every consumer will use an apple product according to its needs; just because you’re spouse has a 15 pro and loves it, it does not mean that everyone will love it too because other consumers either are hungry for more innovation or are disappointed that there‘s something, a specific aspect of the product that was not fix and/or taking away from them and this is just me guessing, you’re spouse cant tell the difference in between the camera of the phone and a real camera to shoot a photograph. Another Apple product disappointment? HomePod.
okay, another Apple product as software that continues to be disappointing? Siri.
However, you’re more than welcome to continuing buying your favorite Apple product you want, iPhone and Mac sales are continuing to go down and that should tell you right there that people are opting to try something new and/or realizing that is just not worth buying again.
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I freaking love my HomePods. I've got a pair in our home gym, a pair in our living room for our TV, one Mini in our master bedroom, and another Mini in our kitchen. I have an ancient AirPort Express connected to a pair of Klipsch The Nine's in another room and all play together to distribute music throughout our home, most of the time using Siri to bring up whatever music we happen to be in the mood for. It all works and sounds fantastic.
You want something different, I get it. Nobody's "right". We all vote with our wallets, and Apple is doing okay yeah?
Of Course Apple is doing fine, they’re sitting on what? $150B+ in cash RN, they can buy Disney if they want.
HomePods are good, they could be better but just like you said, everyone has a different taste.
But Sonos and other brands came above Homepod and took the sales point to another level; in reality, HomePod, is another piece of hardware just like AirPods Max, good, and that’s it; Once again, people opt to go out there and look for better options. I’m not saying that every single a product is a disappointment because is not; however, there’s certain categories in the product line up that is now turning into a product with lack of innovation and commitment and that is why some consumers are opting to look for other/better options to invest with their money.