I’m am definitely not for hampering success. And I too are also skeptical of the judicial system to not go on a witch hunt.
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Apple vs. the U.S. Department of Justice: What You Need to Know
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We can truthfully say that not all so-called expert opinions are from experience, it's like the PHD Math fellow I assisted years back that understood programming but could not troubleshoot a computer for beans. The same applies to law professors in regards to the modern tech industry, a lot of them might be great with law arguments but call upon another field they are not experienced with and they are the living definition of the word illiterate which is defined as marked by a lack of acquaintance with the fundamentals of a particular field of knowledge.Whereas, legal experts have claimed otherwise.
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But going from the actual DoJ submission they bring in the pricing of the phone as one of their main arguments. Starting with Article 36. They go on to talk about their use of subscriptions that are for Apple only products as being an inhibitor for people leaving the system.
The same can be said for products of other types like cars, appliances etc where you are tied 100% to their own manufacturers or you lose warranty. If they are going after Apple, they HAVE to go after other industries.
Blue/Green bubbles versus Assault weapons. I can see why the U.S. DoJ is concerned about the bubbles. So dangerous…
Edit: I can see why you selectively left out a comment about Pharma
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- Apple uses its "rapidly expanding" role as a TV and movie producer to control content and affect the "flow of speech." [ This could be true for almost any media company! This is a feelings argument! AppleTV is extremely small compared to Netflix. ]
- Non-iPhone users experience "social stigma, exclusion, and blame" for "breaking" chats with where other participants own iPhones. This is "particularly powerful" for teenagers, and "social pressure" causes teens to switch to iPhone. [This is a feelings argument! This can apply to almost any luxury or high end brand! Are companies going to just all make the same product as mandated by the Government? ]
- The DoJ blames Apple's market dominance for failed smartphones that include the Amazon Fire Phone and the Microsoft Windows Phone. [ This is a feelings argument. Every product is not a guaranteed winner and every product does not deserve a participation trophy. Consumers make choices, some products win and other lose based on their own merits! ]
The entire lawsuit is just allegations that need to be proved in court. That part is agreed.
The DOJ seems to be confident that they can prove their case or else why would they go to such expense to sue Apple? Anybody who thinks that the DOJ and the AGs of 16 states/districts are bringing up frivolous suits must reassess their views.
Yes. It is a lawsuit and it needs to be proven. Not sure how data part is tied in to the suit, but I am fine if you think that will help the government/DOJ to win the case
Yeah, no kidding. Apple has not, in your words, had the "option to deploy RCS to be secure with message to Android". You expect Apple to donate the end-to-end encryption to the standard? You want this work to be free too right?
Heh… those ******** in Supreme Court will definitely rule feelings over facts, I am fairly certain. Also, just because you deny laid out accusations by DOJ doesn’t make them non-fact. I am glad you find something important to exact a little bit of rant. But, I don’t share the same sentiment.
"iPhone users haunt them" ---- LOL
How so? Cyber stalking? Cyber bulling? I wish I had these powers to haunt not only Android users, but real people too.
Government is grossly overrated! When's the last time you've been to the department of motor vehicles in your state? Or the local public school?
I hope someone can stop serializing new parts for Macs and iPhones.
WHY???
Because right to repair is a joke and not possible if you have to order parts specifically serialized for your Mac or iPhone just to work properly. they need to be activated.
WHY???
Because right to repair is a joke and not possible if you have to order parts specifically serialized for your Mac or iPhone just to work properly. they need to be activated.
As if his reelection is strictly and only tied to this DOJ lawsuit against Apple.
How does it matter? The government, whether useful or useless, has brought an antitrust case against Apple. Apple has to fight it in the courts on merits. They cannot say "Government is grossly overrated" so I will not respond to the suit, right?
Yes, I fully agree. If there are people who say the lawsuit is a joke (mostly journalists), there are several who say the suit is very good (they are legal experts). To think that DOJ and 16 AGs do not know how to file a suit is laughable. It is not as if they had never filed a suit and never won a suit. They have filed several antitrust suits earlier and have been the winners in some of them. If such experts have filed a suit mentioning some stuff, there must be a reason. They must have thought that this was the best way to proceed in this case.We can truthfully say that not all so-called expert opinions are from experience, it's like the PHD Math fellow I assisted years back that understood programming but could not troubleshoot a computer for beans. The same applies to law professors in regards to the modern tech industry, a lot of them might be great with law arguments but call upon another field they are not experienced with and they are the living definition of the word illiterate which is defined as marked by a lack of acquaintance with the fundamentals of a particular field of knowledge.
So Tesla, Johnson & Johnson, AT&T, Lilly Inc., T-Mobile, Medtronic, Caterpillar, John Deere, General Electric, Philips are also on the list?
Also, why do I have to pay US$230 for a single year to get an update on my Subaru Maps, which will be 6 months out anyway?
it's not just Apple.
The more I think about it, the more I can see that Apple is forcing their ecosystem onto users by not allowing other ecosystems to become established.
As a web applications developer, I'm frequently implementing APIs in order to integrate 3rd-party services together into an ecosystem that I'm building (ie. for my business, for clients). This is very common. But can it be done easily with Apple's services? No. There are minimal to no web-based APIs available.
If you need integration with iCloud services, you need to purchase Apple hardware.
If you need integration with Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Zoho, Constant Contact, etc. etc. etc.... you just implement their APIs from any device or server. (Twitter used to be on this list, but isn't anymore thanks to Mr. Bonehead).
It's time for Apple to get with the times and be more open. Let the merits of their hardware stand on their own. Let their ecosystem be a user choice, not a defacto requirement.
As a web applications developer, I'm frequently implementing APIs in order to integrate 3rd-party services together into an ecosystem that I'm building (ie. for my business, for clients). This is very common. But can it be done easily with Apple's services? No. There are minimal to no web-based APIs available.
If you need integration with iCloud services, you need to purchase Apple hardware.
If you need integration with Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Zoho, Constant Contact, etc. etc. etc.... you just implement their APIs from any device or server. (Twitter used to be on this list, but isn't anymore thanks to Mr. Bonehead).
It's time for Apple to get with the times and be more open. Let the merits of their hardware stand on their own. Let their ecosystem be a user choice, not a defacto requirement.
I once got charged at work (Police Officer) for giving "false evidence in court" (I didn't do it). But I got charged nonetheless. When I approached the Officer in Charge of our Internal Investigation Branch who charged me, I got told "sometimes we have to run through these things to appear as we are doing the right thing. We don't necessarily expect to win".
Naturally, it was thrown out of court at trial.
Sometimes they go through a process and accept a loss because it helps keep the wolves at bay.
Interesting you’re in full support of an even larger entity throwing its weight around. Remember, this entity effectively owns a large part of all corporations through taxation, which Apple is the largest payer.
Nothing is more of a mega corp than the government and they have a monopoly on violence. Does it really make sense for American government to target Apple, an American company, when they have a clear competitor with an even more dominant worldwide share? Seems like it’s all a reach and political posturing in an election year to me.
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So that keeping the wolves at bay sounds like something politicians like to do to keep themselves in the news.
Now doesn't that sound very much like the basis of this DOJ effort? I highly doubt it's anything good for consumers. Heavens knows how messed up the FCC is also for consumers.
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Certainly a factor and he needs a lot of help at the moment, let’s be serious. If he can tout being “tough on those mean corporations making all that money, it could win votes.
Again, people should realize government is far bigger and more powerful than any US company.
I dont dispute the amount of power they have, but I do dispute their abilty to use it.
If the U.S. government wants to change the way corporations work they can change legislation. But the U.S. government is so dysfunctional, no matter who is in charge, that they can’t govern effectively. It’s far better to attack a targeted individual with colourful arguments. They have done that several times. They have won and they have lost.
There is a myriad of changes they could make if they were bipartisan but the fractured condition of the U.S. make it impossible. Otherwise the mass shootings would not continue to be a thing.
This will be very expensive, take a long time and may very well prove to be useless. Change legislation if you want to change the way things work moving forward. Cheaper, quicker and gives corporations more guidance and clarity. You don’t suddenly say ‘you’ve been doing it wrong the last 20 years'.
Religious posts not allowed.Donald Trump will save Apple, America and Europe
Gov already has all your iPhone data,
Look up pegasus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)
1. That exploit is on v16 iOS. Not 17.
2. They were able to collect data from imessages
3. They were able to read Text messages
Nowhere does that 12 month out of date software say they could read iMessages. And that’s what this lawsuit is partly about.
The DoJ have been green bubble shamed. 💚💙