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Now I've just spend almost $2K on a phone and watch...and I have nothing to charge them with! Why can't Apple at least offer the adapters at a reduced price when ordered along side their products? Greedy buggers!

Do the math: At $19 per adapter (that Apple no longer puts in the box) it profits in extra $19 million for every million devices sold.

Have always thought that Apple should offer iPhones code to redeem at an Apple store to get the charging brick and EarPods if required. After all, if a customer requires a charger/EarPods, it's going to have the same environmental impact if the customer goes and buys them, vs getting a code to redeem them for free.

I get the environmental aspect, but it's clearly also a money move.
 
is it really that hard for Apple to create a watch charger without a cable, with an lightning port instead? one cable less to travel with, and you gonna travel with lightning cable anyway.
 
Now I've just spend almost $2K on a phone and watch...and I have nothing to charge them with! Why can't Apple at least offer the adapters at a reduced price when ordered along side their products? Greedy buggers!

Do the math: At $19 per adapter (that Apple no longer puts in the box) it profits in extra $19 million for every million devices sold.
why do you think they stopped putting them in the box? you didn't believe it was for, uhm, environmental reasons, did you?
i still remember the keynote when they dropped the news on the charger/headphones and have the balls to tell something like: and with this amazing improvements the iphone still starts at 999$
 
is it really that hard for Apple to create a watch charger without a cable, with an lightning port instead? one cable less to travel with, and you gonna travel with lightning cable anyway.
That is what most people argue, except usually for lightning to be replaced with USB-C!
 
Good grief! It’s been 6-1/2 years. Technology changes. Get used to it or hold on to your old Watch and iPhone forever. Did you have to purchase a new USB cable once printers stopped using parallel cables or are you still using that printer? Printer manufacturers did not put cables in the box, you had to pay for that USB-A to Type-B cable, sometimes dearly.

If you have a recent Mac OR windows PC, you have a USB-C port. If not, pry open your wallet and buy a damn USB-A/USB-C adapter or charger from Anker or Aukey or Satechi. Then you’re done.

Every single time this is brought up, people will gladly cough up a cool $1,000 for a damn iPhone but think they’re being fleeced to buy a $19 charger, which is a one time purchase. How many do you need? More than one? Probably not.
My printer came with a cable. But it prints wirelessly, anyway.

I have a one-month old Windows desktop that doesn’t have USB-C.

Apple will gladly charge a cool $1000 for a damn iPhone but think they’re being fleeced including a charging block. As between Apple and me, one of us is worth way north of $1,000,000,000,000 and it isn‘t me.
 
Now I've just spend almost $2K on a phone and watch...and I have nothing to charge them with! Why can't Apple at least offer the adapters at a reduced price when ordered along side their products? Greedy buggers!

Do the math: At $19 per adapter (that Apple no longer puts in the box) it profits in extra $19 million for every million devices sold.

Seek happiness by assuaging your outrage and cancel your order, giving Apple a piece of your mind, letting them know you won't put up with that. Stat!
 
One thing that annoys me is Apple seems to be full steam ahead on USB-C, so why don't they put it on their phones too?

I would so love to have one single universal charging cable for EVERYTHING Apple and even many non-Apple devices too!
Create enough frustration among customer base and when they incorporate wireless transfer it’ll be a hallelujah instead of nah.
 
It's been 6-1/2 years since Apple released the 2015 MacBook with a single USB-C port. Quit bellyaching, pry open your wallet and buy something with a USB-C port on it. Good grief, 6-1/2 damn years.
You somehow sponsor them to buy a new device with USB-C port? Wow.
 
Will this cable charge my Series 6 watch any faster?

No, only the S7 supports the higher charging rate.

is it really that hard for Apple to create a watch charger without a cable, with an lightning port instead? one cable less to travel with, and you gonna travel with lightning cable anyway.

I'd rather they just ditch the need for any puck altogether, and allow the Watch to charge from any Qi charger.

AirPods can, and if AirPower had become a thing, it would have dispensed with the need for the puck as well.

A lot of people hate Lighting because it's an extra cable they need to carry. But at least it can serve multiple devices. The Watch charger is bulkier, and is needed solely for the watch.
 
There may be a few things getting in the way of that:
  • Accessory makers. Apple needs a story to plan such a move well in advance to ensure accessory makers can respond. There are a lot of products out there using Lightning as a connector today, including an ultrasound device I never knew existed that was shown during the event. An easily lost Lightning to USB-C adapter would help with the transition, though.
  • Cable makers. Apple makes some amount of revenue from licensing Lightning.
  • Going entirely wireless. If Apple plans to go entirely wireless in a couple years, I imagine a switch to USB-C in the meantime is kind of pointless. That said, accessory makes have an even bigger problem if that were to happen, as would consumers!
I'd love to see USB-C on the phone as well but I'm not holding my breath.
Apple has a very good track record of screwing up everyone else for their own good, so those accessory maker can do nothing but eat the cost of the change from Apple.
 
No, only the S7 supports the higher charging rate.



I'd rather they just ditch the need for any puck altogether, and allow the Watch to charge from any Qi charger.
the only problem with the is the curved bottom glass, hence your current puck is not flat ...
Not saying they shouldn't, but it would come at a much much greater loss (power), or in other words charging efficiency would significantly (my guess 30+%) drop
 
It's been 6-1/2 years since Apple released the 2015 MacBook with a single USB-C port. Quit bellyaching, pry open your wallet and buy something with a USB-C port on it. Good grief, 6-1/2 damn years.
You see when you have to buy it- that’s good for the environment. When Apple has to buy it…that’s bad for the environment. Don’t question it- it’s science.
 
One thing that annoys me is Apple seems to be full steam ahead on USB-C, so why don't they put it on their phones too?

I would so love to have one single universal charging cable for EVERYTHING Apple and even many non-Apple devices too!
I think they’re worried about blowback, honestly. Believe it or not, I STILL hear people on the talk show circuit/in tech media bemoaning the changeover from the original pin connector to lightning cables that happened years ago.
 
the only problem with the is the curved bottom glass, hence your current puck is not flat ...
Not saying they shouldn't, but it would come at a much much greater loss (power), or in other words charging efficiency would significantly (my guess 30+%) drop

Apple intended have the Watch pair with AirPower, and any slight curvature in the caseback was not enough to discourage that scenario, or be seen as a problem.

The Watches use tiny 1.1Wh cells and charge at very low rates. Not a demanding requirement, in either technical or practical terms.
 
Apple intended have the Watch pair with AirPower, and any slight curvature in the caseback was not enough to discourage that scenario, or be seen as a problem.

The Watches use tiny 1.1Wh cells and charge at very low rates. Not a demanding requirement, in either technical or practical terms.
Low charging rates and even greater losses, that is a challenge.
And we do not know WHY Apple abandoned AirPower …
Why do you think Apple is into MagSafe now for wireless charging? My take is to minimize losses, and the watch uses magnets for that exact reason, so I can see the technical challenge…
I’d prefer Apple using standards vs their own proprietary solutions…
 
Too bad I own 0 (zero) usb-c charging bricks. But good thing I have tons of USB-A ones from years of getting them from Apple. Thanks a lot!
well if you plan to still be using technology beyond this year you'll have to get some usb-c anyway, even cars are coming with usb-c, the powerbricks all have usbc now as well. You telling me you can afford a brand new Apple watch but not a usb-c? smh talk about a generation of whining.
 
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