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There isn't one, just another defense of Apple trying to claim that not accepting 2 cents per device is greedy and that Apple is a Saint....

Apple wants to protect consumers from rising costs associated with a costly patent settlement. If Apple has to pay more per device, customers will pay more per device. They are literally fighting for us.
 
Apple wants to protect consumers from rising costs associated with a costly patent settlement. If Apple has to pay more per device, customers will pay more per device. They are literally fighting for us.

So you’re saying your claim is made up and you have no evidence to back your numbers up?
 
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Apple doing what for customers? Fleecing us, YES, fighting for us, NO, Apple wouldn't dare, Tim Cook would be so unemployed if he did that..
 
The ban is part of the legal system, whether or not it’s stupid doesn’t matter. Gotta follow the law
Not my job to enforce the law. I have zero respect for government and could not care less about some nobody company using a patent to extort millions out of the Apple Piñata.
 
Apple wants to protect consumers from rising costs associated with a costly patent settlement. If Apple has to pay more per device, customers will pay more per device. They are literally fighting for us.

Apple are fighting for their profits, not for the good of their customers. They want us to buy their products pure and simple, not because they care for anyone else except that revenue.
 
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Apple has a lot of money, but the government has more, and the government has the power. Apple would be a distant memory in the U.S. if they challenged the government. And that's the way it should be -- there's no good way for a corporation to break the law and get away with it.

Blame all you want and say just buy the company or license the patents, but Apple hasn't talked to them about that and it wont just magically happen. I blame apple for letting it get this far.
Why is the patent not licensed? There is no realistic reason why they could not just license the patent.
 
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It's because all intellectual property rights flow out of the government (it's in the Constitution and every country in the world emulates this as well, even tiny countries like Guyana issue patents).

IP rights are an exception to, and in tension with, anti-trust, and these rights are not self-enforcing. You have to go through the government to enforce them.
Fine. Abolish patents. Problem solved. Either license it or be outcompeted...
 
Apple wants to protect consumers from rising costs associated with a costly patent settlement. If Apple has to pay more per device, customers will pay more per device. They are literally fighting for us.
Stopped reading after “Apple wants to protect consumers from rising costs…” due to uncontrollable laughter. You never disappoint for chuckles. Thank you.
 
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I am a little perplexed on why people think it is good to abolish patents.

Would you be happy to have invented something really useful only to have others take that idea and make money without paying you any compensation?
 
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I am a little perplexed on why people think it is good to abolish patents.

Would you be happy to have invented something really useful only to have others take that idea and make money without paying you any compensation?
It’s the internet … best to ignore some people
 
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Apple are fighting for their profits, not for the good of their customers. They want us to buy their products pure and simple, not because they care for anyone else except that revenue.

Apple are fighting for both consumers and their own bottom line. Price increases due to settling with patent trolls hurts all of us.
 
Apple are fighting for both consumers and their own bottom line. Price increases due to settling with patent trolls hurts all of us.
In the cold light of day though, you are commenting in a thread where Apple has tried to use a technology owned by a medical device company without prior agreement or licensing. They have poached their staff knowing they bring with them propietry information and inside info and fell foul of the law by releasing it to market. Patent trolls are people/organisations who patent things that may not necessarily exist in physical form, but more a concept and try their luck by suing companies that dare to ignore the patent in the hope of making a lot of money. Masimo are not patent trolls as they are using the technologies themselves.
 
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In the cold light of day though, you are commenting in a thread where Apple has tried to use a technology owned by a medical device company without prior agreement or licensing. They have poached their staff knowing they bring with them propietry information and inside info and fell foul of the law by releasing it to market. Patent trolls are people/organisations who patent things that may not necessarily exist in physical form, but more a concept and try their luck by suing companies that dare to ignore the patent in the hope of making a lot of money. Masimo are not patent trolls as they are using the technologies themselves.
It depends on how you define the patented technology. The Masimo patents are directed to the fingertip sensor although there is some loose language in the patents that suggests that the sensor could be worn anywhere on the body, but not explicitly on the wrist. That is the language Masimo relied on to expand their patents in 2021 to cover the Apple Watch after the fact. Perhaps Apple should have seen it coming, but at the time the S6 was released Masimo did not have a (valid) patent on the wrist-worn design, so it was fair game at that time. Whether those patents stand on appeal is yet to be seen but clearly Apple thinks they won't survive.
 
It depends on how you define the patented technology. The Masimo patents are directed to the fingertip sensor although there is some loose language in the patents that suggests that the sensor could be worn anywhere on the body, but not explicitly on the wrist. That is the language Masimo relied on to expand their patents in 2021 to cover the Apple Watch after the fact. Perhaps Apple should have seen it coming, but at the time the S6 was released Masimo did not have a (valid) patent on the wrist-worn design, so it was fair game at that time. Whether those patents stand on appeal is yet to be seen but clearly Apple thinks they won't survive.

Hopefully Apple consulted with their Patent lawyers to search and examine any intentions they had around using the technology. That is what I do if I think something I am working on is close to a competitor or if I want to search other industries for similar without doing it myself. A patent would never have been granted if the technology existed elsewhere so it’ll be interesting to see how this is handled.
 
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