That makes sense. Nor should they, but paying licensing fees might be a smart thing to do.
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Apple Watch Series 9 and Apple Watch Ultra 2 No Longer Available From U.S. Online Store
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I'm a shareholder too, and I want it settled rather than not being able to sell a successful product. My favorite Apple product for that matter...
It would be the smartest thing to do.That makes sense. Nor should they, but paying licensing fees might be a smart thing to do.
One of the amusing things about Mac Rumours is the reaction to patents. If it’s a patent Apple has ignored then it’s stupid and people want the other companies dissolved over it. If another company infringes Apples patents (they have over 70k of them btw), well the system is right and others should respect the legal protection Apple has put in place. All very irrational and hypocritical indeed.
Those asshats at Apple have to set a precedent that they cannot be negotiated with. They're masters of ******** and know if you show a chink in the armor, others will follow suit.
Who needs medical device companies anyway?
Interesting take by someone on Ars Technica, and if true, it would explain how Apple is playing the long term here.
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No last-minute reprieve, US ban on some Apple Watch sales now in effect
Watch Series 9 and Watch Ultra 2 blood oxygen sensors are patent-infringing.
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It's coming down to who will blink first.Interesting take by someone on Ars Technica, and if true, it would explain how Apple is playing the long term here.
No last-minute reprieve, US ban on some Apple Watch sales now in effect
Watch Series 9 and Watch Ultra 2 blood oxygen sensors are patent-infringing.
It is worth noting that the reason Masimo - which is primarily in the medical grade products sector - decided to come up with its own version of a consumer grade smart watch is likely because they needed to do that to meet the "domestic industry" requirement of an ITC enforcement action. The ITC will not ban imports of products unless the patent owner is also in the business of making the patented product. And in Apple's motion for an interim stay, Apple claims that Masimo didn't meet the "domestic industry" requirement and even that a Masimo engineer testified that Masimo didn't have a product like the Apple Watch when Masimo originally filed their complaint with the ITC.
https://cdn.patentlyo.com/media/2023/12/2a6a9f52-83b6-468c-af6c-230aff5f2f85.pdf
What if this company isn’t for sale and they wish to remain innovating for the medical sector?
Yes, actually saved my life. My 91 year old father uses it as well (CHF). People at the gym use it. I don't know of that many people that don't use it.
True. It's about the same price as the S9 or Ultra 2, still not released for sale on their website, and who wants to pay the same price for Masimo's watch that has less features (ie, no cellular service. The description is really sketchy as well.
True. That would mean Masimo would have a product available for sale. They state the SRP is the same as S9 or Ultra 2, with only software, refuses to post the OS, to be able to view the "health" data, you must pair it with some generic looking phone (user manual doesn't state anything), and no cell service, meaning paying more for less. Doesn't state anything about loading additional software. They are very cagey about this alleged watch. Makes me wonder how much (other than having the appearance of an apple watch) they took from Apple. If the sensor layout and functionality are exactly like Apple's, they will get sued as well.
Not according to their website, it said 30 minutes ago that it was going to be released in 2024.
From what I've read, at least 5-10%, as well as used in workouts, etc healthwise. Many need it. It's the reason I waited for the 6 to come out, and why I upgraded to the Ultra 2
Not true. My father's team developed the first Pulse Ox. The Series 6 watch I had matches the pulse ox machines still in use at hospitals, as well as the Masimo finger devices used in hospitals and doctors offices. Not very inaccurate at all. We tested 6 different devices from medical supply shops, the 6 devices spanned 82-97, actual Pulse Ox on Watch and official machine was 94. Sorry bud. A discrepancy on a Masimo device that is off 12 percent isn't accurate.
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Bob's not giving accurate information, either. My father's work team built the original Pulse Ox (took up a small table). He also worked on the minaturization (fingertip) of it years later. He just turned 90, we went out looking for a good fingertip machine, compared 6 - ranged from 82-97. Actual check at a doctor's office, hospital and watch were all 94%.
Out of curiosity: do you know them to “innovate the sector”, or is your just an assumption based on one lucky patent ?
I know they innovate yes. Patents are not granted until there is a unique innovation that others are not doing. If this was ‘pending’, there would be a chance they are trying their luck, but they have patents granted, so are innovating within their Industry sector. This technology within this particular patent is being used in their product line too.
Or six weeks of Apple Watch sales. Big deal. Apple should give him a billion dollars and move on with life.