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Apple Working on Under-Display Touch ID, Could Debut in First All-Screen iPhone

I love Face ID, so much more than Touch ID.

My fingerprints are seemingly difficult for Touch ID to parse, probably due to cracked/dry skin on fingertips, and it's a hassle to keep reregistering (particularly when Face ID automatically adapts so well).

Touch ID failure is such an annoyance that I've been avoiding buying iPad Air and am saving to get iPad Pro instead. For me, any return to Touch ID would be a big step backwards.
 
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surfzen21 said:
I've turned off Face ID to verify purchases because it immediately validates instead of letting me read the price first.
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No it doesn't.
The exact same steps with TouchID purchases exist for FaceID.
You have to double click the side button for the FaceID sensor to even enable, just like TouchID.
Then, you have to hold it to the reader *after* you've shown your face.
Literally the only way to make an accidental purchase is to push the button....... and purposely avoid looking at whats on the screen.
Other than that, FaceID and TouchID have the exact same process for verifying that you actually want to purchase something.
Both have their pros and cons and I'd be all for the choice of either... but this is not a good reason why.
FaceID isn't causing a bunch of people to just start accidentally buying things because their looking at their phone, thats not how it works at all.
 
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They will do under-display Face ID before touch. Apple using facial recognition to unlock devices is a differentiating factor from competitors.

I would not anticipate face+touch due to cost and space constraints. 99% of customers would not perceive the benefits of having two deadbolts on their phone instead of one.
 
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Pro_the_legend said:
Are you living in 2017? In display fingerprint scanners have been a thing on many phones for quite a few years now & have become quite effective.
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There are some people (not necessarily the one you quoted) who don't acknowledge the existence of any non-Apple technology until Apple produces it.

My Samsung Galaxy S6 tablet has under-glass touch ID. It works very well. The only downside is that certain screen protectors can interfere with it. I'm confident that Apple's implementation will be more robust in that regard.

As for me, I still prefer the physical home button on my iPad 9th gen and iPad Mini 5.
 
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When FaceID works it’s great, but when it doesn’t it’s rediculously bad. Often it won’t work if part of my face is obscured, which is to be expected. However it’s the experience of getting into the device when it fails, really poor. it will try and try again and is really slow to provide an option to bypass. Even if Touch ID isn’t integrated there needs to be a quicker way to bypass Face ID when it hasn’t worked.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
No it doesn't.
The exact same steps with TouchID purchases exist for FaceID.
You have to double click the side button for the FaceID sensor to even enable, just like TouchID.
Then, you have to hold it to the reader *after* you've shown your face.
Literally the only way to make an accidental purchase is to push the button....... and purposely avoid looking at whats on the screen.
Other than that, FaceID and TouchID have the exact same process for verifying that you actually want to purchase something.
Both have their pros and cons and I'd be all for the choice of either... but this is not a good reason why.
FaceID isn't causing a bunch of people to just start accidentally buying things because their looking at their phone, thats not how it works at all.
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That's not correct. When it comes to password verification or Touch ID the additional step is one you make affirmatively.

For password verification after I double click the side button, it then asks for a password. I have to type it in.

With Face ID, unless I'm holding my phone away from me when double clicking it verifies the purchase almost instantaneously after the double click.
 
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I hope the same people that scream from the top of their lungs when someone replicates an Apple feature and call them "Unable to innovate" will be calling Apple out too on this if it is true.
It has to swing both ways.
 
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Marbles1 said:
Can't they put it on the side of one of the buttons? But I guess they want to get rid of all buttons.

Apple have been pretty good with accessibility - I hope they find a way to make Touch ID accessible to visually impaired folks and anyone else with other sensory issues. Right now the physical Touch ID is great as you can always find it with your hands. If it's just a glass front with no buttons it'll make things a very awkward.
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The version on my iPad Air that has the sensor on the power button is terrible. I really can’t stand it, it is so much less reliable than the old round home button version. Your finger needs to be on the sensor exactly, there is very little variation accepted on it, like there was on the old version. if your finger is slightly sweaty - won’t work. Put moisturiser on recently? - won’t work. Not wiped the button after a couple attempts? - won’t work. I’m willing to put up with it because I want the smaller bezels and rid of the home button but it’s easily up there with one of the poorest Apple implementations.
 
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surfzen21 said:
That's not correct. When it comes to password verification or Touch ID the additional step is one you make affirmatively.

For password verification after I double click the side button, it then asks for a password. I have to type it in.

With Face ID, unless I'm holding my phone away from me when double clicking it verifies the purchase almost instantaneously after the double click.
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It's a real simple solution. You dont double click the button until you are ready to make the purchase. Just like on TouchID, you dont touch it until you are ready.

You are making it harder than it needs to be.
 
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AppleFarm said:
You know when in movies they have to cut off somebody’s finger to gain access to a door that has fingerprint scanner, how does that work if the door is controlled by Face ID?
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mthomas184 said:
It's a real simple solution. You dont double click the button until you are ready to make the purchase. Just like on TouchID, you dont touch it until you are ready.

You are making it harder than it needs to be.
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I'm describing a scenario that I'm sure I am not alone in. An extra physical step vs an automated step.

It's not a matter of easier or harder.
 
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surfzen21 said:
That's not correct. When it comes to password verification or Touch ID the additional step is one you make affirmatively.

For password verification after I double click the side button, it then asks for a password. I have to type it in.

With Face ID, unless I'm holding my phone away from me when double clicking it verifies the purchase almost instantaneously after the double click.
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It literally doesn’t?It just doesn’t, it sounds like what happened is you made a user error.
if you purchase something online, the Apple Pay screen comes up *before* you have to double click the side button, already with all the pricing details there.
if you’re purchasing something in the store, you either need to hold it near the reader before or after you double click the button.
if you were in such a rush that you just jammed the phone into the reader while double clicking the button and staring at it all at the same time, sure it’ll speed through it.
but that’s on you.
also, if it really wasn’t letting people see their prices before they paid for something, don’t you think that would be like… A real big problem with tons and tons of complaints across the Internet about it?
because so far, this is the first I’ve ever heard about anyone not being able to verify their purchases before they make them.
 
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I used to have a Samsung with under-display fingerprint reader and I hated it. It was slow and unreliable. I really hope Face ID doesn't get replaced as part of this rollout.
 
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