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Apple's 2025 M4 MacBook Air: What to Expect
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They deliberately made it look thicker than it needed to. Same with the MacBook Pro. Both made uglier on purpose. Say what you want about Ive but at least the man knew how to design stuff that actually looked nice. Sometimes I think their latest gear is styled by AI. And don't get me started on jettisoning a mostly unobtrusive iPhone notch in favour of a massive spy-slot punched right through it just to satisfy someone's idea of innovation 🤦♂️
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More expensive, minimal changes, but it’s magical.
I do see your point of view… but it's just poor reporting to state things as fact when they are not.
Besides, there are instances of Apple refreshing products faster than many expect (see the short interval between iPad 3 and iPad 4).
Another example is MacBook Air 15" M2 – which was released in June 2023, then updated to M3 in March 2024. So yes, not the same calendar year, but only 9 months apart…
The true trifecta is "We're creating a cloud based ecosystem to connect the internet of things and people, powered by AI and LLMs to delivery social experiences in the metaverse. Our mission statement is the key driver of our $1B valuation".I’m hoping that the AI hype train will derail in a gigantic cloud of smoke. The article is like “who needs a bump in speed or innovation if you have AI?”.
Usually Apple waits for the wave to fully bake before jumping in and "doing it right", but this time feels like they're jumping into the pool a bit early... seems they need the market cap juice (buy backs aren't as efficient in creating shareholder value).
Dang, so I should've waited for the M4 instead of buying the M3 😂
Nah, I'm all good with it, I'll wait for M7/8/9, depending on how often they will upnumber the MBA.
I have a desktop that will be upgraded earlier, to M6/7/8 too.
So Apple get their money from me.
Nah, I'm all good with it, I'll wait for M7/8/9, depending on how often they will upnumber the MBA.
I have a desktop that will be upgraded earlier, to M6/7/8 too.
So Apple get their money from me.
I think the M4 MBPs will be released before the MBAs. So if we will see the M4 MBA in fall this year we will get the M4 MBPs in summer. Let's see what really happens and enjoy our current machine w/o AI 😁
I most certainly enjoying my devices. The only thing I might upgrade to is when iPadAir gets next upgrade.
Sure, MBP will get new chips 1st, absolutely.
If Siri is at the level as it is today, it will take a while before Apple’s AI will get up to any reliable level anyway. Enjoy being testpilot for Timmy if you get onboard for that 😉
Yea, everything should be 120 minimum. 60hz is ridiculous in this day and age.
Maybe for the entry MBP. I think the MBA stays with 8GB also for M4. The AI will run with 8GB cause the next iPhone will still have 8GB. And let's see what those on device AI features really bring.
You’re a little confused there and fudging with dates to try and make a point. The 13” M2 Air came out in July of 2022. They added 2 inches to the screen 11 months later with the 15”, then introduced a 13” and 15” M3 Air 9 months after that. So the M2 Air and M3 Air were technically nearly 2 years apart, just like the M1 before it in November 2020. All Apple did was add a new screen size for the Air with the 15”, so when they just announced the M3 in March, they released the 13” and 15” at the same time. Yes, “technically” they released two Airs less than a year apart, but not really. They just added a bigger screen size to the existing lineup.
Not confused 🙂
I suppose it just depends on how you view different sizes of Macs – as distinct releases or not.
Don't judge too early, wait for 20 May when Microsoft unveils the new Surface Pro on arm. One thing is certain: as the owner, you can upgrade the SSD yourself for a comparatively ridiculous amount compared to Apple!
Even if the new Surface devices are only at M2 level, I will seriously consider a switch.
Apple with its dirty and greedy upgrade prices for Macs can then continue to wonder why Mac sales are declining.
Mac sales aren’t declining. Their market share is actually increasing, while PCs saw the worst decline in history last year. Data doesn’t lie. Your feelings towards Apple are irrelevant. You may not like some of the decisions they’ve made lately, but they’re selling millions of Macs. They sold 4.8 million Macs in the first quarter of 2024. That’s more than the first quarter of 2023.
I see things as they are. I don’t twist data to fit a narrative.
Interested to see your source for what you mentioned about market share (presumably based on Mac hardware sales, not OS usage?). I haven't kept track of it over the last few years.
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Hopefully the M4 won't come with that nasty unpatchable flaw all the other M series chips have.
"... won't be as big of a performance improvement between M3 and M4 as there was between M2 and M3 because there's no change in node size, but we can still expect modest GPU and CPU speed boosts."
That doesn't sound promising, because my understanding is that there really was no boost between M2 and M3 either. PS I'm all about number crunching, FLOPS is the performance I care most about.
That doesn't sound promising, because my understanding is that there really was no boost between M2 and M3 either. PS I'm all about number crunching, FLOPS is the performance I care most about.