generik said:
at the start and end of each movie, you see Jobs doing a funny dance..
well worth the 20% tax
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at the start and end of each movie, you see Jobs doing a funny dance..
well worth the 20% tax
Multimedia said:
you forget that people pay for the convenience, just like how you get charged £1 or £2 just to withdraw money out of your own bank account from one of those mobile ATM's in pubs etc..
to go to video store, you have to leave the house, use some sort of transport and then get to the store.. all takes time and effort (ok, laziness).. in that time, you could of been streaming a movie from iTMS (or whatever it will be called).
i think they will nail any hardware/software issues down to a T - but i do think that the pricing is the key to it's success.
and also, make it available OUTSIDE THE US!!!
So, you have to pay for the film to watch it on TV, and pay again if you want to watch it on your iPod... That's stupid enough to be a genuine MPAA idea, I think he's telling the truth!
I hope this is wrong because I really want the next gen iPod to have wifi. The MS Zune has it, so it would be a disadvantage if Apple didn't.
Being able to wirelessly stream music to my airport express or listen to other people's iTunes librarys using an iPod is something I have always wanted to do since I got my first iPod back in 2004.
Being able to wirelessly stream music to my airport express or listen to other people's iTunes librarys using an iPod is something I have always wanted to do since I got my first iPod back in 2004.
OK, unless I've completely misunderstood this, haven't Apple got their naming all wrong? Surely the device which allows you to stream to TV's should be called AirTube, or AirVideos, or something like that? More in line with the AirTunes audio equivalent.
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Tube... thanks to the branding of YouTube I think internet videos have become synonymous with that website. Which is where I think the "leaker" is playing with us. It sounds credible with that name, but Apple don't want you to think YouTube, they want you to think iTunes, and of course to fit in with their Air products - AirTunes? It has been done.
An updated one is something I think we will see. Or even at all, I really can't see wireless video streaming taking hold. Maybe an AirTunes with a built in mini Hard Drive (Flash memory?) that caches a bit of a film and it can then be streamed via regular old WiFi, increasing the possible range?
All I know for sure is that when the Apple event is taking place I'll be down a cave somewhere.
An updated one is something I think we will see. Or even at all, I really can't see wireless video streaming taking hold. Maybe an AirTunes with a built in mini Hard Drive (Flash memory?) that caches a bit of a film and it can then be streamed via regular old WiFi, increasing the possible range?
All I know for sure is that when the Apple event is taking place I'll be down a cave somewhere.
Im not thrilled with the name or details, but I will say that I agree with iGary, this rumor seems pretty plausible.
A "proprietary" RF USB dongle to transmit video to the TV seems like the only way to go to deliver the dedicated bandwidth you need for video.
Only answer I didnt see was how you control tubeworm when you are seated at the TV. Noone wants to deal with a keyboard and mouse when you are trying to watch a movie.
A "proprietary" RF USB dongle to transmit video to the TV seems like the only way to go to deliver the dedicated bandwidth you need for video.
Only answer I didnt see was how you control tubeworm when you are seated at the TV. Noone wants to deal with a keyboard and mouse when you are trying to watch a movie.
If the iPhone were/is ready that would totally take the cake as a "just one more thing". The tubeport thing whilst really cool (especially if it has an ir port for my mac remote, or bluetooth to use a new ipod as a remote) seems a bit lame for that honour.
I thing the shuffle should be merged with the apple remote.... as an irrelevant side point.
I thing the shuffle should be merged with the apple remote.... as an irrelevant side point.
dongmin said:
No redundency there.
But people still have a habit of calling the television the "tube" as in "What's on the tube?"
TunePort (if it was true) could mean connect (port) to television (tube).
Somewhat doubtful though.
Besides the pricing structure is completely out of whack. Unless someone has to have a movie the day it's released on DVD, you can get them for in hand for $7 to $13. Who'd want to pay $20 for something you don't even own AND worse, runs through (possibly) iDisk? Bleh!
Chundles said:
First sorry about my english, about the universal Dock conector and analogue/Digital imputs i know about that, what i mean is:
-How about a USB cable beteween the iPod Hi-Fi and a computer, for sync the 2 devices, i think i'm not the only one who wants to use it as computer speaker and iPod dock (My table allow to put it in the top of my iMac and will never forget to turn off the speakers again)
-I just could keep always the iPod on the top of the iPod HI-FI to upload
new tracks into the iPod.
My Bussiness parthener got the iPod hi-fi for our Office and we are using this with the Air Mac Express (optical Cable) for air tunes only.
Why apple made this just thinking about portabillity but not connectivy!
My point is:
If apple will sell the TubePort (if this is true) why not make a complete device witch we can do all (plus Wach and record TV in the macs, stream, it to your (and control it from your) living room.
We Mac users don't have alot options of hardware like the Pcs guys, we depent too much of apple for a nice solution for ours need (with a nice integration, functions and easy to use...example: iLife, iPods).
Stevie Jobs know is time to allow macs to wacth and record TV (like the old Performas), this is the future of eletronics: Integration and mac are easy to use wil not be a nice deal? (for bussiness)
If you have a chance take a walk in the eletronic stores here in Japan.
You will see a lot of all in one computers (like the iMac with a nice desing too) with a display up to 62 inch and Win Media Center to use in your living room, some models alow to you tranfer recorded TV Shows automaticaly to your mobile Phone or AVP Players. (Do you have time to wacth all your favorite TV Show at home?)
If Apple will be into the full movies downloads bussiness why not make a device what can make ours life complete for audiovisual files.
If we compare the win. Media Centers with Macs now we are missing some stuffs, but Microsoft stuffs are no easy to use , Apple stuff are easy to use, Stevie Jobs is just missing a big bussiness chance out there.
We know if Apple lose the iPod Market this company will not be the same.
Still i have faith Apple will sell a complete sollution for ours living room, but if not this 2 last post is my comentary! (The iPod HI-FI stereo solution
and funny products events still in my mind, i was waiting for more Apple like: creative and innovative products)
New accessories:-
Tube "skins" for the 5G iPod, with a lanyard-similar price to nano's tubes
Lanyard headphones for 5G/6th gen
IR receiver, ready for Leopard-customizable programming,like a universal remote. Same remote as iMac's
Sports kit/travel for 6th Gen
User video sharing features-upload to YouTube or a new iTMS section for used created, original vodcasts/videos
BBC TV shows on the UK store-perhaps Seven or Ten (Nine Network is MS centric), here in Australia
iPod shuffle discontinued entirely
IR receiver-looks like a Apple USB modem for Mac and iPod control (e.g. for older Macs).
Section on iTMS for original user-submittable video content-a Apple YouTube type solution
TubePort-HDMI as Sony has various HDMI equipped products that would be good for iPod intergration.
Tube "skins" for the 5G iPod, with a lanyard-similar price to nano's tubes
Lanyard headphones for 5G/6th gen
IR receiver, ready for Leopard-customizable programming,like a universal remote. Same remote as iMac's
Sports kit/travel for 6th Gen
User video sharing features-upload to YouTube or a new iTMS section for used created, original vodcasts/videos
BBC TV shows on the UK store-perhaps Seven or Ten (Nine Network is MS centric), here in Australia
iPod shuffle discontinued entirely
IR receiver-looks like a Apple USB modem for Mac and iPod control (e.g. for older Macs).
Section on iTMS for original user-submittable video content-a Apple YouTube type solution
TubePort-HDMI as Sony has various HDMI equipped products that would be good for iPod intergration.
Well, that depends on what codec they're using. To put it bluntly, if it's not compressed small enough for 802.11g, how on Earth is anyone going to download content via their DSL or cable connection in anything like a reasonable amount of time, especially if, as rumoured (not just here but elsewhere) your movie will be "stored" on an iDisk and streamed to you in real time, rather than downloaded to your PC?Chundles said:
The only reason I can think of for them doing this is they want to dumb down the hardware and do all of the decoding (together with a significant amount of re-coding) on the Mac itself. That may get it to a lower price point, but when has Apple cared about prices above "just works" elegance and functionality? And would that price point really have been unachievable using off-the-shelf hardware given a DVD player that supports MPEG4 (disguised as WMV) generally costs under $50? Clearly hardware powerful enough to do the decoding at the TV end is cheap so why does it have to be done at the Mac end?
This looks like a kludge. Together with the other details such as the pricing of the service and lack of serious Nano updates, I hope the article is complete rubbish.
ddrueckhammer said:
Lots of people point out the desirability of wireless so you don't have to have your computer in close proximity to the TV, or alternately, the desire for a new hardware product (usually a version of a mac mini) with the form factor of an audio-video component so it could fit on the stack and stay on the stack.
It seems to me there's a simpler alternative that could sell a lot of units, and work for a lot of us, while facilitating the laptop-to-TV conundrum:
Wouldn't any of the apple laptops work as a temporary component-on-the-stack if apple simply offered a dock with an AC and s-video connection?
Yes, you'd have to carry your laptop to the tv setup; yes, people with desktop 'puters wouldn't be served by this solution. And yes, with only those two connections it's merely a more elegant version of ddrueckhammer's fix. But add to that little component the ability to control via the apple remote, and bingo: Wouldn't that be an accessory lots of us would want and use, especially at a time when apple laptops outsell apple desktops by what, 4 to 1?
I'm brainstorming here. Throw the necessary rocks at the idea. Or elaborate upon it.
I think this is pretty close to what we'll see...but I think it's more a guess of what's most likely than a leak.
TubePort? Terrible name, I doubt they'd go with that, at least I hope it's wrong.
I'm still skeptical that we'll see a full-on iPod with widescreen and especially bluetooth.
Otherwise, sounds about right. I think it will take a little bit to really "get" the new airport thing, but it should catch on in a big way. I'll probably buy one today if I can get my hands on it.
TubePort? Terrible name, I doubt they'd go with that, at least I hope it's wrong.
I'm still skeptical that we'll see a full-on iPod with widescreen and especially bluetooth.
Otherwise, sounds about right. I think it will take a little bit to really "get" the new airport thing, but it should catch on in a big way. I'll probably buy one today if I can get my hands on it.
Chundles said:
Your facts about the iPod Hi-Fi were useful and appropriate. The comment above was neither. Perhaps you were running back and forth to the barbie (what?) while reading it, and got distracted. I'd say, "right, mate?" but in my first language that doesn't translate quite right either.
Disclaimer: Loved your country and the people on my two visits.
Leemo said:
Don't forget what Variety reported:
"Daily Variety said Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs' unwillingness to price the downloadable videos as high as movie studios would have liked"
Although i'm sure he's motivated by a business plan, i'm surprised how many posts overlook the fact that Jobs is championing a consumer-oriented position. The easy route to getting an apple movie studio in place would be to simply price the movies higher -- the studios would agree, he'd have his content, and so would we, but with higher prices. Don't we have uniform 99 cent music downloads now (can't argue that THAT position has failed as a business plan OR that it's disserved consumers, can we?) instead of variable pricing with many tunes costing more because that's what the studios wanted?
I used to work in the factory outlet industry; price and quality were the key points, but it was price that distinguished it. Now we've got Jobs' "unwillingness to price the...videos as high as movie studios would have liked" (worth quoting twice!) and we're complaining? Consumers should be cheering his efforts. IMHO.
milozauckerman said:
Absolutely. Does it take you two hours to copy a DVD to a USB2 drive? Does it take you two hours to load an iPod with 2 gigs of data via USB2? Not even close.
rtdgoldfish said:
Because the .g version of airport isn't robust enough to handle HD, and the .n version isn't finalized yet? A proprietary solution would make sense, especially if they can do it this cheaply. I still think it's likely this is a hoax and the box is simply a new Airport.
yg17 said:
If cars really cost $12K, that's just a ripoff. Especially considering the fact that I rent one for $30 per day.
Here's a hint: APPLES <> ORANGES
dongmin said:
Well, there has to be *something* connected to the TV. This rumor just says that there will be a custom unit to send the video from the computer.
And it should be noted that this rumor doesn't say wireless USB, just that the units are connected via usb. That could be ANY transmission format, including a proprietary one.
When I saw this posted on Gizmodo it looked reasonably believable until I saw the "one more thing." The TubePort just doesn't grab me as being "one more thing" worthy. It's a freaking cable..and seems a bit unnecesary. In my experience as a Mac FanBoy, "one more thing" has always mean "here comes a product that is going to make you lust in your heart, head, and bones." Tubeport just bores me. Whoever wrote this should have stopped at the video iPod. Now get a movie to stream to my iPod on-demand and I might get a little more giddy.
Well I agree that new pods should have Bluetooth and not Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi sucks power, costs more, and an important point is that Bluetooth will soon be upgraded to be much faster and go much farther than before. Plus it works with a lot of AV stuff already like headsets, headphones, phones, and speakers.