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So we'll have to charge this thing on our computers instead of a typical AC connection?

Maybe those iPod AC adapter things will work, where the USB gets transfered to the outlet in the wall and only draws power.

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Anyone know what's the difference between the power/lock and sleep/wake controls?

I'm trying to visualize why you'd need the sleep/wake. Wouldn't it automatically sleep after a programmable amount of inactivity to conserve power, and then wake upon .... hmmm.. dunno. :confused:
 
I'm trying to visualize why you'd need the sleep/wake. Wouldn't it automatically sleep after a programmable amount of inactivity to conserve power, and then wake upon .... hmmm.. dunno. :confused:

sleep/wake just means on/off. they call it that to say that it takes no time to turn on and off. any other company would have called it on/off
 
Using Iphone Abroad??

Hey guys, can you help me?

i'm going to be lucky enough to get an iPhone as soon as it comes out, but then take it to Europe. Can anyone offer an ideas as to what will happen using it there? i mean, Cigular (AT&T) has partner service providers all over the world (Vodafone in UK), but my phone usually just adds itself to the nearest available network as i have international roaming. I assume browsing and stuff through the network won't work, but everything else should as normal no??

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And what did I hear about the Bluetooth being locked down? I use Bluetooth to transfer pics and ringtones from my Mac to my RAZR. Is this a no-go on the iPhone?
 
hey this is my first post on mr.com. ive been watching for a long time now and just decided to sign up!! go me woohoo.

anyway just wondering if australia will see the iphone ??? .. cauz celingular doesnt exist in aust, so yea.. what will happen to us guys!!!
 
Crack????

SIM tray means you are able to exchange SIM cards. Now I wonder how long until someone crack it to work with different providers. Week?? Two weeks???:rolleyes:

Cingular is the exclusive provider. No one said it wouldn't work with another carrier like T-Mobile. It can not work with Verizon, so I'm not sure what you mean by crack it. Do you mean simply insert a SIM from another GSM provider? Easy there big boy!
 
Cingular is the exclusive provider. No one said it wouldn't work with another carrier like T-Mobile. It can not work with Verizon, so I'm not sure what you mean by crack it. Do you mean simply insert a SIM from another GSM provider? Easy there big boy!

It's very easy for a manufacturer to lock a phone to a specific network. I have a couple of old phones that are locked to Orange in the UK. I recently tried sticking an O2 SIM in one: the phone refused to work.

It is possible to remove these locks, normally by re-flashing with a generic firmware. This is obviously only possible where the same device is used on multiple carriers or sold SIM free, otherwise non-locked firmware is not available. This will be the case with the iPhone: there will not be any non-locked firmware. So anyone who wants to unlock it will have to "crack" the firmware.
 
Bluetooth is Bluetooth.

If only it were that simple! Bluetooth relies on profiles. There is a profile for stereo music headphones, another for headsets, another for syncronising, another for modem usage, another for serial port access ... well you get the idea.

Most phone manufacturers (especially Sony-Ericsson) implement every single profile they can. But Apple could choose to only implement the headset or stereo headphone profile locking out all other usages. It seems unlikely given their promotion of the technology over the years but you never know...
 
If only it were that simple! Bluetooth relies on profiles. There is a profile for stereo music headphones, another for headsets, another for syncronising, another for modem usage, another for serial port access ... well you get the idea.

Most phone manufacturers (especially Sony-Ericsson) implement every single profile they can. But Apple could choose to only implement the headset or stereo headphone profile locking out all other usages. It seems unlikely given their promotion of the technology over the years but you never know...

Sorry...Let me rephrase.

No, Apple isn't implementing bluetooth only to be used for their own headset they have announced.

You can use a different headset, and do everything else that you would do with your Razr. Why people assume Apple will cripple their own hardware is beyond me.
 
It's very easy for a manufacturer to lock a phone to a specific network. I have a couple of old phones that are locked to Orange in the UK. I recently tried sticking an O2 SIM in one: the phone refused to work.

It is possible to remove these locks, normally by re-flashing with a generic firmware. This is obviously only possible where the same device is used on multiple carriers or sold SIM free, otherwise non-locked firmware is not available. This will be the case with the iPhone: there will not be any non-locked firmware. So anyone who wants to unlock it will have to "crack" the firmware.

Yes, It is easy to lock to a specific provider. But I have not heard that the iPhone would be locked at all. I have moved two phones to Cingular that were originally purchased from another provider.

Everyone seems to have assumptions (like locked down bluetooth) which have not been announced, or proven yet. Let's just wait 2 weeks and let it all play out.
 
Bluetooth is Bluetooth.

Now, according to Verizon, that statement isn't true. Verizon crippled the bluetooth ObEx on all their phones in order to force customers to use their "Get It Now" feature and charge. Verizon's initial position was that bluetooth wasn't a fully secure feature and "viruses" could be transmitted. When Verizon was called out on that blatant lie, they finally admitted it was a "business decision" that they had the right to enforce (basically screw over the customer). This resulted in a California based lawsuit "People of California v. Verizon" over the Motorola v710, as many customers purchased the phone were informed that all the features would be fully functional.

One of the reasons I switched to Cingular last year (besides the fact that Verizon's phone's and customer service are horrific) was due to Verizon's crippling of bluetooth features. With my RAZR on Cingular, I can download and upload ringtones, pictures and videos.
 
Cdma

CDMA is a dead end technology with only limited popularity in North America and Japan whereas GSM is available everywhere.

close but not quite:

- "GSM is available everywhere", correct.
- "CDMA is dead-end technology", not really:
* CDMA is the largest network in North America.
* Verizon and Sprint are the largest carriers in North America and only support CDMA. Together they are larger than all of the other GSM carriers in North America combined.
* CDMA is available in China and India as well. The CDMA market is taking off in those countries because the CDMA infrastructure can be (slightly) cheaper than GSM. So CDMA may become the world leader simply because nearly 1/2 the world's population live in those two countries.
* CDMA has higher data rates than GSM. GSM is promising to up their rates, but no cigar yet.

By the way, Nokia has a line of CDMA telephones that they sell in China and India that use SIM cards. The only reason we do not have SIM cards in North America is because Verizon and Sprint refuse to purchase those kinds of phones from telephone manufacturers. Can anyone guess why?!

J
 
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