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Apple's Next New iPhone to Debut in the Spring: What to Expect
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You're probably right about the other things, but I'd be surprised if Apple omitted MagSafe on the SE. MagSafe is a revenue source for Apple through selling MagSafe accessories (and MagSafe MFI licensing to third parties). Any savings they'd make by omitting MagSafe parts from the device would be peanuts compared to the average revenue they make from each device through selling accessories.
That assumes the SE's small size was a main selling point.
The iPhone SE was never a huge seller for Apple either, although still better than the minis, and whatever success it had can be attributed to factors beyond (and sometimes despite) its small size. The low price being a major one.
Other than the smaller size, what was the "catch" with the original iPhone SE?
The original iPhone SE started at $399 (around $530 in today's dollars) compared to starting prices of $649 (around $862 in today's dollars) for the iPhone 6S and $749 (around $994 in today's dollars) for the 6S Plus at the time. The SE and 6S models had same RAM, same chip, same 4G LTE, same Touch ID, single 12MP cameras, etc.
You don’t care. Fine. Meanwhile, Apple doesn’t care what you think. You‘re still not getting a Mini. Just like I won’t get another Plus. Time to move on.
This entire... ENTIRE forum is dedicated to people celebrating/discussing/whining about apple tech products. What are you even doing here?
Think iPhone 14 but with single rear camera sensor, A18 SoC, 8GB of RAM, USB Type C connector, Apple's new 5G modem and pricing of $549 for 128 GB and $649 for 256 GB of local storage.
The completely different design and smaller screen size was a huge differentiator. Nobody was going to confuse the original iPhone SE for an iPhone 6s.
It was sold alongside the SE.
There were two small phones.
A high-end small phone with horrible battery life had no market.
The SE was succesful.
You have no idea what you are talking about, nothing was disproven.
It’s getting more and more difficult to differentiate some models. This is almost exactly like an iPhone 16. Just with a notch instead of Dynamic Island.
I agree, Apple's market segmentation needs a serious revisit at least when it comes to iPhone.
Except the SE3 disproved like, all your points. New phone using parts no other iphone used at that point anymore.
Why would i pay $1000+ for a phone i cannot use on the go, only two handed when i sit down on my couch or behind my desk. Why would i use my phone when i have a tablet on the couch and two big screens on my desk?
This big phone craze came from a certain type of people that do everything on their phone, except what it was meant for. Smart people always prefer the right tool for the right job.
The SE3 is mostly the guts of an iPhone 13 in an iPhone 8 chassis, while it looks like the iPhone SE4 is mostly the guts of an iPhone 16 in an iPhone 14 chassis
The screen, the body, speakers, the camera, touch ID were all not used by any other iphone anymore. They only changed the processor and upped the battery capacity.
Furthermore: This was ALWAYS the case. They recycled out of date items from DISCONTINUED models. First from the iPhone 5s, later from the iPhone 8.
They have never in their history made an iphone SE from parts in use with current models. Only the processor was new.
Your theory is simply incorrect.
This is why these rumors make no sense. Nobody would buy an iphone 14,15,16 if they can get basically the same for half the price.
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Ok ... WE WANT THE MINI BACK! ... it is probably just 10 or 15% of us but that's more than some yearly improvements Apple report. We are holding our Mini12's and 13's in hope of something similar or just to have it longer.
Yes, I know all think this is not possible but ... worth the try! .... you won't believe how good it fits on your hand and pocket.
Yes, I know all think this is not possible but ... worth the try! .... you won't believe how good it fits on your hand and pocket.
And when your mini is eventually obsolete, Apple believes you will turn around and buy a bigger iPhone anyways. There isn’t a mini substitute readily available from any major phone manufacturer. Heck, Apple will use it as an opportunity to sell you a watch too. Apple does not believe that lack of a mini will make you switch to another brand
The best chance (which is still unlikely) to have apple make a new mini is if Samsung make one and it was successful. But this has worked [yet] to encourage Apple to make a foldable phone
Many SE/mini users buy an iphone because of the size, not because of iOS. I for one endure the message and widget center mess just because there are no alternatives in android land. And I'm not the only one.
Without a small iphone option, i would just return to the smallest available option in android land.
One thing to note is that the 12 Mini came out during COVID. Millions of people who would have viewed the phone in a store were not allowed to leave their house.
YouTube influencers push the pro models and didn’t have many positive things to mention about the 12 Mini.
Carrier deals are likely the biggest marketing for the Pros (and the most profitable) so carriers neglected the Mini model.
Let me know what you find.
When I last checked Samsung & Google, except for folding phones they offered phones no smaller than iPhones with a 6.1” display. I’m in the US, so Chinese phones are not practical, unfortunately. I found a couple smaller android phones but they were from companies I never of before (been there, done that, got burned and learned my lesson)
Probably, yes. Especially since the 14 can’t do AI. Apple wants all of its devices going forward to be able to do that.