Hard pivot? Seriously? That's funny!
Enterprise has been in Apple’s plan since the day AVP was conceived.
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Hard pivot? Seriously? That's funny!
Enterprise has been in Apple’s plan since the day AVP was conceived.
But again, that is NOT how Apple marketed it then or now. They continue to position it as a consumer facing product, not an enterprise device. That’s why Tim’s sudden shift to enterprise is so blatant. Clearly this is the plan B contingency for Vision.
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Nope. This is just the Apple statement that’s in question. If you search for KLM and Vision you get plenty of links to their use of OTHER AR/VR headsets but no mention of the Vision Pro specifically.
Too expensive as a consumer gimmick anyway. There’ll be a Vision (not Pro) at sometime and that will be for the masses.
Not according to their own marketing. Rationalization is fine but the real world doesn’t work like that.
Have not seen much of the marketing, but what does it say and where ?
I suspect the mechanics are using it as a ebook Reader, like air plane pilots using iPads, and not having custom Spatial computing apps made for use.2:19
Apple Reports 2Q 2024 Results: $23.6B Profit on $90.8B Revenue
Apple today announced financial results for the second fiscal quarter of 2024, which corresponds to the first calendar quarter of the year. For the...
The real world:
It seems you're not aware that Apple marketing engages with business/commercial and government accounts and customers that is totally separate from how Apple markets to consumers, that the public never sees.
I didn’t see Tim report on the number of M2 Mac Pro’s Apple sold last year.
I’m guessing sales spiked and reached in to double digits for total units.
I’m guessing sales spiked and reached in to double digits for total units.
You should really be a more careful reader. I didn’t make the claim. So no, it’s not my job.
You readily jumped in with the standard dodge so no, it doesn’t really matter that you didn’t make the initial claim. You subscribed to it by making that comment. So again, it isn’t on me to prove the claims you or anyone else makes. It’s on the claimant.
Not a "standard dodge" at all. Think of it along the lines of the old "give a man a fish... teach a man to fish" saying.
But if you really need some handholding to go through the notoriously difficult act of typing KLM vision pro into a search engine, I've done the work for you.
5 businesses proving the Apple Vision Pro is breathing new life into the enterprise
Beyond consumers, Apple's space-bending headset is becoming the key to unlocking new ways and opportunities for businesses to optimize workflows.
www.zdnet.com
One example of many that I easily, quickly, found. Sorry I couldn't teach you to fish.
Not a "standard dodge" at all. Think of it along the lines of the old "give a man a fish... teach a man to fish" saying.
But if you really need some handholding to go through the notoriously difficult act of typing KLM vision pro into a search engine, I've done the work for you.
5 businesses proving the Apple Vision Pro is breathing new life into the enterprise
Beyond consumers, Apple's space-bending headset is becoming the key to unlocking new ways and opportunities for businesses to optimize workflows.
One example of many that I easily, quickly, found. Sorry I couldn't teach you to fish.
And that's soon to be the tip of the iceberg. So many commercial/medical/architectural/educational/military/retail/research/etc. potential uses.
Takes just a wee bit imagination. Apple will go far in those spaces.
Share buybacks: It's usually perceived as a positive indicator for a company. After a buyback, share prices usually increase.
All hearsay, every link goes back to apple PR making the claim enterprise businesses are using vision pro, with no details of what spatial apps, just leaving the details to readers imagination.Not a "standard dodge" at all. Think of it along the lines of the old "give a man a fish... teach a man to fish" saying.
But if you really need some handholding to go through the notoriously difficult act of typing KLM vision pro into a search engine, I've done the work for you.
5 businesses proving the Apple Vision Pro is breathing new life into the enterprise
Beyond consumers, Apple's space-bending headset is becoming the key to unlocking new ways and opportunities for businesses to optimize workflows.
One example of many that I easily, quickly, found. Sorry I couldn't teach you to fish.
The ability to see what you want to see and dismiss everything else is amazing.
You ask for a reference, and they point you to the statement, only for you to dismiss it by implying that Apple lied about KLM using the Vision Pro on a public investment call.
You say that Tim telling investors that companies are using the Vision Pro is evidence of a pivot to enterprise when we have evidence as recent as the 1.1 update that enterprise has always been part of the plan. But because you dont understand how B2B sales work, you believe that Apple has never been interested in enterprise (despite selling the iPhone B2B since 2008).
Of course, you believe an analyst who provided three sets of conflicting numbers about how many can actually be made and what Apple “projected” for sales because the thought of no sales fits your narrative. How accurate were his iPhone China sales predictions?
I think of it like the Watch pivot from phone sidekick to health device. They’re just re-aiming it at where it’s popular.
Apple has been buying back stocks since at least 2014.
And you follow all their institutional, industrial, and medical marketing, do you? Follow Apple reps around?
Enterprise was always in their plans, to think otherwise is ludicrous.
What's also interesting is that he notes growth in China, which goes against the narrative that the iPhone is losing to Huawei (and violates the broader narrative that Apple is getting less innovative over time).
As a general rule of thumb, I think many people here are too eager to buy into negative news surround Apple because it gives them an outlet to vent about every bugbear they have had with Apple so far, regardless of accuracy. I would advise everyone here not to bet against Apple too much. Such negativity rarely ever works out in their favour in the long run.
As a general rule of thumb, I think many people here are too eager to buy into negative news surround Apple because it gives them an outlet to vent about every bugbear they have had with Apple so far, regardless of accuracy. I would advise everyone here not to bet against Apple too much. Such negativity rarely ever works out in their favour in the long run.
It is a dodge.
Hand holding is not the issue. Snotty directives to “google it” is.
5 businesses proving the Apple Vision Pro is breathing new life into the enterprise
Beyond consumers, Apple's space-bending headset is becoming the key to unlocking new ways and opportunities for businesses to optimize workflows.
One example of many that I easily, quickly, found. Sorry I couldn't teach you to fish.
Now that wasn’t so hard, was it? Now you know how basic debate works. I’m not obligated to prove or document claims made by other people.
You’re welcome.
So you think they’re marketing it in secret. That’s not a rationalization at all.