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Apple's Work on Touchscreen Macs: What We Know So Far
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Using a Dell 2-in-1 (with OLED), I am okay with this! Apple would have 13 year’s worth of R&D based off Windows products and their own iPad division
you use it for web and office work. not for creativity with a pen.
Looks good. When you combine these rumors we’ve been hearing including the one about a much larger screen iPad, it does make me wonder if they are planning on the move. Could this be a separate product from the iPad?
With the advancements we are seeing in Apple Silicon, I think it is inevitable that at some point we will see an iPad running macOS (though it may not be called an iPad). For simplicity, they could go back to developing iOS for iPhone/iPad and macOS for Mac/iPad Pro, and not have a separate iPadOS. Maybe the iPad Pro gets the option to run iOS or macOS?
I was thinking “macPad” might be a cool name, but it is already in use — Mid-Atlantic Connection for PKU and Allied Disorders 😲
i agree on the workflow basis, it is PIA. I have no problem using Pro Apps on a 13" macbook air. i shouldn't be a problem to do the same on a 13" iPad with M processor and enough RAM. just replace mouse buy Pen. and make MacOS work on iPads.
It seems inevitable at this point. The iPad is increasingly being used with keyboards and pointers and now the Mac is gaining a touchscreen. Developing 2 separate OS’s that have such similar use cases just doesn’t make any sense.
And I do wonder if the new Classical app hints at changes afoot given it has no iPad or Mac app. Why develop 2 separate apps if the systems will merge soon. Maybe an upcoming announcement at WWDC?
and Steve Jobs was idiot not to add the pen from the start.
if it runs MacOS and not productive criplleware. you only use it for web, youtube, and office stuff.
Reading the thread i can see that apples are mixed with oranges.
people disagree a lot because of different usage.
i won't speak about what is best for apple sales, because it is obvious they want to sell you 2 devices.
As a creative using wacom tablets for 20 years and never using a mouse. i give you my input.
A touch based Macbook might be a bad idea unless you can separate the screen and the other half would just be a keyboard.
Best solution is to make an iPad that runs MacOS. and it is obviously possible as all new devices run on same SOC.
IOS sucks for productive work and the software is not there for some. look at Photoshop for ipad. it is way under the desktop model. only good because of pencil functionality.
Let it run MacOS and lot of productive apps will be there without being crippled.
As a creative a keyboard is not really important, The touch keyboard is fine and if you need space make a small keyboard window as you have on iphones. just add option, and command keys. waiting for 2 inputs or 3 if there is a shift after the first.
Regarding device aspect ratio i would like a square iPad. 13 or 14 inch would be ideal. More height is ideal to place a touch keyboard at will. perfect for webpages and you won't need to rotate the device for landscape or portrait stuff.
that's my two cents. Apple get creative again !
people disagree a lot because of different usage.
i won't speak about what is best for apple sales, because it is obvious they want to sell you 2 devices.
As a creative using wacom tablets for 20 years and never using a mouse. i give you my input.
A touch based Macbook might be a bad idea unless you can separate the screen and the other half would just be a keyboard.
Best solution is to make an iPad that runs MacOS. and it is obviously possible as all new devices run on same SOC.
IOS sucks for productive work and the software is not there for some. look at Photoshop for ipad. it is way under the desktop model. only good because of pencil functionality.
Let it run MacOS and lot of productive apps will be there without being crippled.
As a creative a keyboard is not really important, The touch keyboard is fine and if you need space make a small keyboard window as you have on iphones. just add option, and command keys. waiting for 2 inputs or 3 if there is a shift after the first.
Regarding device aspect ratio i would like a square iPad. 13 or 14 inch would be ideal. More height is ideal to place a touch keyboard at will. perfect for webpages and you won't need to rotate the device for landscape or portrait stuff.
that's my two cents. Apple get creative again !
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I have had it on a few Dell's and I usually disable it soon after getting it. I accidentally touch the screen while typing and it moves the cursor. A better option would be to enable pen support on the trackpad. I don't see a need for this unless it is a convertible system, then it works.
You think what's keeping iPad from running pro apps or more mac like abilities are lack of cpu power? Wrong, it's the lack of courage. Apple doesn't want to cannibalize mac sales.
Or...they are on their way to developing a truly enterprise workstation class OS with touchscreens and not just a bastardization of the two, like Windows is
I do not want a conflated OS, i.e. macOS and iPadOS mushed together. That sounds like a train wreck to me. Rather, I'd like to see an Apple compute product that offers the Apple Silicon equivalent of Bootcamp - a dual boot machine that runs either full-on macOS *or* full-on iPadOS (but not concurrently and, hopefully, with a more "evolved" iPadOS). There was a glimmer of hope when the first AS M processor-equipped Apple laptops were released, as the first M-class CPUs were based on Apple's A-series iPhone and iPad SOCs. Now, we have M-series chips powering both iPad Pros *and* MacBook Pros. Would it be nice to have both OSs run concurrently in separate partitions? Sure. (this would require additional hardware...) Would it be nice if either iPadOS or macOS could be instantiated in a virtual machine running under the "other" OS? (Analagous to running a Win7 64-bit VM under a Fusion or Parallels hypervisor in the days of Intel silicon Macs?) Yes! But, I'd settle for booting up one or the other. I'd have the unadulterated - pure - experience of each in turn.
The inevitable question - "Why?" - will be raised. I travel a lot. Imagine for a moment that instead of taking one or the other of my MBP or iPad Pro, I could throw a single device in the bag.
This machine would look, I imagine, pretty much like an iPad Pro with keyboard/stand attached when macOS was running. Think of it running macOS Ventura (and successors) and, later that day, if need be, running iPadOS 16 (and successors).
I have a 12.9" iPad Pro and it ain't light. I also have an ancient 15" rMBP and it ain't light, either. What would the weight savings be? Hmmm. What would the cost advantage of such a machine be vs. purchasing both an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro. Again, Hmmm. I don't know the answers to those questions, but there is a lot of expensive parts *duplication* (processor, memory, display panel and supporting electronics, etc, etc.) that would go away in this "integrated" dual boot machine.
I would look carefully at the machine I describe here if Apple were to release it.
The inevitable question - "Why?" - will be raised. I travel a lot. Imagine for a moment that instead of taking one or the other of my MBP or iPad Pro, I could throw a single device in the bag.
This machine would look, I imagine, pretty much like an iPad Pro with keyboard/stand attached when macOS was running. Think of it running macOS Ventura (and successors) and, later that day, if need be, running iPadOS 16 (and successors).
I have a 12.9" iPad Pro and it ain't light. I also have an ancient 15" rMBP and it ain't light, either. What would the weight savings be? Hmmm. What would the cost advantage of such a machine be vs. purchasing both an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro. Again, Hmmm. I don't know the answers to those questions, but there is a lot of expensive parts *duplication* (processor, memory, display panel and supporting electronics, etc, etc.) that would go away in this "integrated" dual boot machine.
I would look carefully at the machine I describe here if Apple were to release it.
At first I thought the same: make macos run on ipad pros and call it a day.
But maybe apple aims to give you touchscreen on the bigger end models as well. Then you’ll truly need only one device.
I'd buy this immediately.............Get rid of my old MacBook and 1st gen iPad Pro.
I'd have no need to buy two machines again. My tech life would be so much easier...
Apple needs to drop its arbitrary and forced wall between the iPad and MacBooks......... They would move into the current decade.....
