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So none of you hand down your phones ... you just trade them in? Our phones could have a life of about 5-7 years within the family.
We were going to hand down my fiancée’s 13 Pro to her 15 year old son this week. After going to add a line on at AT&T for it, they pointed out that he could get a 15 Pro for free by trading in the 13 Pro. Plus we can get AppleCare on it as it has run out on the 13 Pro. That’s a pretty easy decision.
 
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We were going to hand down my fiancée’s 13 Pro to her 15 year old son this week. After going to add a line on at AT&T for it, they pointed out that he could get a 15 Pro for free by trading in the 13 Pro. Plus we can get AppleCare on it as it has run out on the 13 Pro. That’s a pretty easy decision.
Trust me, being locked into a 3 year contract with AT&T is not an easy decision as it might look like in hindsight. Watch out for the rep cramming your new line with unwanted monthly add-ons. That's just one of many annoyances.
 
Trust me, being locked into a 3 year contract with AT&T is not an easy decision as it might look like in hindsight. Watch out for the rep cramming your new line with unwanted monthly add-ons. That's just one of many annoyances.
This. But, like me, maybe the only major provider in their area is AT&T so they really don’t have a choice.

I’m sure whoever is receiving the phone comes out ahead by refurbishing/reselling it, using it as a warranty replacement, or just recycling it outright.
 
Why does everyone obsess over this? I charge my phone when I feel it needs it. Or if I’m gonna need the boost to get through the rest of the day. Phone goes on charger at night. Charge to 100% every night. Never had the battery health fall below 98%.
Because some of us haven’t experienced the same thing? My 14 Pro Max is down to 86%!
 
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Just curious, are you using this setting. I’ll try and if I can make it though the day I’ll use it. My surface pro 8 has this feature and is still showing over actual capacity over design capacity, so I’m inclined to try it in the iPhone. What do others think?

No, I don't, as I wouldn't make it through the day without recharging.
 
What a waste of money and consumable environmental resources.

Whether replacing a phone every year is a waste of money is purely subjective. I replace mine every year, it has become like a hobby and I just like it. Is playing golf or buying a fancy car a waste of money too? Probably. But I do love replacing my electronic gadgets often.

Also, old iPhones don't get thrown in the landfill, they get passed on to people whose phones are dying.
 
I'm using it on mine. I also have a Samsung phone where I enabled the option to limit the charge to 85% (pretty sure Apple copied the idea from Samsung). If I find I need more charge during the day, or if I travel, then I'll take the setting off -- but at this point I use less than 80% a day. I also plan on keeping this phone for a few years.
 
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Wow, I never knew how much effort and time some people put into something that costs less than 100 bucks to replace... :oops:

Regarding the OP: no, I just charge and use my phone without any thoughts regarding battery life. I'd much rather have it replaced when it's done than worrying about it constantly. To each their own, I guess.

Also I usually use MagSafe together with the 140W charger of the MacBook Pro and the battery health of my launch day 14 Pro is at 98%, so it doesn't seem to have that big of an impact anyway. :)
 
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Not really. Since my phone always goes to family, I'd rather they have a decent device at the end of the year of use.
I'm sure it will be just fine after only one year of use. My father still has a phone that I gave him 4 years ago and he's never off it. I'm sure the SOT has diminished since I last used it but he still only charges it on an evening.
 
Apple and Samsung (plus the others no doubt) having the gall to give us settings to 'protect' our batteries when they design these expensive devices with glued in, sealed-in batteries. :rolleyes:

How about removing the issue and resultant anxiety by giving us easily replaceable batteries, you know like in the old days! All it would take is a cover with a rubber seal on it! The manufacturers can't have that though can they. Worn batteries are one more reason for us to upgrade to a new device.
 
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For now I have selected this option. I'm not far away from a rapid charger or trickle charger and I like the ability to keep my battery at it's best. I have read that even with Apple people changing the batteries its a mixed bag if they will seal the handset well enough to retain the water resistance so....an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure. :)
 
If you look at it this way:

In order to not let my battery health get below 80, I'll just use 80.

Doesn't this defeat the purpose
No cause you can have the 100% if you need it. Many don’t need 100% on a daily basis. But when traveling etc 100% is needed. So why degrading the battery for nothing?
 
$99 to get official battery replacement from apple retail store. So I don’t think it’s worth it keep battery charge limited to 80%.

I will play with the 80 percent charge for a few days but it’s not essential for most of us.

I upgrade every year. So even though my iPhone 14 pro max went down to 89% capacity it didn’t matter. My iPhone 13 Pro Max was 91% capacity after 12 months. My iPhone 12 Pro was 87% capacity after 12 months.

But get this. My son iPhone 11 which he had for 3 full years went to 90% first year. Than 86% second year. 83% end of third year. So it lasts a long time. The first year is the year your battery will degrade the most.

It’s like my Tesla model y. I freaked out when I lost 10% charging. Of course Tesla battery is much different. I do charge Tesla to 90%. But I’m on year 3 of Tesla and charging capacity is down only 11.5%.
 
But get this. My son iPhone 11 which he had for 3 full years went to 90% first year. Than 86% second year. 83% end of third year. So it lasts a long time. The first year is the year your battery will degrade the most.

I kinda feel like Apple’s faking the 2nd and 3rd year. Usually, by the time my phone reaches 86% health, I’d need to charge twice a day at that point even with the phone mostly on standby (iPhone SE).
 
If I reduced my charge to limit it to 80% then I'm going to be charging my phone more often. This goes against the grain when trying to protect the battery. Guys that charge when their battery reaches 40 or 50% and take it off the charger at 80% are getting far too OCD about this in my opinion. I mean come on, you're massively and ridiculously crippling your phone's capabilities.

Long battery life is one of the best features on new phones so this kind of behaviour baffles me. Like I said in an earlier post, I blame the manufacturers for this. With their sealed in batteries nonsense they've created a whole new illness called battery anxiety. Manufacturing thousand dollar+ devices with a sealed in, glued in battery where you have to practically destroy the device in order to replace what is to the manufacturer a $10 item should be made a criminal offence. We should be able to replace these batteries twice yearly if we wish and not have to pay $99 a time either, running the risk of getting a 'service unit' too. Heck we should be grateful at least that Apple offer this service, Samsung and the others don't!
 
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