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Proton is wonderful ain't it? Because of it, at least 75% of my game library worked out the gate. Fallout 4 was a bear however. It wouldn't even launch the launcher at all. went from 'running' to 'play' instantly. Then after spitting out tons of lines into Terminal, it lauched, I had great graphics, and cinematic audio, but otherwise zero sound. That one required a bit more effort. Works better than in Windows though.

I have struggled with a lot of older games though, such as Farming Simulator 13 (loads and appears to run but no video) Half Life 2 (insta-crash, too old?) and a few others. I managed to get at least 99% there though. Not sure how I'm supposed to get and play Sims 4 as it doesn't seem to be available on Steam. Not only does my gaming rig lack a CD-ROM drive, but I don't see a physical copy anywhere.
 
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Not the person you asked, but we switched to the new Garmin Forerunner LTE. Just as good as Apple Watch for activity tracking. It took a bit to change our thinking from "closing our rings" and "getting our calorie goals" vs just exercising and sticking to our daily exercise routines.

Notifications work, but you can't respond to messages as they come in. It's been nice being slightly more disconnected, to be honest.

But… I love closing my rings. It’s a lovely metaphor.
What about timers and other things? I use my Apple Watch like it’s just another iPhone. Apple Music, etc.
 
Galaxy Watch 3 does a great job of copying the rings, only in a rather cute heart-shaped widget. they're quadrants of a heart for calories (basically your move ring), Stand hours (stand ring) and exercise minutes (workout ring). You even get a nice animation similar to Apple when it's all filled.

I find Samsung Health much nicer than Apple Health, it's got a decent UI that's whimsical, harking to the Nature UX era of Samsung. It also has neat interactive graphical 'maps' for global challenges.

If there's one thing really missing from the Galaxy Watch, it's a 'radio' app. At one time, Milk Music, powered by Slacker was a thing, but for some asinine reason Samsung kill't it. Now all you get is Spotify, which doesn't even integrate with rotating bezel. Limited compared with Apple's playlists such as decades or Chill or so on. It works more like Pandora. It will play offline content off the watch unlike its WearOS version, though.

Everything else appears to work much the same, although I am more fond of a round display and how Samsung made the UI work with it. Timers are available, it's an app you have to seperately install (from Galaxy Store) along with Alarm, Stopwatch, even an internet browser. Bixby is at least on par with Siri for better or worse, but it can do things Siri fails at, such as turning water lock mode on or contextual commands such as launching Galaxy Store and installing an app.
 
hmm....have you checked out NextCloud? They seem to have some automatic backup options as well.
I certainly don’t do it manually with Synology, and I replaced everything other than Contacts simply to see the name in IOS, maybe I need a cheap android phone to play with………. Could solve that by asking family and mates to use WhatsApp or Signal, but we all use iMessage and FaceTime. I have no issue using them, I’ve just migrated my dats which for me is good enough.
 
I don't need automatic backups. I'm used to what I got. I don't want my NAS connected to the internet for privacy and security reasons, anyway.
 
Does Linux Mint at least look like XP/7? I'm having trouble finding that skeuomorphic distro I'm looking for. I am currently running Deepin, which looks like an amalgamation of Windows 11 and Big Sur, but it's overall a flat UI (but it at least has a skeuo icon pack for what it's worth!). It isn't hard to switch distros, since not much goes on on my laptop except seeing YouTube and this site.
Linux Mint doesn't look like XP out of the box, but I have found it the easiest to theme to look and feel like XP. It includes a bunch of themes which can get me 80% of the way there. The distro closest to XP out of the box and has skeuomorphic components would be Q4OS.
 
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The whole "pick a different distro" to me is confusung. Is there an equivalent for Mac users? Maybe because I'm mixing "OS" with "distro".

It just sounds to me like "Pick a Mac if you're a beginner, Windows if you want more programs, and Linux if you like to tinker". These are big decisions we're talking about in that case!! Maybe "distro" isn't as big a deal but seems like it.
The difference between Linux distros basically comes down to what it looks like out of the box. Functionally speaking, nearly all distros can run the same apps. It is possible to make one distro look like another by customizing it.

So when I recommend different distros for different preferences, it is because those distros are closest to those particular preferences out of the box... then there only minor adjustments necessary for the person to feel comfortable.
 
I certainly don’t do it manually with Synology, and I replaced everything other than Contacts simply to see the name in IOS, maybe I need a cheap android phone to play with………. Could solve that by asking family and mates to use WhatsApp or Signal, but we all use iMessage and FaceTime. I have no issue using them, I’ve just migrated my dats which for me is good enough.
Nice thing about iMessage is that when you turn it off, it just reverts to SMS. I think Signal does the same on Android, but I don’t have experience with this. Facetime is a harder one to replace. I’ve had little success in Telegram actually working for this, though messages and audio messages work amazingly well (my favorite method of communication).

Some apps are able to automatically back up the library. Nextcloud, Dropbox, Sandisk Ibi, and WD MyCloud all do this.
 
Robin is a free open source (as far as I am aware) alternative to Siri, or the Google Assistant. It dates back to Android 2.3 in its oldest version (no longer working) when Android had no such feature. Robin is pretty basic, but it can open apps, control wifi or bluetooth, and tell jokes. It's about as on par with Siri on the old 4S. But Bixby is more capable today so I often use that. So far the only use of Robin is as a backup if Bixby is not working, or to use the floating button it has to cover up the little 'n' badges in apps that have new updates available so it doesn't bug me.

As for my NAS, I built it back in 2013. I had my first iPhone (3GS and a 4 later on) before it was neccessary. I did toy with Android, from 2.1 onwards, but was quite fond of 2.3, even if the hardware of the time was super-lacking (256MB RAM, anyone?) The Custom ROM scene was more fun too at that time. Far more could be messed with when Xposed existed. But I didn't fully commit to Android until iOS 7 made the iPhone and my iPad look like crap (I hate flat design! I was there in the 80s! Besides, the UI of the 3GS amazed me). If I had kept the 3GS I'd have probably been better off.

But in 2013 I got a Galaxy SIII, only one year old at that time, and it had decent hardware compared to those Gingerbread counterparts. 2GB RAM, a quad core CPU, and more internal storage. It also had a rather nature-inspired skeuomorphic UI, and its own voice assistant (S-Voice) far more capable than Google Now which at that time couldn't even control wifi or volume. Got about as much hate as Bixby though.

So when I built the NAS shortly after, I backed up all the APKs from my rooted LG Optimus V (running Android 2.3) and my tablet (Coby Kyros MID7015, running Android 2.1) and sideloaded them to the SIII, but tended to at least then use the Samsung apps in place of Google as they did far more and looked better to me.

I then upgraded to the S4, which had a full-HD screen, IR blaster, and 32GB storage, and it had a similar UI and felt like a proper upgrade. Then to a Note 3 and Galaxy Gear, then Gear 2, then Gear S2, S3 Classic, and Gear S (and a Samsung Galaxy S5).

I was quite fond of Samsung until they too, caved to flat design starting in Android 5, and glass sandwiches such as the S6. I went back to Apple more recently with a 6S, and my old apps were still available from the Purchased list on the App store so not much flat UI there, but I quickly filled it up storage wise and then went back to an HTC Thunderbolt, then LG Stylo 5, then my current S20 FE.

The only things I could get from my NAS to my iPhones then were music and photos, since I'd just fire up iTunes on a Windows PC, connect to the Samba share on my NAS, and transfer files that way, then sync with iTunes. So the music on my iPhone as well as my later and current phones has only changed with any new purchases from Amazon (in MP3, DRM-free format). That way I can use whatever brand or version of music app I want. Not tied to any subscriptions.
Linux Mint is close to how Windows XP is laid out. I think they started flattening the UI, but you can still switch to classic icons. I do miss how iOS 3 looked. The weather app was beautiful.

My Galaxy S3 was one of my favorite phones until 4.3 nerfed it. My replacement was a Droid Turbo that I never updated. It still runs 4.4.4.

I’ll have to check out Robin.

One of the things I’m most looking forward to switching to Android is being able to freely sync my music and play with whichever app I want.
 
Linux Mint doesn't look like XP out of the box, but I have found it the easiest to theme to look and feel like XP. It includes a bunch of themes which can get me 80% of the way there. The distro closest to XP out of the box and has skeuomorphic components would be Q4OS.
I'll look into that, thanks. I used to love PearOS (Which became Elementary OS) but after it turned into Elementary they took too much skeuo from it. PearOS looked pretty identical to Mac OS X Lion.

Damn. I looked at their site and it resembles Windows 10 more than 7. I guess all the good distros cater to the flat UI bandwagon as usual. Still prefer Linux over anything else though.

I can't believe flat UI is still trendy. It's been 8 years!
 
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And besides, this company is starting to get weird to me now anyways, almost exactly like the Simpsons parody of them (Apple Card? Apple Fitness? TV shows? WTF?). It's like they need to be everything to everyone now, to swallow you up into the Apple Way. If I wanted iPadOS, I wouldn't be on a Mac.

For Mac users, I very strongly recommend Fedora as the most Mac-like distro in principle, and they seem to take special consideration for making their distro installable on Mac hardware that other distros do not (most don't even boot on touch bar Macs). Fedora also offers the most stock Gnome desktop experience there is
. You could say similar things about Arch, but I would rather work on content and not on the OS itself.

Anyways, I haven't been this excited about computing since I switched to Mac 17 years ago. It's like a third renaissance to me, the next reawakening post-Apple. I'm having a ridiculous amount of fun exploring the Linux world, I've replaced all my productivity and development workflows with equivalent software (I do miss Logic),
and the most shocking thing to me is just how far game compatibility has advanced on Linux thanks to Steam's Proton.

This feels like the future!". Ugh, no.

Just highlighted some of your thoughts that I completely agree with. This is not Apple that I an many other professionals loved and cherished for unix underpinnings, HIG (Human Interface Guidelines) and focus on usability and professional UI. For those who are new to this, I recommend taking a look at interface of old Logic and Soundtrack Pro.

Minimalistic UI with balanced contrast and clear differentiation of buttons and functions.

Apple started loosing ground when decided to go Metro UI/Flat interface, from Microsoft (WTF), only a person who hates UI (J.Ive) can hate skeuomorphism.
Then Tim Apple - the master of the Excel and exploitation pushed product people aside and moved company decision only on market expansion and greed.
Some will argue that his work is good for Apple. But which Apple? Apple as a brand of services, Apple as an entertainment company, Apple as a bank, Apple as a car maker or Apple as police and gateway for user control with political agenda and blatant marketing tricks?


For me all started when MacOS X became free. This was the red light. Then Apple started introducing telemetry for everything. Basically the only reason to use MacOS after this was Little Snitch in alert mode. The regular mac users have no idea how intrusive is this callback to mothership integration.

The big scandal over removing access of LS for the kernel and new functionality in BigSur(veillance) which hides Apple Telemetry from VPN was another red flag not to upgrade from Catalina. So basically Apple is removing technically educated Apple users. They don't need us. We know better, we know how macOS, iOS and iPadOS woks and for Apple we are hard to please audience. They need cult followers who are ready to buy anything without question and greedy developers who don't care about user privacy but will share the profit wit Apple.


It is ugly and disgusting beyond believe. And the final straw is this CSAM backdoor, which they will include in macOS, WTF.


P.S. Try BitWig studio (https://www.bitwig.com/). It is not Logic, but works on all desktop platforms.
 
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Everyone (except Linux devs) are catering to the lowest common denominator these days. Easier to lead along the ignorant. We smart folks are obsolete. I know, it makes zero sense to me as well. When things started getting idiot proof (GFCI outlets, lowering the standards for getting a driver's license, laws to protect everyone from themselves, etc) Darwin couldn't keep the gene pool strong. We got a ton of idiots breeding and now they're the mainstream audience.

The writing on the wall was getting clearer when people stopped reading manuals for their new PC, or stove, television or when they stopped teaching their children basic repair/maintenance skills. We got a lot of folks who make signs who can't even spell (my neighborhood is called 'Thorobred Crossing' they spelled "Thoroughbred" wrong)
 
We are not obsolete. We are pushed temporary out of the picture, because the uneducated and lazy masses are loving to hate what they don't want to understand.
But as an individual who has lived under communistic regime I have a solid training in this propaganda and manufactured consent ********.

I can assure you, every system designed to oppress with "good intention" will eventually fail. It is inevitable. The oppressors this time will have some automation, but they cant remove the human factor. And in this failing the all cheerful masses are hopeless and willing to give anything to the smart ones for advice or some form of protection and solution.

In my first encounter with this phenomenon I was generous and forgiving. If I am alive when all this nonsense crumbles this time I will collect. Without remorse.
 
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It took well over 60 years for the Soviet Union to fall. God help us if it takes that long for this mess to ultimately go away.
 
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It took well over 60 years for the Soviet Union to fall. God help us if it takes that long for this mess to ultimately go away.
The difference now is the technology, in the information age things are faster. 60 is today's world is more like 20:).
 
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PC Linux OS, if still available, was pretty close to Windows, from a visual standpoint.
 
Here's a quick screenshot of Linux Mint 20 themed to look like Win XP. It took me about 3 minutes and a few commands in a terminal window. This was just a quick example of what can be done with Linux. There are a few tweaks that could be made to make things look cleaner and neater....
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Here's a quick screenshot of Linux Mint 20 themed to look like Win XP. It took me about 3 minutes and a few commands in a terminal window. This was just a quick example of what can be done with Linux. There are a few tweaks that could be made to make things look cleaner and neater....
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Nice. I wonder how many terminal commands and source code had to be compiled for that? The one time I had a convincing Mac OS X clone (complete with traffic light buttons in full gloss) it was after months in the terminal and hours compiling source code followed by days of debugging the errors in that.

Since even KDE went flat UI, even making it skeuo seems to end with icons. The apps and app UIs all remain flat. I can only get skin deep results, and unlike Android, I can't use old Linux apps from Mandriva (2010) on modern Linux due to incompatiblities with kernels and source libs.

I wish there was just one distro with that UI out the gate, only I'd rather have Vista or 7, as I was never that fond of Windows XP or its Luna interface. During XP's heyday I stuck with 98SE. I was not impressed until Vista came out.
 
Nice. I wonder how many terminal commands and source code had to be compiled for that? The one time I had a convincing Mac OS X clone (complete with traffic light buttons in full gloss) it was after months in the terminal and hours compiling source code followed by days of debugging the errors in that.

Since even KDE went flat UI, even making it skeuo seems to end with icons. The apps and app UIs all remain flat. I can only get skin deep results, and unlike Android, I can't use old Linux apps from Mandriva (2010) on modern Linux due to incompatiblities with kernels and source libs.

I wish there was just one distro with that UI out the gate, only I'd rather have Vista or 7, as I was never that fond of Windows XP or its Luna interface. During XP's heyday I stuck with 98SE. I was not impressed until Vista came out.
Making Linux Mint look like Win 7 is just as easy. The commands on the CLI were simply to download the theme and icon packs. A person could use their web browser to download them into the appropriate folders and not use the terminal commands.
 
great thread, found this on duckduckgo recently

ask you anything (Linux-Mac), OP?
ok!
can Linux Unbuntu physically boot on a macbook air, 2010 with a ssd drive that is High Sierra formatted?
i say no-
getting Mojave on that was tedious, but worked.
and during the Unbuntu install those drivers kept appearing for over an hour without any progress.
do i need the ssd drive formatted differently?
my Unbuntu install source was from their thread and i followed the instructions to the T

oh
yesterday my cousin who is not into computers, but loves apple- came over,
so i gave him my gen4 appleTV without blinking an eye
i never used that since this spring.
 
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