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UltraZ33

macrumors 6502
Jun 17, 2009
435
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I tired it yesterday morning. The set up went all the way. And then I put the phone in airplane mode and turned the wifi on to simulate low cellular signal and it worked. Made a phone call too.
 

S8ER01Z

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2015
105
42
Activated in Davenport, IA yesterday, I live on Illinois side of Quad Cities and it's working fine.
 

gsmornot

macrumors 68040
Sep 29, 2014
3,672
3,853
It's almost as if geographic location has nothing to do with it. Shocking! :p

It does have to do with it. The location needs to be able to support the technology for it to work. The error message says its not available in your area. It might be turned on by phone numbers but even that is based on geographical areas.

Is it your feeling that since I cannot activate here, if I went to an area where someone can I would still not be able to activate? Its possible and I don't know the answer. If I could go where someone can and am able to activate then it would be based on location. Still, I don't know so I can't debate that it is/is not, just curious is all.
 

gdoes

macrumors newbie
Aug 2, 2008
28
5
It does have to do with it. The location needs to be able to support the technology for it to work. The error message says its not available in your area. It might be turned on by phone numbers but even that is based on geographical areas.

Not sure why it would matter since you will be switching to use your own personal wi-fi, which would mean you don't even use the AT&T infrastructure.

Getting back to where: has anyone got AT&T wi-fi calling to work in Florida?
 

gdoes

macrumors newbie
Aug 2, 2008
28
5
I tired it yesterday morning. The set up went all the way. And then I put the phone in airplane mode and turned the wifi on to simulate low cellular signal and it worked. Made a phone call too.

Your Wi-Fi calling must have been enabled already, because the minute you place your phone in airplane mode the Phone part gets disabled.
 

bendrumin

macrumors 6502
Jun 23, 2009
357
62
Minneapolis
It does have to do with it. The location needs to be able to support the technology for it to work. The error message says its not available in your area. It might be turned on by phone numbers but even that is based on geographical areas.

Is it your feeling that since I cannot activate here, if I went to an area where someone can I would still not be able to activate? Its possible and I don't know the answer. If I could go where someone can and am able to activate then it would be based on location. Still, I don't know so I can't debate that it is/is not, just curious is all.

The error currently just says "oops, something went wrong blah blah blah" doing a restore to see if somethign is up with my software itself.
 

xero9

macrumors 6502a
Nov 7, 2006
864
487
It does have to do with it. The location needs to be able to support the technology for it to work. The error message says its not available in your area. It might be turned on by phone numbers but even that is based on geographical areas.

VoLTE I can understand.. WiFi Calling I don't. As mentioned between this comment and yours: you're not using AT&T's cellular network, so the area really shouldn't matter.

Is it your feeling that since I cannot activate here, if I went to an area where someone can I would still not be able to activate? Its possible and I don't know the answer. If I could go where someone can and am able to activate then it would be based on location. Still, I don't know so I can't debate that it is/is not, just curious is all.

That is my belief. I could be entirely wrong, but I seem to remember when Apple Pay went live in October people were listing where they were physically located if they could or couldn't activate their cards.

I think it just gives people something to talk about and some way to try to justify why it works for some but not others.
 

gsmornot

macrumors 68040
Sep 29, 2014
3,672
3,853
VoLTE I can understand.. WiFi Calling I don't. As mentioned between this comment and yours: you're not using AT&T's cellular network, so the area really shouldn't matter.



That is my belief. I could be entirely wrong, but I seem to remember when Apple Pay went live in October people were listing where they were physically located if they could or couldn't activate their cards.

I think it just gives people something to talk about and some way to try to justify why it works for some but not others.

Wifi calling will try to handoff the call to mobile data if available. The handoff requires configuration on the backend in the cell network so this is why I say this is location specific. Until each location is updated or upgraded or whatever they have to do it will be an area by area roll out. This is my opinion anyhow. I'm assuming this as being in a building with low signal inside and good outside. You would in theory be able to hand the call off and keep going. If you're where there is no signal and leave wifi then the call would drop.
 

xero9

macrumors 6502a
Nov 7, 2006
864
487
Wifi calling will try to handoff the call to mobile data if available. The handoff requires configuration on the backend in the cell network so this is why I say this is location specific. Until each location is updated or upgraded or whatever they have to do it will be an area by area roll out. This is my opinion anyhow. I'm assuming this as being in a building with low signal inside and good outside. You would in theory be able to hand the call off and keep going. If you're where there is no signal and leave wifi then the call would drop.

I didn't consider that.

Is there any connection between people who have been able to activate and those who are in area with VoLTE enabled?

I ask because Rogers in Canada had "promised" to enable WiFi calling, and people had speculated that the backend for the two were interconnected somehow.
 

fireitfox

macrumors newbie
May 24, 2009
26
0
Doesn't work in Cupertino,CA.
 

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gdoes

macrumors newbie
Aug 2, 2008
28
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Wifi calling will try to handoff the call to mobile data if available. The handoff requires configuration on the backend in the cell network so this is why I say this is location specific...

This would mean that if you are out of the country, you will not be able to use AT&T Wi-Fi calling: this would be a significant limitation!
 

gsmornot

macrumors 68040
Sep 29, 2014
3,672
3,853
This would mean that if you are out of the country, you will not be able to use AT&T Wi-Fi calling: this would be a significant limitation!
I'm not sure but I'm guessing you will be able to use it but rates similar to cellular calls might apply. The wifi calling is not in my view internet style calling like Skype. Instead, this is a way to get into the cell network in the absence of a tower. Your call will be routed to a point that eventually meets the other calls that come in from towers. Using wifi gives you an alternative to using radio signals to access the network. In my mind its like VPN. At some point you hit the same network as the users in the office but take a different path to get there.
 
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