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Ever try riding a commuter bus/train for a couple of hours every day?
Why would anyone do that? If I needed to spend 2 hours/day commuting, I'd spent every spare minute looking for a new job or a new place to live closer to work. Who spends 12.5% of their waking hours in traffic EVERY DAY???🤣😂
 
Apple added a feature. It’s optional. You don’t have to pay for it. Use it, don’t use it... Why criticize them over it? Makes no sense.

I mean… Apple added a new wallpaper. I don’t use it… why should I complain about it? I think the relentless criticism of every little thing is ridiculous, and maybe it clouds them from seeing the bigger picture, when everyone seemingly complains about everything.
 
I remember being excited looking at license plates from different states and counting animals when I was young. Car rides were always fun to me.

I think those days are over for today’s generations. It’s all Angry Birds and Tap Tap Revenge now a days, or whatever the kids are playing.
Ok boomer. Because nobody ever uses an iPhone or iPad to, you know, read a book.

Times have changed since your ‘day before the day before yesterday’ generation.
 
Some of us don’t have that luxury 🙁
I'm sure some people feel that way, but there's no reason to give an employer 2 hours of your life without pay. Every. Day. If you can't find a better job, then move closer to your job. If you're underwater on your mortgage, and fear taking a loss, then consider how much two hours a day is costing you in time and wear and tear on your automobile (gasoline & insurance costs, too). You'll find it's better to take the loss so you can take back a significant part of your life.
 
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I'm sure some people feel that way, but there's no reason to give an employer 2 hours of your life without pay. Every. Day. If you can't find a better job, then move closer to your job. If you're underwater on your mortgage, and fear taking a loss, then consider how much two hours a day is costing you in time and wear and tear on your automobile (gasoline & insurance costs, too). You'll find it's better to take the loss so you can take back a significant part of your life.
Some people can’t afford rents, much less a mortgage, close to wear they work (e.g. anyone working in central Sydney or Paris, non-tech workers in Silicon Valley). Some people work in jobs that can’t be done just anywhere (e.g., hospital workers, university lecturers). Some people need to take any job they can get (e.g. ex-cons, people with disabilities needing accommodation at work, people who don’t speak fluent English). Lots of people need to stay near family, have spouses who work in a different location, and kids in a local school. Not everyone has the luxury of just finding a different job or just moving house to avoid a commute.
 
Some people can’t afford rents, much less a mortgage, close to wear they work (e.g. anyone working in central Sydney or Paris, non-tech workers in Silicon Valley). Some people work in jobs that can’t be done just anywhere (e.g., hospital workers, university lecturers). Some people need to take any job they can get (e.g. ex-cons, people with disabilities needing accommodation at work, people who don’t speak fluent English). Lots of people need to stay near family, have spouses who work in a different location, and kids in a local school. Not everyone has the luxury of just finding a different job or just moving house to avoid a commute.
If you can't afford rent, who do you afford a two hour commute?
 
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If you can't afford rent, who do you afford a two hour commute?
Where I live, bus fares are subsidised and cost 50c regardless of the distance, while the cheapest 1 bedroom apartment near the city is $650/week to rent (you'll need more than 1 bedroom if you have a family, of course). But even if you are driving yourself and not car-pooling, in a small car that's maybe $20/day in petrol or $100 for a 5-day week if you have to be in the office every day. Much less than renting an inner-city apartment.
 
Some people can’t afford rents, much less a mortgage, close to wear they work (e.g. anyone working in central Sydney or Paris, non-tech workers in Silicon Valley). Some people work in jobs that can’t be done just anywhere (e.g., hospital workers, university lecturers). Some people need to take any job they can get (e.g. ex-cons, people with disabilities needing accommodation at work, people who don’t speak fluent English). Lots of people need to stay near family, have spouses who work in a different location, and kids in a local school. Not everyone has the luxury of just finding a different job or just moving house to avoid a commute.
Excellent reply. Here is a situation many of us living in France have. Paris is indeed expensive, but also not so comfortable to live in, you can get a much bigger apartment or even a house with a garden for what you’d shell out in Paris with noisy neighbours, crappy views and pollution. So a lot of people live near Paris and commute there everyday. We have an excellent transport system, mostly reliant on trains/metro/trams and you would likely use a bus here and there if the station is more than a 10 min walk from where you live. Changing a job is not worth the headache, simply because you’d have to be high level executive or a politician to live in a very comfortable place in Paris. So yes, people commute, and some of us need features like this one (motion sickness). Its honestly almost impossible to have a job without commute nowadays, especially in huge metropolitan cities.
 
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Where I live, bus fares are subsidised and cost 50c regardless of the distance, while the cheapest 1 bedroom apartment near the city is $650/week to rent (you'll need more than 1 bedroom if you have a family, of course). But even if you are driving yourself and not car-pooling, in a small car that's maybe $20/day in petrol or $100 for a 5-day week if you have to be in the office every day. Much less than renting an inner-city apartment.
Hey, I live in Chicago. Rents ain't cheap here, either. But I'd like to know how you feel about being "bus sick" for 2 hours a day? Hope you get some relief from an app, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
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Hey I told my wife who suffers from motion sickness about this feature and she was so excited to try it (once the os update happens). She can barely care about most phone features, but has spent her whole life wishing she could read in the car or even check a map in the passenger seat without or with less queasiness. Hopefully it works. I’m guessing it only works for some people, but good on Apple for improving accessibility. If it works for a good chunk of people it’s worth it I’d say.
 
Why would anyone do that? If I needed to spend 2 hours/day commuting, I'd spent every spare minute looking for a new job or a new place to live closer to work. Who spends 12.5% of their waking hours in traffic EVERY DAY???🤣😂
Understood, but that’s not what we’re discussing in this thread. Personally, I think everyone makes the best decisions for themselves based on their own preferences and situation. End of story.

Back on topic, it’s undeniable that many people do commute daily - so if Apple’s little moving circles make commuting more productive for them then it’s a win. You yourself said, “I’d spend every spare minute”. This little feature helps others do the same.
 
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I'm sure some people feel that way, but there's no reason to give an employer 2 hours of your life without pay. Every. Day. If you can't find a better job, then move closer to your job. If you're underwater on your mortgage, and fear taking a loss, then consider how much two hours a day is costing you in time and wear and tear on your automobile (gasoline & insurance costs, too). You'll find it's better to take the loss so you can take back a significant part of your life.
Wow. You really do live in a bubble, don’t you.
 
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Understood, but that’s not what we’re discussing in this thread. Personally, I think everyone makes the best decisions for themselves based on their own preferences and situation. End of story.

Back on topic, it’s undeniable that many people do commute daily - so if Apple’s little moving circles make commuting more productive for them then it’s a win. You yourself said, “I’d spend every spare minute”. This little feature helps others do the same.
That's fine for people commuting 2 hours a day on public transportation. But if you're driving, it would be inadvisable to use this app instead of looking where you're going.
 
Wow. You really do live in a bubble, don’t you.
Nope. I started a business that was a 30 minute commute from my apartment. My wife got a job that was the same commute, but in the opposite direction. One year of that and we moved. My commute went down to 15 minutes, and hers went to 5 minutes. There is ALWAYS a choice. And if you choose to use an app to prevent motion sickness, as long as you're not driving, and it actually works (show me the evidence), good on ya, matey!
 
Nope. I started a business that was a 30 minute commute from my apartment. My wife got a job that was the same commute, but in the opposite direction. One year of that and we moved. My commute went down to 15 minutes, and hers went to 5 minutes. There is ALWAYS a choice. And if you choose to use an app to prevent motion sickness, as long as you're not driving, and it actually works (show me the evidence), good on ya, matey!
There is always a choice, there is also always a starting point. You were able to start a business, some go to work at an airport 40 mins away from the city and they themselves live about 40 mins away from the city in the other direction, ie, it totals up for them at about 90 mins each way. I don't do such commutes, but I know a lot of people who spend at least 1,5h on public transport, and I can safely say 80% of them would LOVE to live closer to their jobs, but cannot. Again, there is a choice, but there is also a starting point/lack of opportunities and other factors. You gotta look outside your own box for a moment.

As for the feature, it works, at least for me and it makes my life just a little bit better and comfortable.
 
There is always a choice, there is also always a starting point. You were able to start a business, some go to work at an airport 40 mins away from the city and they themselves live about 40 mins away from the city in the other direction, ie, it totals up for them at about 90 mins each way. I don't do such commutes, but I know a lot of people who spend at least 1,5h on public transport, and I can safely say 80% of them would LOVE to live closer to their jobs, but cannot. Again, there is a choice, but there is also a starting point/lack of opportunities and other factors. You gotta look outside your own box for a moment.

As for the feature, it works, at least for me and it makes my life just a little bit better and comfortable.
"there is also a starting point/lack of opportunities and other factors" sure there are, but one of those choices is, "Will I accept a lifestyle without some of the amenities I have now in order to have more free time?"
 
"there is also a starting point/lack of opportunities and other factors" sure there are, but one of those choices is, "Will I accept a lifestyle without some of the amenities I have now in order to have more free time?"
So by ‘amenities’ you mean luxuries like food, clothing, a roof over one’s head - that sort of thing?
 
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Oh for crying out loud. You really don’t have a clue, do you. Do you have any empathy at all for those who are struggling, and couldn’t even imagine owning a new car or travelling?
Been there, done that. The difference being I learned a trade that after my (poorly paid) apprenticeship allowed me to set up my own business closer to home, and make more money to boot. Staying poor in America is a choice for someone of your intelligence. No one ever accused me of being a genius, but this high school graduate went to the library and read everything I could find on investing, and it paid for our house, our car, a building for my shop, a secure retirement and much more. Find something most people don't want to do for themselves, learn to do it, and you'll do fine. Learn what to do with your money, and you'll do great.
 
Been there, done that. The difference being I learned a trade that after my (poorly paid) apprenticeship allowed me to set up my own business closer to home, and make more money to boot. Staying poor in America is a choice for someone of your intelligence. No one ever accused me of being a genius, but this high school graduate went to the library and read everything I could find on investing, and it paid for our house, our car, a building for my shop, a secure retirement and much more. Find something most people don't want to do for themselves, learn to do it, and you'll do fine. Learn what to do with your money, and you'll do great.
I am not ‘poor’ (as you so eloquently put it) and I suspect you have misjudged me with your ‘someone of your intelligence’ comment. Nor do I live in America. Thankfully. The fact that I am happy and successful doesn’t prevent me from having empathy for others - something that seems to have eluded you.

But I am the fool here for thinking that anything I said could change your point of view. Pop your red cap back on, grandpa. I’m done. If digging your heels in and not being open to progressive conversation is your idea of a win, then I concede defeat.
 
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I tried this out on a 2,200km (1,350 mi) road trip last week. My conclusion is that it helps, but it isn't a cure. I wasn't able to read a book on my phone, but as a passenger, I was able to look down at the phone for long enough to choose the next podcast for the playlist and to look up where we could stop for petrol or lunch.
 
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I tried this out on a 2,200km (1,350 mi) road trip last week. My conclusion is that it helps, but it isn't a cure. I wasn't able to read a book on my phone, but as a passenger, I was able to look down at the phone for long enough to choose the next podcast for the playlist and to look up where we could stop for petrol or lunch.
I would consider it as improvement. I tried using it on a longer ride too recently, and same as you, I was able to use it to text, check emails, even browse socials, but I wouldn't be totally ok with reading a long article as the sickness slowly creeps in after a while.
 
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