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Battery issues since update?

How's your iOS 11 battery life?

  • Same as before, pretty good

  • Seems worse

  • Much worse

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bashman2020 said:
This is what Apple needs to address the issue where someone can't downgrade after upgrading is too bad
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They will never do that, since it thwarts their ideas of planned obsolescence.

I don't even think these upgrades that waste more battery are accidental. The truth is that nowadays people aren't paying what Apple asks for anything (and they always asked for a lot of money), specially in tablets, which aren't selling what they did in the first years:
http://fortune.com/2017/03/21/apple-ipad-decline/

The cheaper 2017 iPAD was another proof their sales weren't good.

It might seem a ridiculous idea to stay with the iOS your device comes with (in the case of iPAD Pro 10.5, 10.3.2), but that's the most logical thing a person can do, if it wants their device to last as much as possible.

I don't know why there's always a need to update iOS to the last version released, this has become a pathological behaviour, why can't these devices stick with a version and don't receive further improvements? I don't mean new fixes, I mean bloated changes that can only cause s.hit like this.

Worse, they had a lot of time to check what would happen with iOS 11, so there's no excuse.

They did it on purpose. Wasting more battery means replacing your device or battery sooner. In the end more profit for Apple.

If there's one thing users don't complain enough is battery. This link shows how much we can expect from tablets to last:
http://www.tabletpccomparison.net/battery-life/large-autonomy

And one thing that caught my attention is that the iPAD Air lasts 13.5 hours, the Mini 12.5, Mini 3/2 12h, and iPAD 4 11 hours. Then you have iPAD 2 with 10.5, and the rest with 10 hours (IPP 10.5, Air 2, etc.).

Why no one here discusses that all newer devices from Apple aren't improved in terms of battery? As long as they don't care about this or can't improve it without making the devices weigh a lot more I won't be updating iOS.
 
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Perene said:
They will never do that, since it thwarts their ideas of planned obsolescence.

I don't even think these upgrades that waste more battery are accidental. The truth is that nowadays people aren't paying what Apple asks for anything (and they always asked for a lot of money), specially in tablets, which aren't selling what they did in the first years:
http://fortune.com/2017/03/21/apple-ipad-decline/

It might seem a ridiculous idea to stay with the iOS your device comes with (in the case of iPAD Pro 10.5, 10.3.2), but that's the most logical thing a person can do, if it wants their device to last as much as possible. I don't know why there's always a need to update iOS to the last version released, this has become a pathological behaviour, why can't these devices stick with a version and don't receive further improvements? I don't mean new fixes, I mean bloated changes that can only cause this. Worse, they had a lot of time to check what would happen with iOS 11, so can't offer any excuse.

They did it on purpose. Wasting more battery means replacing your device or battery sooner. In the end more profit for Apple.

If there's one thing users don't complain enough is battery. This link shows how much we can expect tablets to last:
http://www.tabletpccomparison.net/battery-life/large-autonomy

And one thing that caught my attention is that the iPAD Air lasts 13.5 hours, the Mini 12.5, Mini 3/2 12h, and iPAD 4 11 hours. Then you have iPAD 2 with 10.5, and the rest with 10 hours (IPP 10.5, Air 2, etc.).

Why no one here discusses that all newer devices from Apple aren't improved in terms of battery? As long as they don't care about this or can't improve it without making the devices weight a lot more I won't be updating iOS.
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What’s also aggravating about their planned obsolescence strategy is that even if you don’t give in and buy a newer device, because of battery drain, you cause your battery to wear faster than usual for a number of months and end up paying a 100 bucks for battery replacement at the store so they still end up getting some of your money. iOS 9 did that with my iPhone 6 battery and I had to get it replaced a few months ago.
 
bashman2020 said:
Much worse than you can ever imagine, we hope the upcoming ios 11.1 would address all the major issues and lags with iOS 11 as a whole because right now it's filled with too many bugs and lags and glitches
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This is what Apple needs to address the issue where someone can't downgrade after upgrading is too bad
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It ruins Tim Cook’s OS version marketing chart at the keynote and he can no longer take potshots at Android, that’s why. Seriously I actually love that fragmented Android chart. You can actually choose what version you want to remain in on Android. I wonder how many in that 54% Apple loves to brag out, are happy with iOS 11.
 
deadcantdance said:
I'm on iOS 11.1 dev beta 5 and my iPhone 7 is draining much faster than on iOS 10. Lost 20% of battery during the last 4 hours, only used it for some emails and WhatsApp messages.
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I am BARELY getting 7-8 hours and that’s after nervously looking at that percentage draining by the minute and adjusting my usage. My 7 Plus does not last 1 full working day on iOS 11 while it did on iOS 10. It just doesn’t without compromises.
 
Radon87000 said:
What’s also aggravating about their planned obsolescence strategy is that even if you don’t give in and buy a newer device, because of battery drain, you cause your battery to wear faster than usual for a number of months and end up paying a 100 bucks for battery replacement at the store so they still end up getting some of your money. iOS 9 did that with my iPhone 6 battery and I had to get it replaced a few months ago.
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Anyone that thinks this is a conspiracy theory couldn't be more wrong.

We all know Apple devices can't be fixed. You can't just open them and replace whatever is broken. Did you all remember their devices received (from iFixit) the lowest repairability score? Meaning that if something is dead inside them you have to replace the whole thing. Apple doesn't even repair it, they send you a new one.

Second, replacing a dead battery (at least from new devices): I don't think that's possible, at least I haven't seen anyone doing, and if it's somehow possible it might be expensive to do, forcing you to buy another instead. I saw an older iPhone getting a new battery for a fair price (it wasn't even Apple that did the service), I was impressed with how cheap the new battery was, and also how the health was 100% OK according to the battery app I used (of course, it is new!). This replacement gave the old iPhone more years to be used (the old battery was dead).

If this can't be done or if Apple restricts the battery market just like Luxottica does with anything it touches:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18845_6-secret-monopolies-you-didnt-know-run-world.html

Then you'll see what planned obsolescence is. The battery waste (from iOS 11) might not be noticeable for most users. It might even be seem as OK for most of them. But in the long run your device will not last the same period it could, if you hadn't installed these updates.

My advice is either wait for a year or more to see if these problems have been fixed or don't update anymore and continue using your device as you always did. It's not easy to sell used Apple products and whenever we do we are always losing money since no one will pay the original price.

Even jailbreak appears to be dead:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8xa4ka/iphone-jailbreak-life-death-legacy

Another evidence they have a chokehold on all devices now more than ever before.
 
when you stay on a previous iOS version , Apple forces you to update because they make app developers render apps in the App Store obsolete which makes you unable to use apps sooner or later . All of these are just planned and tricks
Perene said:
They will never do that, since it thwarts their ideas of planned obsolescence.

I don't even think these upgrades that waste more battery are accidental. The truth is that nowadays people aren't paying what Apple asks for anything (and they always asked for a lot of money), specially in tablets, which aren't selling what they did in the first years:
http://fortune.com/2017/03/21/apple-ipad-decline/

The cheaper 2017 iPAD was another proof their sales weren't good.

It might seem a ridiculous idea to stay with the iOS your device comes with (in the case of iPAD Pro 10.5, 10.3.2), but that's the most logical thing a person can do, if it wants their device to last as much as possible.

I don't know why there's always a need to update iOS to the last version released, this has become a pathological behaviour, why can't these devices stick with a version and don't receive further improvements? I don't mean new fixes, I mean bloated changes that can only cause s.hit like this.

Worse, they had a lot of time to check what would happen with iOS 11, so there's no excuse.

They did it on purpose. Wasting more battery means replacing your device or battery sooner. In the end more profit for Apple.

If there's one thing users don't complain enough is battery. This link shows how much we can expect from tablets to last:
http://www.tabletpccomparison.net/battery-life/large-autonomy

And one thing that caught my attention is that the iPAD Air lasts 13.5 hours, the Mini 12.5, Mini 3/2 12h, and iPAD 4 11 hours. Then you have iPAD 2 with 10.5, and the rest with 10 hours (IPP 10.5, Air 2, etc.).

Why no one here discusses that all newer devices from Apple aren't improved in terms of battery? As long as they don't care about this or can't improve it without making the devices weigh a lot more I won't be updating iOS.
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Radon87000 said:
It ruins Tim Cook’s OS version marketing chart at the keynote and he can no longer take potshots at Android, that’s why. Seriously I actually love that fragmented Android chart. You can actually choose what version you want to remain in on Android. I wonder how many in that 54% Apple loves to brag out, are happy with iOS 11.
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The fragmentation of Android is not by users choice, it is forced on them because over 96% of all sold devices never see an update for the OS and over 50% do not even get security fixes.

And without the manufacturers good will you can't downgrade, because like apple they must publish the os version on their servers. Most do not offer older os versions once a new firmware came out.

Nerdy stuff like lineage os or such is almost non existing, 99% of all phones run with the manufacturers branded os.

Of course Apple is not much better, without updating no security fixes.
 
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iOS 11 Beta 5 runs better on my iPhone 6 , but battery life is INSANLY Bad... not getting 3hour of Usage and 12 Hour Standby

feelsbad
 
Well beta 5 seems miles better on my iPhone 7. Are Apple struggling with this as it’s causing battery drain on some devices and not on others then they change it and the opposite happens. ‍♂️. This is the best battery life I’ve had on iOS 11 anyhow.
 
b10cker said:
Well beta 5 seems miles better on my iPhone 7. Are Apple struggling with this as it’s causing battery drain on some devices and not on others then they change it and the opposite happens. ‍♂️. This is the best battery life I’ve had on iOS 11 anyhow.
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That is kind of sad when we "Best battery life on iOS 11!" when it is generally worse that iOS 10.3.3 ... ;)
 
Is anyone else have this battery issue? This morning my phone was at 60%, after watching two youtube videos on LTE, my battery was at 24% (after just watching 10 mins long videos)

When my phone was at 1% I decided to reboot it because it seems not normal at all and when I rebooted, the battery was at 15%. Whats the problem? Does anyone else have this kind of issue? is this iOS 11 released issue? Apple claims my battery is at 87% health.
 
SoYoung said:
Is anyone else have this battery issue? This morning my phone was at 60%, after watching two youtube videos on LTE, my battery was at 24% (after just watching 10 mins long videos)

When my phone was at 1% I decided to reboot it because it seems not normal at all and when I rebooted, the battery was at 15%. Whats the problem? Does anyone else have this kind of issue? is this iOS 11 released issue? Apple claims my battery is at 87% health.
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Despite what users said in this thread I don't believe this can be fixed in any other way besides draining the battery down to 0 and recharging to 100%. I believe you need to do this at least once to calibrate your battery and stop having these inconsistencies.

Or at least do a force restart and see if things change:
https://www.wikihow.com/Hard-Reset-an-iPhone

You can also try a clean install to see if things will improve.
 
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Perene said:
Despite what users said in this thread I don't believe this can be fixed in any other way besides draining the battery down to 0 and recharging to 100%. I believe you need to do this at least once to calibrate your battery and stop having these inconsistencies.

Or at least do a force restart and see if things change:
https://www.wikihow.com/Hard-Reset-an-iPhone

You can also try a clean install to see if things will improve.
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I already made a clean install a month ago with the DFU method but not luck. Thanks for your tips though! its appreciated :)
 
Perene said:
Despite what users said in this thread I don't believe this can be fixed in any other way besides draining the battery down to 0 and recharging to 100%. I believe you need to do this at least once to calibrate your battery and stop having these inconsistencies.

Or at least do a force restart and see if things change:
https://www.wikihow.com/Hard-Reset-an-iPhone

You can also try a clean install to see if things will improve.
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With wrong calibration the use time should be a lot higher than with correct data.

One hour runtime is one hour. If the indicator shows less capacity than there really is, the status bar would decrease even slower.

Like your car will run X miles with one gallon, independent of your gas status. Even when it is damaged and says 1% gasoline, you will magically drive mile over mile with almost none gasoline consumption.

So yes, Apple has messed up the energy consumption, either because of incompetence or because of intention.
 
I have an iPhone 5S that is lightly used. Since updating to 11.0.3 the battery is draining fast. When I wake up in the morning, my iPhone is drained and has powered off. It loses at least 10% per hour, idle. Way more if I use it.
Before the 11.0.3 update it was fine, lasted all day, and I only charged it every other day.

I've taken all the energy saving advice... Background App Refresh=off, Location Services adjustments, Bluetooth=off, etc.... to no avail.

I'm hopeful that the next update addresses this. Please Apple, fix this.
 
tosbsas said:
Beta 5 is working very Good with my battery. Finally I get thru the day :)
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I think Apple has been listening to our grouses and fixed the battery issue. I felt the battery has improved in the last two betas. Been getting pretty good battery life.
 
what do you guys think about my battery life ? is it good or bad
 

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kaishockz said:
iOS 11 Beta 5 runs better on my iPhone 6 , but battery life is INSANLY Bad... not getting 3hour of Usage and 12 Hour Standby

feelsbad
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Agree with you there as I am getting the same results (half of pre 11) on my 7. What a disappointment going from a device I actually loved (yes I would admire it as a wonder piece of engineering) to something I now see as less than it was overnight with this terrible update.

This is my last iPhone if they don't resolve this battery issue as that is a deal breaker. I will NOT be fooled again into buying an expensive device only to have it deliberately crippled. I find that disrespectful to the device and the customer both.
 
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