iPhone Battery Life After 6.1 evasi0n Jailbreak

[Sital]

For those of you using NCSettings and experiencing battery drain, what version are you using? I use NCSettings but I'm using a 4S so I have to use version 1.6.2. This is ask the last perfectly working version before he introduced the new LTE toggle.

I don't have any noticeable battery drain with NCSettings but I am starting to think its because I still use 1.6.2. My guess is that those of you who are having issues are probably using 1.7.1. But that's a total guess. I could be completely wrong.

Anyone care to chime in? Maybe we can figure this out.

I'm on an iPhone 5, but I'm using version 1.6.2. I never upgraded when 1.7 came out since as I recall it had crashing issues. If my battery drain has increased, it's not enough for me to notice.

For those who were using NCSettings and uninstalled it, I'm curious about what you replaced it with, if anything.

 

[BumpyFlatline]

I'm on an iPhone 5, but I'm using version 1.6.2. I never upgraded when 1.7 came out since as I recall it had crashing issues. If my battery drain has increased, it's not enough for me to notice.

For those who were using NCSettings and uninstalled it, I'm curious about what you replaced it with, if anything.

Makes sense. Based on my knowledge and experience I am assuming that most of the people experiencing issues are using 1.7.1. But you know what they say about assuming! Plus, I'm wrong quite a bit so I won't be shocked if everyone says they're using 1.6.2 haha.

 

[thadoggfather]

I think you might be onto something.

My family's devices either have 1.6.1-1 or 1.6.2

Neither of them have reported battery issues since me jailbreaking their devices (and they're on iOS 6.1 as well, so when you said you were on 1.6.2 it immediately rung a bell in my head since I JB their devices before the 'Exchange iOS update' and never bothered doing it all over again with iOS 6.1.2 since it's working perfect for them).

On my iPad 3, battery life has been good as far as I can tell. And it's on NCSettings 1.7.1.

Maybe it's an issue specific to iPhone and conflicting with another tweak, or perhaps manifests itself on its own over time as a 'nasty bug'?

Granted I have probably close to 40+ tweaks but battery life for the most part has been EXCELLENT and same as stock believe it or not. I took a huge gamble with Winterboard and Ayecon because I had a terrible experience with performance and battery on iPhone 3G and really stayed away for years for this reason and because I never found any consistent themes I liked until now.

I am going to try NCSettings 1.6.2 and see if it fixes it and report back.

Thanks for the tip!

Also makes sense, because afaik when the dev included LTE toggle support, not long after that he said he and the team are abandoning the project's support and development all together. Also lines up perfectly; maybe including one thing and fixing others caused this nasty bug that seems impossible to track down on its own or rather difficult even with different people's setups.

Can't hurt to try is my theory! I certainly wont be updating any of the 2-3 tweaks my family has installed on their devices, as the config is perfect.

Gonna try this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6h6l9koicgfm7nf/com.jamied360.ncsettings_1.6.2_iphoneos-arm.deb

Use Safari Download Manager, open with iFile and copy+paste it to the home directory and name it something easy like 'NCSettings.deb' and open Mobile Terminal, type "su" "alpine" "dpkg -i NCSettings.deb" (or the filename.deb, whichever you rename it to be) without quotes, each a separate line followed by hitting enter.

Sorry if people already know this procedure, or I'm being a parrot (I like to share knowledge), but I hope it helps. It's also possible you can install it from iFile itself, but I've had errors trying to do that in the past with debs and feel more nerdy and awesome for doing it the manual way.

Will report back if 1.6.2 fixes it.

 

[BumpyFlatline]

I think you might be onto something.

My family's devices either have 1.6.1-1 or 1.6.2

Neither of them have reported battery issues since me jailbreaking their devices (and they're on iOS 6.1 as well, so when you said you were on 1.6.2 it immediately rung a bell in my head since I JB their devices before the fix and never bothered doing it all over again with iOS 6.1.2 since it's working perfect for them).

On my iPad 3, battery life has been good as far as I can tell. And it's on NCSettings 1.7.1.

Maybe it's an issue specific to iPhone and conflicting with another tweak, or perhaps manifests itself on its own over time as a 'nasty bug'?

Granted I have probably close to 40+ tweaks but battery life for the most part has been EXCELLENT and same as stock believe it or not. I took a huge gamble with Winterboard and Ayecon because I had a terrible experience with performance and battery on iPhone 3G and really stayed away for years for this reason and because I never found any consistent themes I liked until now.

I am going to try NCSettings 1.6.2 and see if it fixes it and report back.

Thanks for the tip!

Also makes sense, because afaik when the dev included LTE toggle support, not long after that he said he and the team are abandoning the project's support and development all together. Also lines up perfectly; maybe including one thing and fixing others caused this nasty bug that seems impossible to track down on its own or rather difficult even with different people's setups.

Can't hurt to try is my theory! I certainly wont be updating any of the 2-3 tweaks my family has installed on their devices, as the config is perfect.

Gonna try this:

http://iwatcher.net/2013/02/17/ncsettings-1-6-2/

Use Safari Download Manager, open with iFile and copy+paste it to the home directory and name it something easy like 'NCSettings.deb' and open Mobile Terminal, type "su" "alpine" "dpkg -i NCSettings.deb" (or the filename.deb, whichever you rename it to be) without quotes, each a separate line followed by hitting enter.

Sorry if people already know this procedure, or I'm being a parrot (I like to share knowledge), but I hope it helps.

Will report back if 1.6.2 fixes it.

Thanks for adding this info.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't recall this many people complaining about battery life due to NCSettings before he released 1.7.1. Before that, rarely did I hear this many people emphatically say that NCSettings was the cause. I'm not saying you're all wrong. I think it's a valid case based on the recent turmoil with NCSettings.

In the 1.7.1 update, the dev (mind you he's a one man show so we need to keep that in mind and cut him some slack) made some changes to the cellular radio toggle that caused all kinds of problems, specifically for people using the 4S and GSM networks. He was able to push a minor update to resolve the crashing bug but even after that, NCSettings just would NOT work for me. This was true for many other people as well. Personally, this didn't bother me one but because that original 1.7.1 update was for LTE users and didn't really add anything I wanted/needed for my 4S. So I happily downgraded to 1.6.2 and haven't experienced a single issue since, whether we're talking crashing, battery drain, or otherwise.

I'm thinking that whatever the changes were that he had to make for the 1.7.1 update, are either buggy, unstable, or conflicting with other tweaks. I'm sure over time these problems will be worked out but 1.7.1 is far from a perfect version.

My suggestion for anyone having battery drain problems and don't care for or need the new LTE toggle, downgrade to 1.6.2 and see if that works battery for you. My hunch tells me it will.

 

[thadoggfather]

Just in case people don't see my revised post at the bottom of page 4 and only see my post in quotes above here's the correct link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6h6l9koicgfm7nf/com.jamied360.ncsettings_1.6.2_iphoneos-arm.deb

It is very strange considering as mentioned above, NCSettings isn't the first thing I'd think to be a battery drain

EDIT: 2h13m usage over wifi and it just hit 80 percent. I don't want to rush to conclusions just yet but it's already looking promising! (iPhone 5, most surfing the web, checking tweetbot and alien blue)

 

[nanolife]

Just in case people don't see my revised post at the bottom of page 4 and only see my post in quotes above here's the correct link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6h6l9koicgfm7nf/com.jamied360.ncsettings_1.6.2_iphoneos-arm.deb

It is very strange considering as mentioned above, NCSettings isn't the first thing I'd think to be a battery drain

EDIT: 2h13m usage over wifi and it just hit 80 percent. I don't want to rush to conclusions just yet but it's already looking promising! (iPhone 5, most surfing the web, checking tweetbot and alien blue)

I really didn't want to have to ask you that but since I have been reading your posts and realized you seem to be a good guy, trying to help the JB community with their "mysteries", I gonna ask if it is possible for you to list your JB tweaks here, since you told us you have a lot of them and your battery life is still fine. I got very curious to know because I have been trying my best to keep my i5 as "clean" as possible to avoid slowness and battery drain, mainly.

I thank you in advance.

 

[thadoggfather]

I really didn't want to have to ask you that but since I have been reading your posts and realized you seem to be a good guy, trying to help the JB community with their "mysteries", I gonna ask if it is possible for you to list your JB tweaks here, since you told us you have a lot of them and your battery life is still fine. I got very curious to know because I have been trying my best to keep my i5 as "clean" as possible to avoid slowness and battery drain, mainly.

I thank you in advance.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16971866/

Since then I've removed hookslaw and added fakeclockup, XBMC, f.lux, TapDeWiggle and Callify

 

[nanolife]

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16971866/

Since then I've removed hookslaw and added fakeclockup, XBMC, f.lux, TapDeWiggle and Callify

Thank you very much, mate.

 

[Auxo]

Thank you very much, mate.

That guy is lying for your information. His device isn't as smooth as he claims.

 

[thadoggfather]

Hah oh yeah? alright then

You might just be upset I don't use Auxo. I bought that tweak but it's unreliable and bloated (will be weary of other A3tweaks). Switchy and swipe away are much better.

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Join date: march 2013.

Thank you very much, mate.

Yep no problem. Hope everything works out for ya

 

[Auxo]

Hah oh yeah? alright then

You might just be upset I don't use Auxo. I bought that tweak but it's unreliable and bloated (will be weary of other A3tweaks). Switchy and swipe away are much better.

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Join date: march 2013.



Yep no problem. Hope everything works out for ya

Most of those tweaks are known for hogging up the performance.

Yes, Auxo is very unreliable right now.

 

[thadoggfather]

Yet you love it so much you seem to defend it on these forums and even decide to create your username after it. Add Auxo to the list of multitask tweaks that are over hyped and interesting on paper but fail in implementation; remember multifl0w? How relevant is that now?

In a way I'm glad I spent $2 for Auxo junk, so I now know anything by A3tweaks I will automatically assume is junk until significantly proven otherwise

Please specifically list apps that are known for battery drain, Winterboard aside (as that's proven to not be the case for me, otherwise I would have removed it by now. I'm sure some themes can be problematic but with Ayecon it's hasn't been noticeable)

Calling me a liar and stating "most tweaks hog performance" isn't helping anyone here, including your dwindling reputation. You remind me of Apple:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3743


You also defend BiteSMS but I see no reason to use this app either. I find it bloated and Messages+ to be sufficient if I have to quick compose or reply from the lock screen with a slide up activator gesture

 

[MrViceGuy]

@thadoggfather you are the best!
Haven't experienced battery draining but the vibration toggle didn't work since 1.7.x. Downgraded to 1.6.2 with your little tutorial and now everything is fine.

Just registered to say thanks. This toggle is to damn important to me

 

[thadoggfather]

Nice! Glad to hear

 

[TriJetHero]

i miss multifl0w dearly…….

 

[bobright]

Yet you love it so much you seem to defend it on these forums and even decide to create your username after it. Add Auxo to the list of multitask tweaks that are over hyped and interesting on paper but fail in implementation; remember multifl0w? How relevant is that now?

In a way I'm glad I spent $2 for Auxo junk, so I now know anything by A3tweaks I will automatically assume is junk until significantly proven otherwise

Please specifically list apps that are known for battery drain, Winterboard aside (as that's proven to not be the case for me, otherwise I would have removed it by now. I'm sure some themes can be problematic but with Ayecon it's hasn't been noticeable)

Calling me a liar and stating "most tweaks hog performance" isn't helping anyone here, including your dwindling reputation. You remind me of Apple:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3743


You also defend BiteSMS but I see no reason to use this app either. I find it bloated and Messages+ to be sufficient if I have to quick compose or reply from the lock screen with a slide up activator gesture

So NCSettings is a battery pig as well? Doh

 

[Auxo]

Yet you love it so much you seem to defend it on these forums and even decide to create your username after it. Add Auxo to the list of multitask tweaks that are over hyped and interesting on paper but fail in implementation; remember multifl0w? How relevant is that now?

In a way I'm glad I spent $2 for Auxo junk, so I now know anything by A3tweaks I will automatically assume is junk until significantly proven otherwise

Please specifically list apps that are known for battery drain, Winterboard aside (as that's proven to not be the case for me, otherwise I would have removed it by now. I'm sure some themes can be problematic but with Ayecon it's hasn't been noticeable)

Calling me a liar and stating "most tweaks hog performance" isn't helping anyone here, including your dwindling reputation. You remind me of Apple:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3743


You also defend BiteSMS but I see no reason to use this app either. I find it bloated and Messages+ to be sufficient if I have to quick compose or reply from the lock screen with a slide up activator gesture

Lmao, I think you need some fresh air .
I'm not defending Auxo. It's a nice tweak that I pretty much can't live without because of its looks.
Yea my username is Auxo, how could you know??

 

[thadoggfather]

Lmao, I think you need some fresh air .
I'm not defending Auxo. It's a nice tweak that I pretty much can't live without because of its looks.
Yea my username is Auxo, how could you know??

You still never answered my question of which tweaks cause intense battery drain since your argument is most of them do, and your quip is pretty good, only 8 days late to the scene

It's assumed someone whose been on here for a few years now "has no life" and could "use fresh air" probably, but it's also assumed people with accounts created in the same month we're in are trolls, especially when they're quarrelsome over the span of different topics and have fickle spurts of unfounded rage.

Sounds like you need some cannabis, I saw you rip that guy a new one in the "don't upgrade to 6.1.3" thread for pretty much no reason even with a dupe thread.

Just don't call people liars and imbeciles and everybody will get along alright okie? We aren't all Kool Aid diehards, defending products at every cost.

Anyways, "because of its looks" sounds like it isn't something one would be able to live without. I like Ayecon too because of its looks but it's not something I would render the iPhone to be useless without. I also think the card style sheet sounds cool on paper, but in practice, I have no idea which app is which at a super quick glance, the icon itself is also the sure way for me to know without thinking or perceiving things. The reason I think Auxo took off real quick and has quickly lost its mojo is because stock multitask bar is objectively stale and needs a facelift, and anything in that department will at least be greeted initially with arms wide open. I know that was my experience, but the resprings, inconsistencies in smoothness and catch with Zephyr, uselessness (don't swipe to the other pages either), battery drain, I lost interest.

I think you'd really like Switchy and SwipeAway, the new SwipeAway update is good because it knows to keep music playing apps open while killing all without explicitly pointing out exception apps. And its free!

But Switchy is a coupla bucks iirc. Still, dat 2 rows against the fabric-y background of Ayecon. oOo And I find it more useful seeing 8-apps open at a time as opposed to the same 4 but in card style. And the "Are you sure" thing is annoying, whenever I flip up, I am pretty sure I did what I wanted to do or I'd tap the dead space area above the task bar.

 

[Auxo]

You still never answered my question of which tweaks cause intense battery drain since your argument is most of them do, and your quip is pretty good, only 8 days late to the scene

It's assumed someone whose been on here for a few years now "has no life" and could "use fresh air" probably, but it's also assumed people with accounts created in the same month we're in are trolls, especially when they're quarrelsome over the span of different topics and have fickle spurts of unfounded rage.

Sounds like you need some cannabis, I saw you rip that guy a new one in the "don't upgrade to 6.1.3" thread for pretty much no reason even with a dupe thread.

Just don't call people liars and imbeciles and everybody will get along alright okie? We aren't all Kool Aid diehards, defending products at every cost.

Anyways, "because of its looks" sounds like it isn't something one would be able to live without. I like Ayecon too because of its looks but it's not something I would render the iPhone to be useless without. I also think the card style sheet sounds cool on paper, but in practice, I have no idea which app is which at a super quick glance, the icon itself is also the sure way for me to know without thinking or perceiving things. The reason I think Auxo took off real quick and has quickly lost its mojo is because stock multitask bar is objectively stale and needs a facelift, and anything in that department will at least be greeted initially with arms wide open. I know that was my experience, but the resprings, inconsistencies in smoothness and catch with Zephyr, uselessness (don't swipe to the other pages either), battery drain, I lost interest.

I think you'd really like Switchy and SwipeAway, the new SwipeAway update is good because it knows to keep music playing apps open while killing all without explicitly pointing out exception apps. And its free!

But Switchy is a coupla bucks iirc. Still, dat 2 rows against the fabric-y background of Ayecon. oOo And I find it more useful seeing 8-apps open at a time as opposed to the same 4 but in card style. And the "Are you sure" thing is annoying, whenever I flip up, I am pretty sure I did what I wanted to do or I'd tap the dead space area above the task bar.

Tl:dr
No but seriously , it wont matter if you write me a bible phrase , you'll never win in any argument like that. I'm not saying we're fighting over some argument here, I have no idea why you are quoting me in the first place, lol.

but it's also assumed people with accounts created in the same month we're in are trolls,

same month we are in are trolls ? If you want me to answer you, at least get it right.

 

[bandofbrothers]

This thread has lost direction somewhat !

We are here to give constructive opinions and constructive assistance and as important, learn.

Not to have pissing contests.

Be nice guys or simply agree to disagree.

 

[Auxo]

This thread has lost direction somewhat !

We are here to give constructive opinions and constructive assistance and as important, learn.

Not to have pissing contests.

Be nice guys or simply agree to disagree.

I have no idea whats gotten into him !

 

[thadoggfather]

I have no idea whats gotten into him !

tl;dr is more than fair. But why can't you answer my question:

Which tweaks besides Winterboard in your opinion drain battery significantly of the ones I listed?

It's for edification purposes

Most of that post that was 'tl;dr' was about why I prefer Switchy and SwipeAway to Auxo and find Auxo to be unneeded but you must have interpreted that as a personal slap to the face.

I also maintain that Auxo drains battery life, the subject of discussion for this thread.

Oh yeah and back OT if that were off topic,

I now have over 50 tweaks, and I think I can definitely feel the drain now moreso (an hour or two less of battery, but sometimes on some charges it lasts longer, probably just has to do with my charging cycle to account for these differences but there's a bit of drain I'm sure since I haven't held back; added Compose, Tap to Widgets, TransparentCameraBar,FastCopy, Safari Upload Enabler, Cyqueue) but it's not anything where I see it getting sucked down almost by the second of using like it seemed to with that latest NCSettings.

I accidentally installed 1.7.0 NCSettings deb on a friends phone, thinking it was 1.6.2 (had a temporary brainfart) and it crashed springboard EVERY time I pulled down NC so it wouldn't be too wild if 1.7.1 were plagued with bugs.

I'm also always near a charger of some type so it's been difficult for me to really properly gauge recently.

 

[Auxo]

tl;dr is more than fair. But why can't you answer my question:

Which tweaks besides Winterboard in your opinion drain battery significantly of the ones I listed?

It's for edification purposes

Most of that post that was 'tl;dr' was about why I prefer Switchy and SwipeAway to Auxo and find Auxo to be unneeded but you must have interpreted that as a personal slap to the face.

I also maintain that Auxo drains battery life, the subject of discussion for this thread.

You do know what "No but seriously" means right?
Don't take everything so personally and most importantly , don't get to personal .

With that said lets return to your form of discussion .

Having lots of tweaks in comparison to few, increases the risc of your battery being drained faster. Admit that.

Now , I know from personal experience , Zephyr is a target in that matter . I'm not too sure about Auxo but it might be a villain . I'm not sure so don't quote me on that.

I don't get what other tweaks you have , and that you put in the words 'replacement of Auxo'. Are you trying to hurt my feelings just because my father named me Auxo when I came into this world?
Seriously , drop that . I don't think you have a clue why I'm not seeing replacements everywhere like you. Hey you wanna know why ? Because there are no replacements for Auxo. It's unique and revolutionary in the world of jailbreaking and its one of my favorite tweaks, not just by its look but it's personality .

 

[thadoggfather]

I just barely beat you to it!

I do have over 50+ tweaks now and I do feel the drain, but it isn't excruciating and considering I use all my tweaks and for my usage I can more than get by, I'm keeping it as is. Performance also seems unhindered, and if anything because of FakeClockUp as aforementioned, lightning quick.

If I could re-restore, and didn't mind re-installing all this stuff later (I think when/if iOS7 untethered drops, I'll wait a bit to make sure all my favorite tweaks are updated and the servers arent bogged down and maybe even evaluate if it's worth updating to iOS 7 regardless, depending on its stock feature improvements), I would love to test out the Zephyr-only config and see if that's true. It very well could be causing more drain, but I know regardless I would NEVER be able to do without it. Hitting the home button every time is painful after you're used to gliding around. I wonder what Chpwn has to say on the matter of battery drain with Zephyr, I think he's denied someone telling him that was the case on Twitter but I could be just imagining things.

Plus I have Zephyr on my iPad but don't experience drain as much, but maybe that's because the internal battery is HUGE and I don't use Zephyr gesture much it's five-finger scrunch or the home button from my Logitech keyboard usually these days.

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I don't get what other tweaks you have , and that you put in the words 'replacement of Auxo'. Are you trying to hurt my feelings just because my father named me Auxo when I came into this world?

Will be sure to NOT reply to any more of your responses directly If you're really gonna go that route, after naming location A3 tweaks and username Auxo and me assuming you named your username that because of the tweak and your love for it, rather than your legal name (which I very much doubt to be Auxo), well then

good laugh and good night .

P.S. "unique and revolutionary in the jailbreak world." I've been jailbreaking since 10 minutes after taking a 1st gen out of the box and since then done it on every gen iPhone (will probably skip 5S, was gonna skip 4S but came across an irresistible Craigslist trade+cash for my 4 right around the time 5.0.1 untethered for A5 was ready to drop, and I (dis)respectfully (if that's how you perceive it) disagree.

Seriously (how many times do you have to say seriously -- now I'm convinced you're a middle schooler), let's get back on topic. Auxo you've pulled me into your nonsensical ways, but you've also contributed nothing but the obvious thus far.

 

[nanolife]

If I could re-restore, and didn't mean re-installing all this stuff later (I think when/if iOS7 untethered drops, I'll wait a bit to make sure all my favorite tweaks are updated and the servers arent bogged down and maybe even evaluate if it's worth updating to iOS 7 regardless, depending on its stock feature improvements), I would love to test out the Zephyr-only config and see if that's true. It very well could be causing more drain, but I know regardless I would NEVER be able to do without it.

I did that and the answer is no, it doesn't drain the battery. I DFU restored my iPhones dozens of times, each time trying with one or two tweaks for a day or two, sometimes with a matter of hours I could tell the difference and I can assure you, Zephyr doesn't drain the battery substantially.

I keep telling that in every topic I go. I have tried many combinations of tweaks and I can tell for sure about that subject.