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diesel

macrumors 6502a
Aug 3, 2007
807
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I had my push set to a yahoo mail account yesterday. I switched it to push by sms to my att number, and finally switched it to that mail2web.com email service with exchange. Now when i get messages when beejive isnt open i am getting some messages to my email, and some are still going to my sms. I am also getting email pushes from beejive when i am logged into my AIM and GTalk screen names through meebo.com while i am at my desk. Anyone else encountering this problem? Whats going on here beejive?! im a loyal beejive customer ever since my blackberry over a year ago, and have been waiting for this app since i got my iphone last year. I hope, hope, hope, these issues will be resolved with the next update...and even with these minor possible bugs...I LOVE THIS APP!


give it time i guess. beejive might have multiple servers for load balancing purposes perhaps, and the changes to your email push setting might not have been propagated to all of their servers.

out of curiosity, if you want push email, why did you choose not to stick with yahoo mail?
 

TopToffee

macrumors 65816
Jul 9, 2008
1,070
992
To all you new beejive buyers......welcome aboard!!!

i hope good quality apps like beejive will help change all these juvenile notions that just because most of the apps on the iphone are free, .99 or under 9.99, that anything greater than that is simply a rip off.

devs put untold hours of work into their products and quite frankly should be rewarded, especially when they roll out products such as beejive that sets an excellent high standard for future apps to match, but beejive did it right out of the gate with version 1.0 unlike 99% of the apps out there where quality was sacrificed in the dev's rush to market to simply make $$$$

I agree that people shouldn't COMPLAIN about price tags of apps if they're well made pieces of software... the only question I have about the beejive price point is whether it's actually the best choice FOR THE DEVS...

I mean, look at it this way. Let's say you create a piece of software that you believe is worth $10... but you know that you will make more money in total if you price it at $5.

Which price are you going to go for?

I think Beejive is a cracking application and well "worth" $16, but I also think that they would have made a higher total profit with a lower pricetag.
 

jcde7ago

macrumors 6502
Aug 4, 2008
478
0
San Francisco, CA
I agree that people shouldn't COMPLAIN about price tags of apps if they're well made pieces of software... the only question I have about the beejive price point is whether it's actually the best choice FOR THE DEVS...

I mean, look at it this way. Let's say you create a piece of software that you believe is worth $10... but you know that you will make more money in total if you price it at $5.

Which price are you going to go for?

I think Beejive is a cracking application and well "worth" $16, but I also think that they would have made a higher total profit with a lower pricetag.

I disagree, and i actually think that what Beejive's doing is a great marketing scheme.

Put it this way; you release a product, one with a very good history of being a quality, reliable product, at a high price point and you get people to cave in and buy it. What happens is, IM enthusiasts and those who have experience with Beejive on other smartphones are 99% likely to buy your product for the iPhone, knowing how good it was on other platforms.

And as luck would have it, iTunes review system gets an overhaul, allowing only those who purchased the app to review it; thus, because of the higher price point, most of the buyers of Beejive are those wanting a reliable IM program, even with the cost. At the same time, Beejive is getting rave reviews from these customers, thus persuading buyers who would not have spent $16 to eventually cave in and buy it. Because it's not a .99 cent product, it prevents it from being saturated with rather ignorant, negative reviews of people who have nothing better to say than, "Palringo is free, this isn't even worth 99 cents."

As of now, Beejive has gotten a massive amount of positive support behind it (and rightfully so), and now they are in a position to sell more or just as much as if it were a significantly lower price; sure, it might take more time, but more people will eventually "cave in" and just buy it. And after the hundreds and hundreds of reviews get posted saying that this product really is worth $16 bones, guess what happens when they decide to drop it to say, $5.99? This thing will sell faster than you can say "hotcakes."

I'd rather have 10,000 people buy my product at 16 bucks than have 20,000 people buy it at 6 bucks, wouldn't you?

The folks at Beejive knew what they were doing releasing it at $16, and i would be very surprised if they didn't have a target goal of how many units they wanted to sell at its current price point that they haven't already met ;)
 

ryanwarsaw

macrumors 68030
Apr 7, 2007
2,746
2,441
Beejive set the price they are a company, I am sure they priced it how they felt it would make the most profit. So your opinion doesn't really matter. They are a company and I am sure they try to do the best for themselves. I doubt they are the idiots you make them out to be.
 

jcde7ago

macrumors 6502
Aug 4, 2008
478
0
San Francisco, CA
Beejive set the price they are a company, I am sure they priced it how they felt it would make the most profit. So your opinion doesn't really matter. They are a company and I am sure they try to do the best for themselves. I doubt they are the idiots you make them out to be.

I hope this isn't directed at me, seeing as how the posts here are obviously successive...if not, there's an option to quote who you're addressing...
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4
i think $9.99 is the sweet spot. there's a couple of free options for IM on the iphone (im+ or meebo or beejive browser version) that it's hard for me to justify a $15.99 purchase. now i know this app is probably a million times better than the rest (aesthetics or features), but for me, i don't find any difference since the free apps serves my basic IM needs.
 

ryanwarsaw

macrumors 68030
Apr 7, 2007
2,746
2,441
The post is directed at anybody that thinks they have a better price point than the actual developes. Nobody else.
 

ryanwarsaw

macrumors 68030
Apr 7, 2007
2,746
2,441
i think $9.99 is the sweet spot. there's a couple of free options for IM on the iphone (im+ or meebo or beejive browser version) that it's hard for me to justify a $15.99 purchase. now i know this app is probably a million times better than the rest (aesthetics or features), but for me, i don't find any difference since the free apps serves my basic IM needs.

If you haven't bought it then you don't know what it does.
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4
uh, i believe reading the description on beejive will allow me to know what it does... otherwise you're saying that you bought beejive without knowing what it is?
 

gospel9

macrumors regular
Sep 20, 2008
225
0
What's with the flaming?

Most people have seen enough of the app to make out whether or not they like the interface. Simply saying that you haven't purchased the app dosent mean they cannot give their opinion.

It's like saying you haven't bought a brown Zune player yet therefor you cannot say it looks ugly to YOU. This argument is not going to go anywhere - customers AND POTENTIAL buyers have every right to make these judgements and whether or not the price is right for ONE PERSON can be very different for someone else.

I don't tolerate people doing fake reviews, but everyone should be free to speak out the opinion.
 

okrelayer

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2008
983
4
Well, concerning this App. If your just into casual instant messageing, such as going on aim for maybe 15 min talk to a few folks on your iPhone then go do something else this app is NOT for you.

this app is for the people that enjoy to keep aim/yahoo/msn active for long periods of time. Being able to get notified anytime if you have any messages coming through.

sure 15.99 is a bit pricey, but for the life of the phone having a great and WORKING IM app, i think its worth it. It also keeps casual people away, and gives their servers a bit of a break

the UI is top notch to boot to.
 

Andrmgic

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2007
531
1
Well, concerning this App. If your just into casual instant messageing, such as going on aim for maybe 15 min talk to a few folks on your iPhone then go do something else this app is NOT for you.

this app is for the people that enjoy to keep aim/yahoo/msn active for long periods of time. Being able to get notified anytime if you have any messages coming through.

sure 15.99 is a bit pricey, but for the life of the phone having a great and WORKING IM app, i think its worth it. It also keeps casual people away, and gives their servers a bit of a break

the UI is top notch to boot to.

Aside from the black chat screen bug, I feel it was worth the purchase. I'm sure they'll fix that, though. I'd also like them to add an integrated browser window like the developer of "Rooms" did.. it lets you look at a url in an IRC chat without leaving the program.
 

OneMike

macrumors 603
Oct 19, 2005
5,832
1,810
I think that's a big point also on price. Sure @ $4.99 they'd have gotten probably 20 times as many sales but that also put 20 times more the strain on their servers and also increase expenses to keep things running smooth.
 

vvebsta

macrumors 6502a
Sep 27, 2006
505
0
I bought this app and immediately emailed Beejive about whether they would add smileys and stuff like voice record like Palringo offers. They sent me a reply this morning (pretty speedy reply actually) saying...

"Thank you for the feedback. Yes, we will be adding emoticons in our updates that are forth coming. File transfers are also scheduled to ome in our updates.

Thank You!"


So more good stuff on the way!
 

jsamuelson

macrumors 6502
Sep 12, 2008
267
180
Switzerland
I think a lot of people are missing something significant - unless you have a bazillion SMS messages included in your plan this can replace costly texting back and forth and you will save the price of the app in a single day. Most people don't even come close to using up their full data allowance and IM is lightweight on data usage anyway.

By being online with Beejive virtually all the time I have chatted with friends I haven't spoken to in years in the last few days. Pure gold.
 

slicecom

macrumors 68020
Aug 29, 2003
2,065
98
Toronto, Canada
I bought this app and immediately emailed Beejive about whether they would add smileys and stuff like voice record like Palringo offers. They sent me a reply this morning (pretty speedy reply actually) saying...

"Thank you for the feedback. Yes, we will be adding emoticons in our updates that are forth coming. File transfers are also scheduled to ome in our updates.

Thank You!"


So more good stuff on the way!

You should have just went to their forum! It's been answered there numerous times and they answer questions within minutes! They're really quite impressive when it comes to responding to customers.
 

jaseone

macrumors 65816
Nov 7, 2004
1,246
59
Houston, USA
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I think Beejive is actually better for the casual IMer than the other programs as the beauty of Beejive is that you can always be available for chatting through their servers but not use any battery life unless you are actually chatting especially if you have some sort of free push email available (and there are plenty of free services). I'm not a big IMer myself but love Beejive for this reason especially as I have the push email alerts coming to me via text on AT&T!
 

tongteh

macrumors 6502
Aug 16, 2008
415
4
hey, is there a way that i could send beejive a feedback about the application?? don't you guys think if Beejive have the option to let you choose how long it would auto lock the iphone while using beejive would be great? like let's say the option are 1, 2, 5, 10 or never, same like the way it is being done in "Air Sharing"


for example, some of our friends do not reply instantly, but because our iPhone is being set to auto lock in 1 minute we will have to unlock it again and again while waiting for our friend's reply.. :(

so if there is a way to change the auto lock of the iphone while using beejive would be AWESOME!! ;) i am loving this application very much so far, except for the fact that the keyboard always lags on me(maybe because i type like a lighting).. :p

let me know what do you think of my suggestion.. :)
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4

I think Beejive is actually better for the casual IMer than the other programs as the beauty of Beejive is that you can always be available for chatting through their servers but not use any battery life unless you are actually chatting especially if you have some sort of free push email available (and there are plenty of free services). I'm not a big IMer myself but love Beejive for this reason especially as I have the push email alerts coming to me via text on AT&T!


wow, the battery life part is interesting. i used to have beejive for my blackberry curve and if i don't shut the program down, my battery will be drained out in about 3 hours (without any chatting). so this might actually seal the deal for me. i would pay $16 for being online all the time and receive IM's even when the program is closed.
 

Niiro13

macrumors 68000
Feb 12, 2008
1,719
0
Illinois
wow, the battery life part is interesting. i used to have beejive for my blackberry curve and if i don't shut the program down, my battery will be drained out in about 3 hours (without any chatting). so this might actually seal the deal for me. i would pay $16 for being online all the time and receive IM's even when the program is closed.

The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.
 

techiegirl

macrumors 65816
Sep 7, 2007
1,261
323
As mentioned before, there are free alternatives to push--mail2web and Yahoo.

The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.
 

jaseone

macrumors 65816
Nov 7, 2004
1,246
59
Houston, USA
The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.

You could always use a free account from somewhere like mail2web.com to get PUSH through Exchange Activesync.
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4
You could always use a free account from somewhere like mail2web.com to get PUSH through Exchange Activesync.

so how does that work? linking beejive servers to mail2web.com and then set up an email push account on the iphone? then IM's will be push to that email account??
 
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