LOL when did I say i felt bullied over a color? I am nearly 30. I dont care about a color. I care about making money lmfao.If you feel bullied over a bubble color, you're trying to be a victim.
LOL when did I say i felt bullied over a color? I am nearly 30. I dont care about a color. I care about making money lmfao.If you feel bullied over a bubble color, you're trying to be a victim.
What? Somebody's going to hack my text to find out what bar i am going to be going to tonight. Oh and about that cute from my Corporate law class from my 2nd year of grad school who i happened to see at starbucks tuesday.Enjoy your complete lack of security and privacy. Personally, I prefer something a bit more secure. SMS/MMS should have retired long ago
But if you are happy with it, more power to you.
These limitations are true of Android as well, unless you’re talking about RCS, but that’s coming to Apple’s Messages app, so that won’t be the case for very long. And some businesses (perhaps not big mega corps) do use tools like FaceBook Messenger to communicate with their customers, especially smaller businesses that use FaceBook’s business tools. Many big software companies even have a FaceBook Messenger contact button for contacting them via FaceBook Messenger. Maybe not in certain circumstances, but it is a thing.Company communications to folks outside the business end up using email or SMS/MMS unless you are lucky and they use your default app. They don’t know what you have set up. This is where the default comes in.
Personal messaging, unless you have coordination between yourself and the party you are ”talking” too defaults to your messaging. If they are anything but iMessage, you get SMS/MMS on the iOS side. On the Android side you get SMS/MMS unless they are sent via RCS (usually the Android default).
It’s a challenge and one I would love see go away - SMS/MMS and be replaced with something else.
Exactly. THey are complaining about Apple users but in reality you should ditch anyone who is judging you over a phone color text bubble.And I have to wonder who judges them and why in their mind. Maybe their life is so shallow and hollow they resort to judge people by their chat bubble colours. And to those “victims”, the correct response should be just walking away.
Carriers still actively support SMS/MMS just as they do RCS.By 2021, in the US, Google’s RCS was adopted as the default messaging app and as a result is preloaded on pretty much every Android device.
’s not an OS incompatibility as far as I’m aware. I don’t believe there’s anything preventing developers from making another messaging app that could be linked with your phone number to receive SMS, MMS, and RCS messages sent to your number. Maybe I’m missing something in that regard, but I haven’t seen anything that would prevent an app like that existing from what I’ve seen. Though at this point, it’s irrelevant since Apple’s Messages app will be adding RCS support.
Might want to step out that RCS bubble...it is not entirely reliable.RCS is very reliable. Maybe a number of years back it had some issues. Those are a thing of the past.
you have an excuse for everything i see.That is the social media promoted headline.
Is the headline wrong? Whether or not it’s “social media promoted” or not has no bearing…That is the social media promoted headline.
It's his way of trying to dismiss the notion that Android users care about green vs blue bubbles.Is the headline wrong? Whether or not it’s “social media promoted” or not has no bearing…
Ya, I’ve seen several times people complaining about the green bubbles, it absolutely is a thing. 👍🏻It's his way of trying to dismiss the notion that Android users care about green vs blue bubbles.
They do.
I just dread the day that Apple loses what makes it uniquely so and we are left with google as the standardYa, I’ve seen several times people complaining about the green bubbles, it absolutely is a thing. 👍🏻
Ya, I use Safari as my main browser. And for non Apple devices, I have Firefox, though I don’t really use non-Apple devices very often at all. So it’s mainly Safari. I love Safari’s tab grid overview, that’s something I miss with other browsers like Firefox. I like Edge as well, but I don’t like that Chromium is taking so much ground.I just dread the day that Apple loses what makes it uniquely so and we are left with google as the standard
I had no idea there was a browser war going on with google and chromium browsers and firefox. I have to stop using edge because it is a chromium based browser and i actually like edge.
From what I understand Apple is working with the GSMA to improve encryption in RCS. Being disappointed in them not moving faster on this is not Apple's fault nor does it require them to open their service to third parties or bring it to Android. If E2EE is vital right now there are a variety of apps that support it cross platform in the meantime.Actually I am not.
What I am asking is that Apple work with others to allow an E2EE standard to be in place and used by all. This would replace or evolve SMS/MMS. The challenge is Apple’s refusal to do that. RCS is the new replacement standard for SMS/MMS and does not require carrier support (though most already have adopted it). I appreciate that Apple is adding RCS in the next year or two to iMessage however, as an Apple (and other OS) user I am very disappointed at the lack of E2EE.
Adding @lkrupp
One more time … it isn’t about access to iMessage.
It’s about the ability to communicate to iMessage from non-Apple devices and from iMessage to non-Apple devices and have E2EE.
Apple is forcing Apple users to use non-E2EE anytime they use iMessage to communicate to a non-iMessage partner. Apple is more concerned about locking in / retaining users than your security / privacy when it comes to messaging.
Until we actually *get* RCS, there will be discussions like this. Just because Apple said they would implement RCS doesn't mean it'll happen. And no, I never trust Apple to not go back on their word. I can't think of a megacorp that I do trust.We are getting RCS, so why is iMessage still such a big discussion point for Android? Literally way more important things to focus on than iMessage which is largely irrelevant in every other country except the US.
If enough people vote the right way, yes. (That is if they can really vote)And governments do the right thing?
So you trust apple to do what they say? I know I don't. (I agree about the second part of your sentence though)The issue Beeper is going to have is Apple has already said RCS is coming next year and Apple has zero obligations to let someone use a security hole in their system.
It’s not about trust. If apple doesn’t deliver functionality I want, or if they aren’t innovative enough for me etc they risk losing me as a customer. I’m noise but in the 10s of millions ouch.So you trust apple to do what they say? I know I don't. (I agree about the second part of your sentence though)
Apple also said they will add collaborative music playlists to Apple Music, do you think they’re just lying about that too? I have no reason to doubt that they will add RCS, just as I have no reason to doubt that they will add collaborative music playlists to Apple Music. 🤷🏼♂️Until we actually *get* RCS, there will be discussions like this. Just because Apple said they would implement RCS doesn't mean it'll happen. And no, I never trust Apple to not go back on their word. I can't think of a megacorp that I do trust.
And maybe even after if Apple's implementation sucks.
A lot here seem to trust we will get RCS, and even next year. I don't. I don't see myself getting a new iPhone at all right now, but not implementing RCS is definitely a point in android's favor.It’s not about trust. If apple doesn’t deliver functionality I want, or if they aren’t innovative enough for me etc they risk losing me as a customer. I’m noise but in the 10s of millions ouch.
I can't comment on that because I don't subscribe to Apple Music, so I haven't been paying attention to it at all.Apple also said they will add collaborative music playlists to Apple Music, do you think they’re just lying about that too?
I hope you're right about RCS, but I wont trust it until it's here.I have no reason to doubt that they will add RCS, just as I have no reason to doubt that they will add collaborative music playlists to Apple Music. 🤷🏼♂️
A lot here seem to trust we will get RCS, and even next year. I don't. I don't see myself getting a new iPhone at all right now, but not implementing RCS is definitely a point in android's favor.
You don’t have to believe them, but I don’t see any good reason not to trust them on this. I don’t know if you know or not, but Apple’s Messages app receiving RCS isn’t just a rumor, Apple officially announced they would be implementing it next year. There’s not really any reason for Apple to lie about it.I can't comment on that because I don't subscribe to Apple Music, so I haven't been paying attention to it at all.
I hope you're right about RCS, but I wont trust it until it's here.
Corporations have to do what they think will make the most money -- things change and projects go bye bye...You don’t have to believe them, but I don’t see any good reason not to trust them on this.
Until we actually get RCS, it doesn't exist for iMessage. Yes, I was aware they officially announced it, but that doesn't make me think it'll happen with no possibility of them going back on their work and officially saying the project to do it was cancelled. Or just letting it disappear for that matter.I don’t know if you know or not, but Apple’s Messages app receiving RCS isn’t just a rumor, Apple officially announced they would be implementing it next year. There’s not really any reason for Apple to lie about it.
I just honestly don’t understand this level of cynicism. I don’t see this reaction every June when Apple announces the new features they’re going to roll out: “they said they will be adding these new features to iOS, but I don’t trust that they’re going to really do it.” Generally, if Apple announces they’re going to add new features to iOS, they actually do.Corporations have to do what they think will make the most money -- things change and projects go bye bye...
Until we actually get RCS, it doesn't exist for iMessage. Yes, I was aware they officially announced it, but that doesn't make me think it'll happen with no possibility of them going back on their work and officially saying the project to do it was cancelled. Or just letting it disappear for that matter.
Why is the onus on Apple to make the lives of their competitor's customers easier?Actually I am not.
What I am asking is that Apple work with others to allow an E2EE standard to be in place and used by all.
It is not a replacement for SMS.MMS. RCS runs at the user data layer just like ALL other messaging apps. It still falls back to SMS when necessary. In order for RCS to replace SMS it has to be adopted and supported by the carrier at the same privileged data layer used by SMS (tower signaling channel or some other process in todays architecture).It is currently the default replacement for SMS/MMS. That change is going to be drawn out as that would significantly impact Apple users. With RCS coming to iMessage, maybe that will speed things up.