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internetrando

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Use the phone and charge it when you need it. Batteries are expendable. When you use them, they start dying. That's just how it works. Battery lives are generally based (rated) on charging cycles. Less cycles generally means less wear. Less wear generally means higher health. In theory, if you never unplug your phone, the battery would be very slow to decline in health (but there is ALWAYS decay).

The worst thing you can do for your battery is deep discharging. The second worst is charging it to 100%. Keep it on the charger as much as you can, and keep it above 20%--preferably above 40% and below 80%. That, coupled with keeping the battery cool (think slow charging and not letting your phone get hot), will make the single largest difference in long-term battery life.

But in all seriousness and reality, just use the damn thing and charge it when it needs to be charged (preferably before 20%). Odds are that you'll get rid of the phone before it needs a new battery. 91% is less than half of the useful life before a battery is claimed as depleted/failed (80% as the bar). If and when it does fail, get it replaced. It's fast, it's easy, and it's pretty cost effective.
 

3Rock

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My battery health is 96% (13 months iPhone 12 Pro) and I place it on a wireless charger at 9 PM and take it off the charger at 6 AM each day. I don’t baby my phone that much as far as charging.
 

doboy

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Jul 6, 2007
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Hey, what’s the best routine to charge my new iphone 13 pro max? i’m worried that if i charge it overnight every night it’ll make the battery bad, i did the same on my 12 and it was at 91%! anyone got any tips? thanks
You honestly think there’s a magical way to keep your battery lifespan from ever depleting? Do you also believe in an elixir that gives you eternal life? Just use the darn thing as intended and replace the battery for measly $100 when time comes or more likely, you would’ve upgraded by then. Turn on battery optimization and charge it overnight.
 
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hxlly17

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Mar 26, 2021
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Great question with some useful answers. My less than 1 year old 12 Pro battery health dropped drastically to 90% (In my opinion for the time I had it) before I sold it and I did wonder what I was doing wrong.
yeah, mine was 91% after a year!
 

Strelok

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Jun 6, 2017
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I basically only used wireless charging and some fast charging on my 11 Pro and that was at I think 90% or something after 1 year. On my 12 Pro I mostly used the 5W brick and a tiny amount of wireless in my car and some fast charging. It was at 100%, although I did get is swapped about halfway through due to a swollen battery.
I’d suggest using the 5W charger at night, avoiding wireless when possible, and using the fast charging when you need to charge quickly.
 
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now i see it

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Jan 2, 2002
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If you get a HomeKit compatible SmartPlug (like the Eve unit Apple sells) you can creats an iOS Shortcut in the Shortcuts App to automatically turn it OFF and ON when the iPhone battery reaches your desired state of charge.
I have mine set up to turn the charger OFF when the battery charge rises above 75% and turn back ON when the battery charge level drops below 65%.

The phone can then be left plugged in all the time with no worries of over charge or under charge.
The upper and lower values can be changed on the fly by just sliding a slider in the app.
It works flawlessly.
 
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hxlly17

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I charged my launch day 12 Pro Max every night with a 5W charging brick. Sold it yesterday and battery capacity was 100% with optimized charging OFF.
so did you charge it overnight with the 5w and take it off charge in the morning?
 

Natzoo

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Sep 16, 2014
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I wouldn’t use the 5W, being this cautious about battery percentage is not needed. As others said, use a home kit plug or just use battery optimization.
 

Banglazed

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Apr 17, 2017
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I charge using 5w, disabled optimized charging, keep charge between 15-90%. I don’t let mines die nor let it charge to 100% often either. Always have a charger in the car or on me so don’t really worry about it dying as much
 

hxlly17

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I charge using 5w, disabled optimized charging, keep charge between 15-90%. I don’t let mines die nor let it charge to 100% often either. Always have a charger in the car or on me so don’t really worry about it dying as much
does turning off optimised charging help? what’s your battery health on?
 

Banglazed

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Apr 17, 2017
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does turning off optimised charging help? what’s your battery health on?
100% on iPhone 12 PM before traded it and got it on launch day. Optimized charging basically try to learn your charging habit esp if you keep it charged at 100% often like overnight charging so it will pause charging up to 80% and continue to charge later to 100% before you wake up. This doesn’t help me. When I plug in, I need it to charge up to 80-90%. I have no set charging routine because I charge whenever it needs to and it never activate for me. I just set shortcut automation to let me know when it reach 80-90% and then unplug it. If you use it, just don’t expect it will learn it right away and may take days and may even try to relearn after updating your phone.
 
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hxlly17

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Mar 26, 2021
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100% on iPhone 12 PM before traded it and got it on launch day. Optimized charging basically try to learn your charging habit esp if you keep it charged at 100% often like overnight charging so it will pause charging up to 80% and continue to charge later to 100% before you wake up. This doesn’t help me. When I plug in, I need it to charge up to 80-90%. I have no set charging routine because I charge whenever it needs to and it never activate for me. I just set shortcut automation to let me know when it reach 80-90% and then unplug it. If you use it, just don’t expect it will learn it right away and may take days and may even try to relearn after updating your phone.
did you get your 5w plug from apple? can’t find the usb c version
 

Banglazed

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did you get your 5w plug from apple? can’t find the usb c version

Unfortunately, the new iPhones no longer include the 5w brick and USB to lightning cable since the switch to USB-C cable with no power brick. Apple still sells them but you’ll be spending a lot to get both and may be cheaper through third party. Might be able to get it from friends who used older iPhones since they may have spares.

If you’re not trying to spend too much, you can get a lowest watt USB-C brick since charging using these produce less heat than fast charging with higher watt bricks.
 

LonestarOne

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Sep 13, 2019
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In addition don’t let your phone drop below 10% before charging it. I usually don’t go below 20%. And don’t max charge. I get mine to around 90% and I’m good.

Well, that’s sort of true, except — the engineers who design batteries and chargers aren’t stupid. 0 and 100%, as shown on the battery gauge, don’t actually represent 0 and 100% charge states. There’s a buffer built into each end, to preserve battery life by preventing over- or under-charging.
 
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Natzoo

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Sep 16, 2014
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what method do you use?
So I used my mac to charge it on Saturday morning but from now on, I am going to use the 20watt USB-C brick. My Xs Max lost 10% in a year from that though but I think it had battery issues. I have applecare+ on this phone so I will just replace it at the end of two years and get a new one if the battery dips below 90%.

The battery life is great on this device, I am at 40% at the end of the day. Might just charge it in the morning with the 20 watt brick.
 

Sammy in SoCal

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Sep 18, 2021
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Well, that’s sort of true, except — the engineers who design batteries and chargers aren’t stupid. 0 and 100%, as shown on the battery gauge, don’t actually represent 0 and 100% charge states. There’s a buffer built into each end, to preserve battery life by preventing over- or under-charging.
Alright before we start can I see the links to this information? information for this specific application, smartphones, and this specific model.
 
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michial

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I charged my 11 pro overnight every night with the official Apple 18W fast charger and often around dinner for 30 minutes. After two years it’s at 100% and battery optimization was on the entire time. You’ll be fine plugging in on the fast. Reverting to the 5W isn’t necessary. It won’t ruin your battery. The iPhone 12 line was known to have not so great batteries.
 

dmx

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Oct 25, 2008
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I’m charging my 13PM with a 5 watt brick overnight and when not in a hurry. It’s great, phone doesn’t get warm at all. Only bummer is I couldn’t find a 5 watt USB-C brick.


I still have a fast charge Anker USB-C brick and the included cable, which I’ll of course use if I need a quick boost. But given the stellar battery life on this phone I don’t expect to need to use fast charging very often.
 

Streetmagus22

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Sep 25, 2015
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Plug it in every night. Its not that complicated. Your charging habits isn't what's going to kill your battery health. It's heat. Don't let it run hot. Don't play games on it with it plugged in and get hot to the touch.

I've had iPhones since the 1st iPhone, had always plugged it overnight every night. Never had an issue. The 11 Pro I had, I did the same. I plug it in whenever I get the chance. Everynight, everytime I'm driving, etc. Battery health was at 91% 2 years later.
 
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