Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I have the RAT mouse as well - love it, easy to adjust, I can program the buttons however I want, just a good solid - if pricey- mouse.


Only beef is that after 6 months, the left mouse button is starting to have issues.
 
Does anyone have any experience actually using the Magic Mouse for any type of serious gaming? I know it isn't as good as a dedicated gaming mouse, but will it work good enough? Does it play well with Windows? Any latency issues?
 
Last edited:
The "Dude";15090566 said:
Does anyone have any experience actually using the Magic Mouse for any type of serious gaming? I know it isn't as good as a dedicated gaming mouse, but will it work good enough? Does it play with with Windows? Any latency issues?

I doubt it would work on windows, but you can game with it on the Mac, I've mostly only used it for minecraft, but the main issue is it will sometimes scroll unwontedly and have me attacking (and wasting) my diamond pick instead of my sward
 
The "Dude";15090566 said:
Does anyone have any experience actually using the Magic Mouse for any type of serious gaming? I know it isn't as good as a dedicated gaming mouse, but will it work good enough? Does it play well with Windows? Any latency issues?

I use to use the Magic Mouse but it's god awfull for gaming and I wouldn't even bother. You really need two physical buttons for a start plus extra buttons wouldn't go a miss either.
 
The "Dude";15090566 said:
Does anyone have any experience actually using the Magic Mouse for any type of serious gaming? I know it isn't as good as a dedicated gaming mouse, but will it work good enough? Does it play well with Windows? Any latency issues?

The magic mouse should work fine in windows, but it is indeed god awful for gaming. The lack of a physical scroll wheel and no physical second button make it totally useless for anything gaming related. We're talking "almost as bad as using a trackpad" levels of bad. Don't even bother.

I am even starting to think it is pretty marginal as an actual mouse.

FWIW I have a Mamba 2012 on my gaming PC, and have an Orochi that I use with my laptop. Both work pretty well although I will admit Razer's software is subpar.
 
The magic mouse should work fine in windows, but it is indeed god awful for gaming. The lack of a physical scroll wheel and no physical second button make it totally useless for anything gaming related. We're talking "almost as bad as using a trackpad" levels of bad. Don't even bother.

I am even starting to think it is pretty marginal as an actual mouse.

FWIW I have a Mamba 2012 on my gaming PC, and have an Orochi that I use with my laptop. Both work pretty well although I will admit Razer's software is subpar.

It does not have too bad latency the main issue is the lack of cording (pressing left and right mouse buttons together). This is used in a few games and means you need alternative and harder to use controls.

Edwin
 
Thanks for the responses re: the Magic Mouse. I'll definitely need something dedicated for gaming. But I'd at least like one that's somewhat attractive and preferably wireless (not worried much about latency as Diablo 3 is the only game I play where it matters much). Civ 5 & Skyrim are my primary games of choice otherwise. Any suggestions?
 
the Razer Orochi offers Wired & wireless, so if your battery gets low you can plug in and keep playing while you charge
 
The "Dude";15125026 said:
Thanks for the responses re: the Magic Mouse. I'll definitely need something dedicated for gaming. But I'd at least like one that's somewhat attractive and preferably wireless (not worried much about latency as Diablo 3 is the only game I play where it matters much). Civ 5 & Skyrim are my primary games of choice otherwise. Any suggestions?

We have a bunch of wireless Logitech mice in the office. They all are good although for performance the ones with USB dongles are very slightly more responsive than the bluetooth ones.

Unless you are a 3D shooter person you might not notice (both are very good) my "weapon of choice" right now in the office is Logitech Performance MX wireless mouse.

Edwin

p.s. We paid for all our mice at Feral in our QA lab so I have no sponsored reason to vote for one mouse over another. :)
 
I've got a logitech performance MX and it works well for me, even on a glass desk :eek:

I'm not a 'pro gamer' though so might not suite anyone elses needs.
 
I've got a logitech performance MX and it works well for me, even on a glass desk :eek:

I'm not a 'pro gamer' though so might not suite anyone elses needs.

I am a Pro Game Maker ;) and it's good enough for me!

Edwin
 
Any usb mouse will work on your mac.

Are you looking for a bluetooth mouse? These are harder to find compatible with mac.

I have a Logitech bluetooth mouse, but I dont recomend it for gaming.

Take a look at Microsoft's mouses, they have some really good ones
 
Used to use quite a few of the higher end Logitechs for Counter-Strike, always fit the hand well and had great control/simplicity. I will probably be purchasing another one soon since I have Steam on here but have yet to download CS:S
 
Short version: buy a Razer DeathAdder, or consider a Logitech Performance MX if you want the flexibility of being wireless and able to track on just about anything.
---

Laser mice are terrible for gaming, I don't think there's a single laser sensor on the market that doesn't have trouble with tracking smoothly on many different surfaces, or having acceleration built in at a hardware level. (even if you disable any software-based acceleration in the drivers)

The same applies to a lot of Optical/IR sensors as well. Here's a list of good mice: http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663

My personal recommendation would be the Razer DeathAdder—specifically the Black Edition, because it has a soft-touch rubber surface rather than glossy sides for extra grip, and doesn't have any LEDs in it. Much nicer looking than the regular mouse in my opinion. It's also one of the best mice available from an ergonomics standpoint. I've seen very few people complain unless they had very small hands. Anyone that was a fan of the old Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (a gaming classic) will love the DeathAdder.


It might not track on glass or some very shiny surfaces, but put it on a real mousepad (I would recommend cloth rather than a hard mat, for the sake of your wrist) and nothing tracks better. No acceleration, no jitter, no angle snapping/correction. One complaint has been lift-off distance, but if you find that to be problematic, putting a strip of frosted scotch tape over the sensor fixes it. (this will work for most optical mice with a high lift-off distance)

It might not have the insanely high DPI/CPI numbers of some other mice, but pro gamers—that is to say people who play in tournaments for money—typically play with about 10" of movement to do a 360° turn. This is about 1600 CPI with a sensitivity of 1.0 in games. There's no reason to go any higher, if anything, some pros will actually use lower sensitivities than that, for greater precision.

And if you have the option, you're typically best running your mouse at 500Hz rather than 1000Hz. Most computers will show stable results polling at 500Hz, whereas the vast majority will not be stable at 1000Hz, and there is no practical difference between 1ms and 2ms input latency when your display is updating at 60Hz (16ms) or 120Hz (8ms)


While Bluetooth mice are convenient if you have a Mac, there's a lot of latency involved with Bluetooth compared to other vendor's wireless implementations. I know that it's a lot more convenient to not have a wireless dongle, or a wired mouse, but it can definitely make a difference.

I would also suggest against purchasing a portable mouse such as the Razer Orochi if you plan on using it all day, or intend on spending a lot of time gaming. I've been using a Logitech MX Anywhere for a while now (chose that instead, because it will track on anything without a mat, which is useful for portability) and my hand cramps up very quickly when using it these days (was fine when I first started using it) and I'm also starting to get pain in that wrist. Even if you want something wireless for the sake of portability, I would strongly suggest a full size palm grip mouse. (I used to use a finger grip, but it's terrible for you) If you don't think you're going to have the opportunity to always have the mouse on a pad, get Logitech's Performance MX if the ergonomics suit you. Personally, Logitech's bigger mice have never been a good fit for my hands. It will also track on just about anything like the Anywhere MX, but won't have you regretting your purchase in a few months. I will warn you that Logitech's battery life estimates are very optimistic. Back when I bought it (I see it has been removed now) it was being advertised as having 3-4 months, well I was lucky to get 1 out of a new pair of AAs. (was actually using Apple's rechargeables)

Another thing that's good with Razer's mice compared to others, is that they use very light switches, which will reduce RSI and is better for games where you're clicking a lot. (you will have a higher APM count using one) If you don't want to develop RSI in your index finger, I strongly suggest you pick a mouse with a light switch. I can't comment on other mice, other than saying that the Anywhere MX has rather stiff switches.


I know people don't rate Razer's build quality, and the mice definitely feel light (being light is a good thing!) but I've never had any problems with them to date. The only people I know that have liked to have a heavy mouse, have been those who have had sensitivity turned up far too high—just because a mouse offers 4000+ DPI doesn't mean you have to use it!
 
Last edited:
I use the Cyborg R.A.T. 5 mouse. Really enjoy it for gaming. When I moved over to a bluetooth wireless mouse with my Mac Mini, it was really difficult to get used to the reduced DPI, as the RAT 5 has extremely accurate tracking.
 
I suggest you to use "Cyborg Mouse", I using it now working very well with Mac.

The R.A.T. I have has endless trouble with lint/dust on the lenses. It also stopped working altogether for some time.

I reverted to a 8-year-old MX315 and I think less is really more.
 
Another vote for the Deathadder 3.5g here. Razer also recently updated their Mac drivers, and the newest iteration, Synapse 2.0 is MUCH better than their previous iterations. Decent UI, simple controls, cool on the fly adjustments (though I don't ever really do them "on-the-fly...").

If you're doing any gaming at all, I would suggest downloading the acceleration fix from this forum:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194668

Just install and restart and the silly OS X acceleration will disappear. You have to use 3rd party drivers to adjust your sensitivity from here on out, though, because playing with the OS mouse dialog will reset the acceleration.

Happy gaming!
 
Does anyone here know of a gaming mouse that will fully work with Steam games like L4D2 and TF2? As in, the game will fully recognize the thumb-buttons on the side of the mouse w/o having USB Overdrive installed.
 
Does anyone here know of a gaming mouse that will fully work with Steam games like L4D2 and TF2? As in, the game will fully recognize the thumb-buttons on the side of the mouse w/o having USB Overdrive installed.

assuming their mice are consistent any Razer mice (I have a Mamba 4G and it all works great (all 7 buttons)
 
I recently got a Razer Orochi and I am liking it a lot so far. Bluetooth pairing was easy, and when using it in wired mode, I like that I can leave the on/off switch "off" so that I won't waste batteries by forgetting to turn it off.
 
I recently bought and received a Macbook Pro w/ Retina, my first experience with the Mac OS. I too looked forward to playing Diablo 3 on it alongside of my other workload. I picked up the Razor DeathAdder and have since returned it. I'm a pretty big guy and too me the mouse just felt very large compared to the mouse I've always used (I'm on my 2nd or 3rd generation of the Logitech G400 - Used to be MX518). I decided to go out and pickup another G400 today and pair it with SteerMouse. No complaints whatsoever with it.

Another note though, I also used like 2-3 different ways to kill the acceleration the OS builds in by default as well. The way this mouse feels is about 85% as good as it does on a Windows machine. Good enough for D3 though since I don't need to be heavily accurate (as if playing an FPS).

Cool... hope that helps.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.