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bumbo

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You're absolutely right I completely mis-read that my apologies!

Then yes it is cheaper than 1P based on that!
 
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It's up to the user who to trust with their most important of data; passwords, credit cards, etc.

Lastpass and 1Password are owned by big companies in North America, Logmein in the USA and Agilebits in Canada, who have both been around for a long long time.

Enpass is owned by some company in India I have never heard of. Not saying they are bad or untrustworthy as I have never hear anything bad about them.

But to me the tried and tested companies is where my money/sensitive data goes personally that are under my local(ish for Canada) law and privacy laws. I have no idea what India does or doesnt do over there or what their government can do/demand.

Remember, just because your laws where you live respect privacy doesnt mean your app devs' do; I use this same argument with apps like Spark email where they store email on their servers and the company is in Ukraine. So this is no hate on Enpass or the likes.

I have idea what the Ukraine government can do to their company or demand from them (access records etc). If they breach your security or actually are selling your data in violation of their policies, what can you honestly hope to do to a company halfway across the world under another country's laws and legal system? So I simply cannot turn my private data/email over to their servers and use their app.
 
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lexvo

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Nov 11, 2009
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It's up to the user who to trust with their most important of data; passwords, credit cards, etc.

Lastpass and 1Password are owned by big companies in North America, Logmein in the USA and Agilebits in Canada, who have both been around for a long long time.

Enpass is owned by some company in India I have never heard of. Not saying they are bad or untrustworthy as I have never hear anything bad about them.

But to me the tried and tested companies is where my money/sensitive data goes personally that are under my local(ish for Canada) law and privacy laws. I have no idea what India does or doesnt do over there or what their government can do/demand.

Remember, just because your laws where you live respect privacy doesnt mean your app devs' do; I use this same argument with apps like Spark email where they store email on their servers and the company is in Ukraine. So this is no hate on Enpass or the likes.

I have idea what the Ukraine government can do to their company or demand from them (access records etc). If they breach your security or actually are selling your data in violation of their policies, what can you honestly hope to do to a company halfway across the world under another country's laws and legal system? So I simply cannot turn my private data/email over to their servers and use their app.

Well, following that reasoning, as an European I don't trust the USA government fully also, because they have a lot of power through the Patriot and Freedom acts. Even stronger: Dutch government departments (and I think other European also) are not allowed to use services which store data on US clouds.

Canada is OK for me however :)

By the way, I don't want to start a privacy debate. Everyone should use the software and services that he/she trusts.
 
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sh65746153

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It's up to the user who to trust with their most important of data; passwords, credit cards, etc.

Lastpass and 1Password are owned by big companies in North America, Logmein in the USA and Agilebits in Canada, who have both been around for a long long time.

Enpass is owned by some company in India I have never heard of. Not saying they are bad or untrustworthy as I have never hear anything bad about them.

But to me the tried and tested companies is where my money/sensitive data goes personally that are under my local(ish for Canada) law and privacy laws. I have no idea what India does or doesnt do over there or what their government can do/demand.

Remember, just because your laws where you live respect privacy doesnt mean your app devs' do; I use this same argument with apps like Spark email where they store email on their servers and the company is in Ukraine. So this is no hate on Enpass or the likes.

I have idea what the Ukraine government can do to their company or demand from them (access records etc). If they breach your security or actually are selling your data in violation of their policies, what can you honestly hope to do to a company halfway across the world under another country's laws and legal system? So I simply cannot turn my private data/email over to their servers and use their app.

you cant trust any app on a closed system like ios with your argumentation. i believe in this case in the power of capitalism, all password app developer have to be careful with their customer data otherwise they destroy their business instantly. north american laws doesnt help you after an potential leak and are indeed counterproductive regarding backdoors and individual privacy, like lexvo said. us, canada, india credibility are equal in that regard, all democracies btw. your argument would stick, when lastpass and 1password would be developed under eg dutch or german law.
 

kaardowiq

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Dec 20, 2018
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Zürich, Switzerland
Moved from KeepassX (OpenSource) to EnPass 5.6. Everything was fine till it has been updated to the new 6.x version. After reconfiguration everything works again, it can even use keefiles + passwords together, now. Syncing with 4 iOS devices (3x iOS 9.x, 1x iOS 12.1.2) and tree Macs works fine. Just missing a possibility to access it from CLI via Terminal.
 
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