1. I agree
2. I'm still upset
3. What to do?!!
Btw, Apple was less guilty in previous betas because they never promoted battery life as the main feature.
This time round, they did, with a full-screen slide. Can't blame us
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1. I agree
2. I'm still upset
3. What to do?!!
Btw, Apple was less guilty in previous betas because they never promoted battery life as the main feature.
This time round, they did, with a full-screen slide. Can't blame us
Who is up in arms? Those of us with severe battery drain on our primary devices probably accept the risks of running beta software - particularly early beta.
As a hobbyist developer I don't have any particular driver to have a development device. I'm not complaining about it at all, but I am looking forward to a resolution.
Beta software is not a demo nor is it a preview. A demo is meant to demonstrate something to the public, while beta software is meant to test software so that bugs can be eliminated, and so that final improvements can be made. It is not made for public mainstream consumption. Even public beta testing is generally limited and not meant for mainstream consumption. Betas often don't come with everything that has been advertised for a final version.
Apple was probably fully aware of the bad battery life when the first beta was released. But they likely don't care at this point... And are focusing on other things... That in the end will make it all come together. Apple doesn't focus on making beta versions of software stable enough for people to be reliant upon to use as a daily driver... So if you think that Apple owes you anything during the beta cycle you're highly mistaken.
The developer preview/beta program is not intended for you to have a stable version of iOS 9 earlier than everybody else. It's meant to help app developers test apps on its new operating system and have the opportunity to implement new APIs. And it also helps Apple to work out bugs... Public beta testing helps this on a much grander scale... It will likely have more stability but you still shouldn't bring yourself to expect anything.
The point being if you want to run beta versions of software and have access to it earlier than everyone else... Great!! But expect bugs, stop bitching about it, and don't act like apple owes you anything... Because, after all, it's a Beta.
I'd venture to say that beta software, especially at this stage of iOS's life, shouldn't halve a device's battery life.
Is that why they call it "Developer Preview"?
I for one, know Apple owes us b2.
Who are you to say what it should do? How do you know that Apple isn't testing something or that they have something running in the background that intentionally affects the battery life. How do you know that there's not an issue that they're aware of but need to fix other things before they can fix that?
Most importantly.. Why do you have expectations of something that's an incomplete product. You don't know what apples development process is. You don't know what their goals are up to this point... Or up to any point for that matter. How do you know that iOS nine isn't 50% more stable than they expected it to be at this point? You don't.
So why don't you just wait until it's released to the public to judge it... And stop making assumptions about where it should be at this point... because you don't know where it should be at this point.
Yeah that's why they call it a developer preview and not a public preview... And on the iPhone they don't even call it a preview they call it a Beta.
Read that again and tell me that is not the stupidest thing you've ever heard.
Tim Cook: "Hey, iOS software developers, I want you guys to put a script into beta 1 that screws up everyone's battery life."
Well said. I expected bugs and they're there can't bitch about it I made the decision to install beta Apple did not force this on me.
I hope the battery life improves in the next beta however I don't feel any sense of entitlement that Apple "Has" to fix this in the next beta.
Apple promised the extended battery life with the public release of iOS 9 not with the betas unless I was watching a completely different keynote.
It would be different if Apple had borked the public release like they did not too long ago.
If people's expectations were not met with this beta they should seriously reconsider downloading beta's in the future, my iPhone & apple watch have taken a hit with this but ultimately it was my choice to try it out no one to blame but me.
No they wouldn't be testing ways to intentionally make the battery life bad.... But they could very well be testing how certain things affect of the battery life... That's not exactly what I meant though.
I meant that they could intentionally be testing things that they know affects the battery life.. But just don't care at this point because they are working on more important things... That will in the end make battery life better.
The main point being... you don't know their process you don't know their goals and you don't know where they should be at this point.
My comment was directed at those who expected Apple to deliver all of their promises in a beta (I don't like to call people out by name, just read through some threads). Not those who are well aware of the issues that come along with beta testing.
While I do understand the appeal of non-developers beta testing, I just simply cannot fathom a thought process that involves complaining about imperfections in the first release of software that was not meant to run on a primary device.
Exactly. After retiring from my first career, I now work in IT as a liaison between systems programmers and the end user community. We are constantly activating monitors, trace facilities, etc that affect the performance in a big and negative way. We KNOW that it will happen. It's the cost of running those tools - with the end result of creating clean, tight code. You sacrifice performance (including battery life) in the early versions to create the big gains down the road. I am beyond amazed that some people just don't get it.
It's not for daily use so there is no need for the battery to be any good until the beta period is over at GM. They'll probably fix it before that though.
Well the first part is fair enough. It's naive in the extreme to expect better battery life in a beta.
As for the second part of your response I personally take everything on merit. One cannot expect a bug-free release, but where the issue is as widespread and serious and this battery life one would expect it to be in the "Known Issues" section of the release notes.
They probably want it out at the same time as the debut of Apple Music.
There's no actual reason for them to delay iOS updates for the Apple Music launch. They've shown they're able to remotely change UI features like the tab bar.
I can't believe people are using the battery mention in the keynote to complain about the battery life in THE FIRST BETA!
Send a bug report, make sure Apple knows and then if it's still this bad by beta 4 or 5 you can whine and complain. Again, this is not supposed to be used as your main device. If you choose to do so, you need to live with the limitations.
Send a bug report, make sure Apple knows and then if it's still this bad by beta 4 or 5 you can whine and complain. Again, this is not supposed to be used as your main device. If you choose to do so, you need to live with the limitations.
Except they have been mucking with the power management in iOS 9. Some of that work is to change how background refresh works based on the battery level. So... uh, yeah. I'm not entirely surprised that there is a bug in a section of the OS they are actively working on. And I'd be surprised if they do their internal testing with random 3rd party apps before checking code in. Especially if what I've heard about their (lack of) automated testing is true.
I doubt 3rd party apps are the problem. My device was draining before I downloaded any apps at all.
- Source? I must've missed something.
- If you're referring to how Background App Refresh is disabled in Low Power Mode, that doesn't count.
Here's another thread to continue the d̶i̶s̶c̶u̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ b*tching about the iOS 9 Beta 2 release date...
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/22/ios-8-4-gm-ios-9-beta-2-release-date/
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/22/ios-8-4-gm-ios-9-beta-2-release-date/
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