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Better phone for the next two years: iPhone or Galaxy S4?
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I'd expect the S4 to get the next update after kit kat but nothing else.
Samsung are quite good with updates. Although they can be slow I think they are pretty fair. My original galaxy note started on gingerbread and eventually got to jelly bean.
As I said earlier, theres no point having a discussion with someone thats so closed minded.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You dislike the look of Android, I dislike the look of a grid of icons.
Of course, Apple with never target people with customised ads would they
iAd anyone?PS - Its customisation, not costumisation.
Great point Dave.UK ..you can't open a closed mind. You can't make someone appreciate something if their mind is already closed to begin with.As I said earlier, theres no point having a discussion with someone thats so closed minded.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You dislike the look of Android, I dislike the look of a grid of icons.
Of course, Apple with never target people with customised ads would they
PS - Its customisation, not costumisation.
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Then you never looked .the amount of customization in Android is un equaled in IOS. You can make it into whatever you want. But if there is no imagination then .yes i see your point now ..
Go with the galaxy s 4,or better yet the Nexus 5 and chose your own carrier.
The nexus 5 is currently the best phone out AND it retails for only 350(16gb) or 400 (32gb).
No contract
The nexus 5 is currently the best phone out AND it retails for only 350(16gb) or 400 (32gb).
No contract
You get extra features on a rooted device and complete protection from a system wipe.
Its brilliant software without superuser access but that little bit better with it.
Interesting... I'll check this out. Thanks man
As I said earlier, theres no point having a discussion with someone thats so closed minded.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You dislike the look of Android, I dislike the look of a grid of icons.
Of course, Apple with never target people with customised ads would they
PS - Its customisation, not costumisation.
im closed minded because every android customisation i saw was ugly? its just ugly, plain and simple... fiat multipla is just ugly, plain and simple. you can put whatever color you want, change the wheels, tyres, details. but its still gonna be ugly. you know why? because they didnt even try. it wasnt supposed to be beautiful. its serves a function, its spacious, its cheap. just like android.
and for iads, its was just a way to further finance developers, nothing big. google lives from the ads, 90% of their revenue comes from ads. and how much from their products? - we are the product they are selling...
ps - im still waiting for that screenshot, so i can see whats beautiful to you...
yeah, and the quality of music is in the ears of the listener... and the quality of movies is in the eyes of the watcher... you get my point...
now please, a screenshot
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show me the beauty of android, its so simple, just post a screenshot, open my closed eyes, enlighten my closed mind so i can see the masterpiece of a world famous and renowned google design... both hardware and software...
This really comes down to whether you prefer Android or iOS.
The 5S is faster (processor/GPU), has a better camera, better battery life and is "newer", while the GS4 has more RAM and a larger, higher PPI display.
The iPhone will receive updates longer and will likely be supported by Apple (in stores and via tech support) longer. Apple has the best overall customer service in the industry.
The iPhone will also hold its value better - i.e. a 2 year old 5S will be worth more on, say eBay, than a 2 year old GS4.
That being said, if you prefer Android none of this makes a lick of difference. If you don't care about the OS, the iPhone is the way to go unless you absolutely need/want the bigger screen.
The 5S is faster (processor/GPU), has a better camera, better battery life and is "newer", while the GS4 has more RAM and a larger, higher PPI display.
The iPhone will receive updates longer and will likely be supported by Apple (in stores and via tech support) longer. Apple has the best overall customer service in the industry.
The iPhone will also hold its value better - i.e. a 2 year old 5S will be worth more on, say eBay, than a 2 year old GS4.
That being said, if you prefer Android none of this makes a lick of difference. If you don't care about the OS, the iPhone is the way to go unless you absolutely need/want the bigger screen.
Certainly not. However, I wish there existed a Cadillac Android phone with just vanilla Android, but the Nexus 5 is close less build materials.
I called you closed minded because I can tell by your attitude that anything anyone says about Android you will argue against.
As for seeing a screenshot of my home setup, that wont be happening. My phone has been set up the way I like it. Why I need to show it to you is beyond me.
I knew you would say iAds is "nothing big" because its an Apple product!
I called you closed minded because I can tell by your attitude that anything anyone says about Android you will argue against.
As for seeing a screenshot of my home setup, that wont be happening. My phone has been set up the way I like it. Why I need to show it to you is beyond me.
I knew you would say iAds is "nothing big" because its an Apple product!
Not to get into the middle of this argument, but the bolded really isn't necessary either.
The two are not the same - Google ads and iAds. Regardless of what we all may think each company does with our information, the point is Apple makes a bulk of its corporate revenue from hardware sales, while Google lives on advertising revenue.
There's a reason Apple refuses to sell cheap devices, while Google has no problem pricing the Nexus 5 at $350.
So to say the reason he sees these two differently is because of some Apple blind loyalty is a little insulting. They are two completely different programs and have completely different importance within their respective companies.
That's all. You know I have no problem with you Dave and have enjoyed your posts here. Just thought I could clear that little bit up as anytime I see the "of course you'd think that because its an Apple product" line I get a little bothered under the collar
Not to get into the middle of this argument, but the bolded really isn't necessary either.
The two are not the same - Google ads and iAds. Regardless of what we all may think each company does with our information, the point is Apple makes a bulk of its corporate revenue from hardware sales, while Google lives on advertising revenue.
There's a reason Apple refuses to sell cheap devices, while Google has no problem pricing the Nexus 5 at $350.
So to say the reason he sees these two differently is because of some Apple blind loyalty is a little insulting. They are two completely different programs and have completely different importance within their respective companies.
That's all. You know I have no problem with you Dave and have enjoyed your posts here. Just thought I could clear that little bit up as anytime I see the "of course you'd think that because its an Apple product" line I get a little bothered under the collar
Apple still deliver ads based on information they have about you so the ads are tailored to your needs - exactly the same way Google do.
Just because Apple isnt as successful as Google when it comes to ads, dosent mean they dont still operate in a similar way.
Mmm - not sure if I agree.
But the point is, its not a focus of Apple's to "sell user information". However you see it, the point that "we" are Google's product is pretty true.
I'm not saying I have a problem with it (I don't), but there are some who see this and, despite Apple's iAds perhaps working similarly or the same way (I don't know the inner workings so I'm not making a specific statement), see them as different because of each company's focus.
Is this not a valid point? Again - I'm not saying I feel this way, but I could see someone else feeling this way. And if they do, so what?
I also don't ever see ads on my iPhone....or if they're there, they're extremely inconspicuous. Apps will throw ads in front of me, but there isn't really any targeting involved.
EDIT: Here's why - can't remember what options like this are available in Android. Currently without an Android phone so I can't check. Feel free to to add.
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Activating that in ios means you will still receive adds, they just wont be targeted towards you.
Android offers a similar option:
The point I was originally trying to make is that everyone knows Google is an advertising company and are often quick enough to throw this around in a debate, however Apple also dabbles in advertising with iAds.
iAds builds up a user profile to target ads just as Google does. Apple still makes money this way, just not as much as Google does.
Thanks for that screenshot - I assumed there was something like that there.
I understand what you're saying. Doesn't change the perception that Apple is making its money off the hardware it sells you, Google makes its money off of you.
Regardless of if there truly are differences in the ad tracking, one makes it their primary business, the other uses it as a supplement to help devs. You can't honestly say that they are completely equal.
At any rate - didn't mean to hijack this. Was simply pointing out a differing viewpoint and that there is some validity to it. That's all. Continue using whatcha like!
Huh? You can run an iOS theme on Android if you wanted too. It looks IDENTICAL to iOS.
If you have two things that look identical but still say one is ugly....well that's just something else, nothing to do with the actual appearance and ultimately a reflection on ones character.
I used android for a long time and now iOS even longer and I much prefer iOS and the iPhone to any android product. However to say iOS 7 (renowned for it's ugly Easter looks, I don't mind it) is better looking then anything anyone else could ever imagine (because the sky is the limit, you can even change and create icons on Android) is a stretch to say the least.
And what is it with terrible analogies on this forum?
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Here is how ugly Android OS can be!
Yuck!
what are you on
What experience do you have actually deploying services, devices, machines to users) (setting up your friends and families phones doesn't count) iCloud better than Exchange? Apple Care better than enterprise level tech support with instant on site replacement? No mid or large business is going to be calling up applecare for technical support. They have their own in house teams with solutions already available to them with their own carrier reps.
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I am actually, just couldn't do it with a Samsung
In what capacity are you qualified to be deploying phones to an enterprise or even small business? Because you have demonstrated none of these traits. Walk into an large scale operation and ask them if they walk into an Apple Store Genius Bar and talk to a 21 year old college student for their tech support.
Google edition, though they are getting a bit old for the price and it may be best to wait for the next round of s5 & Htc one 2014.
It would be nice if carriers would offer them for the folks that take the subsidized route.
Huh? You can run an iOS theme on Android if you wanted too. It looks IDENTICAL to iOS.
If you have two things that look identical but still say one is ugly....well that's just something else, nothing to do with the actual appearance and ultimately a reflection on ones character.
I used android for a long time and now iOS even longer and I much prefer iOS and the iPhone to any android product. However to say iOS 7 (renowned for it's ugly Easter looks, I don't mind it) is better looking then anything anyone else could ever imagine (because the sky is the limit, you can even change and create icons on Android) is a stretch to say the least.
And what is it with terrible analogies on this forum?
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Here is how ugly Android OS can be!
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Yuck!
Yeah, i saw that. It doesnt have proper gaussian blur, nor animations, nor physics.
By you saying that those two look exactly the same, i can come to a conclusion that you dont pay attention to details, which means you cant understand what makes ios, well, ios
Android is ugly. By that i mean both looks and feel. You cant change that with a theme... The same way you cant make windows 7 mavericks with a theme of icons
If you have to ask yourself that question, go for the galaxy.
Why?
Samsung will overload this phone again and again, the spec sheet will look amazing and you will not use any of the features at all.
You want change? Buy the next plastic thingy pushed at you.
Why?
Samsung will overload this phone again and again, the spec sheet will look amazing and you will not use any of the features at all.
You want change? Buy the next plastic thingy pushed at you.