Blasphemous statement made by a relative on Easter.

[mikezmac]

I had easter with a cousin this year. He's pretty nerdy. He and his wife both have apple watches and its tacky as hell. Anyways, he's made some asinine claims.

1. Apple doesnt make a device with an OLED screen because no supplier can keep up with apples demand.
This might be true but I heard, according to Tim Cook, that the OLED screens were too bright and colorful, thus giving the user a distorted image. Cook specifically pointed out that buying something, like clothing, online with an OLED screen is downright foolish.

2. The A9x chip in the ipad pro is more powerful than the chips in the surface tablets, except for the i7. I nearly lost my ish on this one. For a moment I thought he may be right, because he is the resident fanboy and he is in the tech industry, but then I thought no way in hell. I've never heard of an ARM chip beating out any x86 chip. Its not like its impossible, but I have yet to see it. I heard the A9x chip was more comparable to chips from 3-4 years ago. Skylake is 14nm while the A9x is 16nm. The only way that chip could pull ahead is if its straight up designed better. Further, the A9x is designed for a tablet. The core i5 a laptop chip in a tablet. When looking at google I see that the A9x is actually comparable to a Core M-- you know, that cheap intel chip that is as powerful as the chips from 3-4 years ago.

3. He refused to acknowledge that Panos Panay and his team at MS out-designed Apple ipad pro with the surface. I brought up the obvious things and he was like "nah, I love my ipad," as if the keyboard, adjustable stand, magnetic stylus, and fully functional PC was an Orwellian "non-device."

I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff.

1. You're correct, color correctness on oled is poor and that's why apple hasn't adopted it yet. Also there are many more oled put out each year than Apple retina displays. Android has a user base that is much much larger than Apple.

2. The A9 chip is pretty great. There's more to a phone than that, but so far benchmarks are good on it

3. I owned the surface and I own an iPad Pro. They are nothing alike except for the most basic principals.
I did not like the surface at all. I love the iPad. I'll leave it at that.

 

[TrueBlou]

I had easter with a cousin this year. He's pretty nerdy. He and his wife both have apple watches and its tacky as hell. Anyways, he's made some asinine claims.

1. Apple doesnt make a device with an OLED screen because no supplier can keep up with apples demand.
This might be true but I heard, according to Tim Cook, that the OLED screens were too bright and colorful, thus giving the user a distorted image. Cook specifically pointed out that buying something, like clothing, online with an OLED screen is downright foolish.

2. The A9x chip in the ipad pro is more powerful than the chips in the surface tablets, except for the i7. I nearly lost my ish on this one. For a moment I thought he may be right, because he is the resident fanboy and he is in the tech industry, but then I thought no way in hell. I've never heard of an ARM chip beating out any x86 chip. Its not like its impossible, but I have yet to see it. I heard the A9x chip was more comparable to chips from 3-4 years ago. Skylake is 14nm while the A9x is 16nm. The only way that chip could pull ahead is if its straight up designed better. Further, the A9x is designed for a tablet. The core i5 a laptop chip in a tablet. When looking at google I see that the A9x is actually comparable to a Core M-- you know, that cheap intel chip that is as powerful as the chips from 3-4 years ago.

3. He refused to acknowledge that Panos Panay and his team at MS out-designed Apple ipad pro with the surface. I brought up the obvious things and he was like "nah, I love my ipad," as if the keyboard, adjustable stand, magnetic stylus, and fully functional PC was an Orwellian "non-device."

I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff.

1. Yes they do, the Apple Watch.

2. Not current higher level chips obviously, but older and lower performance chips, yes.

3. Purely subjective. As for the mouse pad comments, it's a tablet designed for touch, doesn't need one. When you want precision, use the Pencil.

And yes, I've used a SP4, and other Windows tablets (I even own one) it's a good laptop, but a worse tablet. Microsoft are definitely making improvements but until I can manage everything without having to drop down to the desktop and use a keyboard and mouse, something I've yet to be able to manage, they haven't quite nailed it. But of course that's just my opinion, which in itself is subjective, everyone has their own preferences.

 

[roadbloc]

Lol who cares?

 

[TrueBlou]

Lol who cares?

Nobody really, but it's fun to poke sticks sometimes

 

[MRU]

You're misinterpreting my tone and point. This isn't about Apple products vs the rest.

You are right... It's actually about seeking validation of your subjective opinions (formulated from select sources on the internet), from what are essentially more random strangers on the internet.

Do either of you own and iPad pro or a surface pro ?
If not .. why argue over something so inane.?
If so .. why argue over something so inane.?

Does at the end of the day, the subjective personal opinion of someone else undermine your own ?

and frankly by posting something as nasty & hateful "as hoping his wife leaves him" on a public forum, ANY merit you may have thought your post had, was flushed down the toilet.

 

[jbachandouris]

Wow...just wow....you actually posted that in a public space, over a disagreement about inanimate objects.

I know, right? I can't tell OP what I think of him and his elitist attitude without being banned. SMH.

 

[mikezmac]

Your souls

Are you sure, mine's tainted

 

[TrueBlou]

I know, right? I can't tell OP what I think of him and his elitist attitude without being banned. SMH.

For future use, I'm not saying in this case obviously, but for life in general when one requires not to spew forth obscenities. Might I suggest employing the use of some techniques employed by Billy Connolly, for example, gotti fu ya bassa. Conscience clear

 

[bensisko]

On the Surface design -
I also own a Surface Pro 3. It's a very neat device and the design elements work well within the surface design, but they wouldn't work at all within the established iPad design.
The Surface design works well for what it is - a hybrid device. The iPad is not a hybrid device.

It really comes down to what you want and use it for. For example - I bought the SP3 mainly for drawing - holding it for hours while I draw was super annoying. When I held it for long periods of time, I started to question the design - you start to notice how clumsy it is. When I hold my iPad Pro for long periods of time, I notice how much easier it is, specifically because of the thinner design and rounded corners and edges.

There are a lot of other little things that creep up with the Surface Pro 3 design as well. I give them credit (I'm one of the minority who liked the kickstand on the original surface), the SP3 is a very nice design, but the team at Cuperentino still wins out with the iPad as far as I'm concerned.

Also, just a side... I can't look at the Surface Book without cringing! What were they thinking with that horrid hinge design???

 

[taelan28]

Everyone here who properly commented on the issues had more thought, and intelligence than my cousin. You have given me more conversational value than he did. Everyone here seems to prefer the ipad pro to the surface--which honestly surprises me, but this is an apple site preferences are obviously skewed as political opinions would be in Texas or New York-- but you at least acknowledged the features, or tried them out on the surface so there's no use in arguing.

While writing my previous post I discovered what I was really looking for: an honest conversation from a techie and his thoughts on competing products. What I got was an antiquated Apple fanboy response, no real detail as to why he has his preferences, and no acknowledgement of what other products brought to the table, and total worship at the altar of Apple--which is a mindset thats dated as hell. I expect everyone here to have favorable opinions and preferences towards apple products, but with reason and sacrificing paychecks at the altar of Apple.

It would have been like:

• asking a chevy gear head about the new Ford GT and getting a response like "Psssht, Found Off Road Destroyed. The Corvette is faster. A yellow one looks like bumblebee" as opposed to a detailed response.
• Asking a sports writer about the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry's monster year and getting a response like "Basketball is for actors, football and hockey are real man's games. I enjoy watching them and drinking beer".
• Asking a film critic and comic fan about Batman v Superman (a great topic worth discussing), and moving on about how great the marvel cinematic universe is and what a wonderful human being Robert Downey Jr. is.

This topic was initially better received on the Sega forums. http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?534030-Blasphemous-statements-made-by-family-on-Easter
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On the Surface design -
I also own a Surface Pro 3. It's a very neat device and the design elements work well within the surface design, but they wouldn't work at all within the established iPad design.
The Surface design works well for what it is - a hybrid device. The iPad is not a hybrid device.

It really comes down to what you want and use it for. For example - I bought the SP3 mainly for drawing - holding it for hours while I draw was super annoying. When I held it for long periods of time, I started to question the design - you start to notice how clumsy it is. When I hold my iPad Pro for long periods of time, I notice how much easier it is, specifically because of the thinner design and rounded corners and edges.

There are a lot of other little things that creep up with the Surface Pro 3 design as well. I give them credit (I'm one of the minority who liked the kickstand on the original surface), the SP3 is a very nice design, but the team at Cuperentino still wins out with the iPad as far as I'm concerned.

Also, just a side... I can't look at the Surface Book without cringing! What were they thinking with that horrid hinge design???

I was specifically referring to the iPad Pro as a hybrid device vs the Surface as a hybrid device. Alas you made you points and I really liked them. You acknowledged what each device had, how you use it, and how you like it or dont like it. Your information and opinion would be very useful to anyone.

The surface book is a mess. Its a great idea on paper, and they did the best they could to implement it, and Im sure version 2 will be more refined. I guess it comes down to mindset. As Panos said: people came to him and said "I like the surface, but I want a surface laptop" so they did what they could. You need to see the detachable screen as a clip board, or something you hand off to someone for a short period of time rather than believing it should work as well and long as a tablet. Plenty of devices have detachable keyboards, but none out there have expandable processing and battery power in the keyboard module.
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The Federal Reserve? Are you serious? You still didn't manage to exclude politics, btw, and you're being super dramatic.

By politics I'm referring to people running for office or using bogus stats to prove points to manipulate people against each other, demonize the competition, energize the base, and tell everyone in the middle that they're already on my side but they dont even know it.

That subject about monetary policy was more academic than it was political. The kind of monetary backing a nation uses is of little importance so long as there is backing. Whats important is how much that nation produces such as food, machinery and services.

 

[lowendlinux]

I had easter with a cousin this year. He's pretty nerdy. He and his wife both have apple watches and its tacky as hell. Anyways, he's made some asinine claims.

1. Apple doesnt make a device with an OLED screen because no supplier can keep up with apples demand.
This might be true but I heard, according to Tim Cook, that the OLED screens were too bright and colorful, thus giving the user a distorted image. Cook specifically pointed out that buying something, like clothing, online with an OLED screen is downright foolish.

2. The A9x chip in the ipad pro is more powerful than the chips in the surface tablets, except for the i7. I nearly lost my ish on this one. For a moment I thought he may be right, because he is the resident fanboy and he is in the tech industry, but then I thought no way in hell. I've never heard of an ARM chip beating out any x86 chip. Its not like its impossible, but I have yet to see it. I heard the A9x chip was more comparable to chips from 3-4 years ago. Skylake is 14nm while the A9x is 16nm. The only way that chip could pull ahead is if its straight up designed better. Further, the A9x is designed for a tablet. The core i5 a laptop chip in a tablet. When looking at google I see that the A9x is actually comparable to a Core M-- you know, that cheap intel chip that is as powerful as the chips from 3-4 years ago.

3. He refused to acknowledge that Panos Panay and his team at MS out-designed Apple ipad pro with the surface. I brought up the obvious things and he was like "nah, I love my ipad," as if the keyboard, adjustable stand, magnetic stylus, and fully functional PC was an Orwellian "non-device."

I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff.

1) Apple doesn't use OLED because it's had issues until recently as well as the other reasons

2) The A9 chip does beat some x86 in Geekbench but that's not real world use, in the real world it's really a toss up which is faster keeping in mind the limitations of iOS and the weight of a full desktop. Second Core M isn't cheap the top end is a $400 processor.

3) The IPP, SP, and Pixel are all well designed it really comes down to which you prefer.

It occurs to me that there were a lot of silly things being said and those words were likely lubricated with a bit of wine/beer/booze I think it's best to stop comparing things at the dinner table.

 

[MRU]

This topic was initially better received on the Sega forums. http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?534030-Blasphemous-statements-made-by-family-on-Easter

Wow so your opening post wasn't just an impulsive rant post in this forum - you actually posted the tirade on other forums and wished his wife would leave him there too. That's real classy.

It occurs to me that there were a lot of silly things being said and those words were likely lubricated with a bit of wine/beer/booze I think it's best to stop comparing things at the dinner table.

Sadly the booze doesn't go on to explain posting such vitriol against a relative in two separate public forums after the event. That took pre-meditation and after thought to do so.

While writing my previous post I discovered what I was really looking for: an honest conversation from a techie and his thoughts on competing products.

An honest conversation doesn't end with, "I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff." ..... If that's what you really wanted then maybe more thought could have been put into your opening post, especially as you took the time to post it on multiple fora.

 

[taelan28]

Wow so your opening post wasn't just an impulsive rant post in this forum - you actually posted the tirade on other forums and wished his wife would leave him there too. That's real classy.



Sadly the booze doesn't go on to explain posting such vitriol against a relative in two separate public forums after the event. That took pre-meditation and after thought to do so.




An honest conversation doesn't end with, "I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff." ..... If that's what you really wanted then maybe more thought could have been put into your opening post, especially as you took the time to post it on multiple fora.

Your moral grandstanding is getting an equal amount of cringe from me.

There was no honest conversation with him, thus it didn't end with that--but my conclusion to his bloviating does end with such statements. What he said didn't change from early sunday afternoon to monday night when I posted, so my thoughts about it didnt change either.

How do I post on two forums? Copy and paste. I've been frequenting Sega Forums since '01 and given the subject I (mistakenly) valued (most of) the responses I would get here. Maybe it comes down to style as well. I frequent forums and websites that often post abrasive stuff and its gets the lols, but still manages to focus on points. These forums tend to perpetually focus on what everyone is buying next, or if its the right time to buy the Apple product out now, or wait until the next one.

I originally came here because I was considering a mac in late 2013. It was a bad time to buy a Windows machine as 8.1 was not out, the Surface pro 2 was not available where I was that year, and nothing on the market had a retina class display or the build quality, so I came to these forums to ask questions about OSX and apple hardware (Does it have right click?), because I loathed them for years. People on this forum answered my questions in detail and I've been a happy mac owner ever since.

 

[sartrekid]

I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff.

Your cousin could be wrong on all counts with his views on Apple's chipset and OLED. To be all worked up about it is ridiculous, but people virtually murder themselves all the time over mundane specs. The above quote, however, colors your entire post despicable. Wishing a family member bad luck for insisting that he knows why Apple didn't pick one screen technology over the other and stating that the A9 chip is as powerful as the i5 chip? Really?

And no, many people here are not blind Apple fanboys/girls. If you'd spent some time on these forums, you'd know that. Yet another completely over the top assessment.

 

[taelan28]

Your cousin could be wrong on all counts with his views on Apple's chipset and OLED. To be all worked up about it is ridiculous, but people virtually murder themselves all the time over mundane specs. The above quote, however, colors your entire post despicable. Wishing a family member bad luck for insisting that he knows why Apple didn't pick one screen technology over the other and stating that the A9 chip is as powerful as the i5 chip? Really?

And no, many people here are not blind Apple fanboys/girls. If you'd spent some time on these forums, you'd know that. Yet another completely over the top assessment.

My cousin disqualified himself as an intelligent person to me and I've stated why ad-nauseum. If you're a professional in your field, and going to give me blanket, inaccurate statement thats counter to reality then I have no use for your economic productivity or skill set. I dont want you hanging around my kids too long (dont have any, just saying), I cant trust you to stand witness in court, I cant trust you to report valuable information to me at work, I cant lend you money, I cant trust you to carry out a work order, or to accurately perceive reality. Call me what you want from that but I call them like I see them.

As for wishing ill on him thats a bit hyperbolic. I wish ill on him the same way one would wish a speeding ticket on someone going 90mph. I don't like his perception of reality, or his responses--not because he disagrees with me but HOW he disagrees with me and HOW he comes to those conclusions. Every single person who made an effort to respond to the points I brought forward I respectfully disagree with and I like how they came to their conclusions. I like how they see things even though its not the same as me. Maybe his idiocy is what got him into a legally binding contract where his partner, who has a 70% chance of initiating the break up, gets half his stuff and likely has 70% control of the consumer spending in his family and we aren't even getting to kids yet. His idiocy over time is what would lead his wife to filing for divorce. If this language is too strong for you to handle then go talk to someone about your feelings.

"And no, many people here are not blind Apple fanboys/girls. If you'd spent some time on these forums, you'd know that. Yet another completely over the top assessment."

You misread what I said... eff that... you didnt even read it. I have spent some time on these forums. I knew that everyone here prefers apple products and is biased toward them, but they are not blind toward them. My cousin is an apple fanboy that I didn't even know was still around. He's the kind that believes that every feature Apple has is perfect while a feature an android or windows device has is flawed if he even acknowledges its existence. Everyone here can respect the offerings of other companies by, at the very least, acknowledging them.

I posted this on two different forums to also contrast. Posting this on a hardcore PC forum would have gotten relentless laughter and I would have patted myself on the back for being "right" and him being another foolish apple fanboy the way the rest of the world views apple fanboys. I posted here because I respect the proven ability of members here to be partial to information though they skew towards apple. It wasnt meant to troll, but rather exercise thought, bring up points that I may not know about, or humor that "not all apple fans are like that" from a pool of people that do not agree with me. Most people here did a great job after y'all got over the initial shock and started properly reading and responding.

 

[sartrekid]

My cousin disqualified himself as an intelligent person to me and I've stated why ad-nauseum. If you're a professional in your field, and going to give me blanket, inaccurate statement thats counter to reality then I have no use for your economic productivity or skill set. I dont want you hanging around my kids too long (dont have any, just saying), I cant trust you to stand witness in court, I cant trust you to report valuable information to me at work, I cant lend you money, I cant trust you to carry out a work order, or to accurately perceive reality. Call me what you want from that but I call them like I see them.

As for wishing ill on him thats a bit hyperbolic. I wish ill on him the same way one would wish a speeding ticket on someone going 90mph. I don't like his perception of reality, or his responses--not because he disagrees with me but HOW he disagrees with me and HOW he comes to those conclusions. Every single person who made an effort to respond to the points I brought forward I respectfully disagree with and I like how they came to their conclusions. I like how they see things even though its not the same as me. Maybe his idiocy is what got him into a legally binding contract where his partner, who has a 70% chance of initiating the break up, gets half his stuff and likely has 70% control of the consumer spending in his family and we aren't even getting to kids yet. His idiocy over time is what would lead his wife to filing for divorce. If this language is too strong for you to handle then go talk to someone about your feelings.

"And no, many people here are not blind Apple fanboys/girls. If you'd spent some time on these forums, you'd know that. Yet another completely over the top assessment."

You misread what I said... eff that... you didnt even read it. I have spent some time on these forums. I knew that everyone here prefers apple products and is biased toward them, but they are not blind toward them. My cousin is an apple fanboy that I didn't even know was still around. He's the kind that believes that every feature Apple has is perfect while a feature an android or windows device has is flawed if he even acknowledges its existence. Everyone here can respect the offerings of other companies by, at the very least, acknowledging them.

I posted this on two different forums to also contrast. Posting this on a hardcore PC forum would have gotten relentless laughter and I would have patted myself on the back for being "right" and him being another foolish apple fanboy the way the rest of the world views apple fanboys. I posted here because I respect the proven ability of members here to be partial to information though they skew towards apple. It wasnt meant to troll, but rather exercise thought, bring up points that I may not know about, or humor that "not all apple fans are like that" from a pool of people that do not agree with me. Most people here did a great job after y'all got over the initial shock and started properly reading and responding.

This is just more of the same over-dramatic nonsense. Saying that about his wife is akin to wishing someone a speed ticket? No, if you wished for his beloved iPad to crap out on him, that'd be on par and it would at least be proportional and in context. You constantly over-dramatize in this thread and accuse everyone of the same. Deflection.

 

[spiderman0616]

Every time you reply, you demonstrate AGAIN how obnoxious everyone is telling you you're being by basically just retyping your original thoughts in different words and then claiming that nobody understands you. I'd be interested to see if you're invited back to your cousin's house for Easter next year. That's far more interesting to me than your opinions on gadgets.

 

[lowendlinux]

My cousin disqualified himself as an intelligent person


Posting this on a hardcore PC forum would have gotten relentless laughter

As you have...

If you would have posted this on a hardcore gaming forum which I happen to be a part of more than a few you would have been laughed at for you lack of technical knowledge

 

[taelan28]

As you have...

If you would have posted this on a hardcore gaming forum which I happen to be a part of more than a few you would have been laughed at for you lack of technical knowledge

1. What lack of knowledge? Other people here filled me in pretty well as to how a AX9 stacks up against an i5. You're just making statements.

2. Do it. Repost it, but I challenge you to copy and paste it and make it seem like its your words instead of "look at what this idiot troll thinks." Get back to me with the results. Post them here for all to see.
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Every time you reply, you demonstrate AGAIN how obnoxious everyone is telling you you're being by basically just retyping your original thoughts in different words and then claiming that nobody understands you. I'd be interested to see if you're invited back to your cousin's house for Easter next year. That's far more interesting to me than your opinions on gadgets.

I've politely responded to everyone who has stayed on point. I've said good things about this forum, why Im here and thoroughly explained it several times and thanked those for being engaging. What I have repeated doesn't change because it doesn't need to.

Your attacks have changed.

• First Im the reason you hate family gathering because Im the type that worships gadgets.
• My rebuttals are sour grapes.
  
• I have an inferiority complex.
• Im exhausting to other people at social functions.
• Im obnoxious.
• Not changing my points is foolish.

I made a conscious decision to not prove myself to you because you're the type of person who would move the goal posts. Sure enough it was the right decision and I learned a couple things from others who did what you didnt do.

 

[lowendlinux]

1. What lack of knowledge? Other people here filled me in pretty well as to how a AX9 stacks up against an i5. You're just making statements.

2. Do it. Repost it, but I challenge you to copy and paste it and make it seem like its your words instead of "look at what this idiot troll thinks." Get back to me with the results. Post them here for all to see.

I am also one of those that filled you in..

Why don't you actually join some gaming forums, and learn some stuff, then post your your rant on your own. You might just be surprised what gamers and overclockers know and use.

 

[upritbass]

My cousin disqualified himself as an intelligent person to me and I've stated why ad-nauseum.

Actually you've disqualified yourself 'ad-nauseum' especially since you can't spell ad-nauseam correctly.

I dont want you hanging around my kids too long (dont have any, just saying)

And we thank you for that.

 

[taelan28]

I am also one of those that filled you in..

Why don't you actually join some gaming forums, and learn some stuff, then post your your rant on your own. You might just be surprised what gamers and overclockers know and use.

And your earlier post was great. I didnt think about how a core M is priced quite expensive. It also made me realize that I was improperly using the word "cheap" because when I said it I meant its performance wasn't very good and comparable to 3-4 year old laptops. I actually had a discussion with my roommate a while back. He loves his apple stuff and he was in love with that sexy little macbook, but when he learned a bit about the Core M he got skiddish. He hated dropped frames and he wants the thing to run smooth with 20 tabs open in Safari.

I've been posting on console gaming forums more than half my life and I've seen how bad flame wars were in the early 2000's. How it is now is nothing compared to what it was. I've learned about ram, transistors, motherboards, CPUs, clocks speeds and how they're not apples to apples comparisons and how Sony used to trump up their stats with the PS2 and PS3. I know as much as I need to know as a CONSUMER. With the research I've done on the products I bought I've ended up happy every time and on the rare occasion I help make people I know make better decisions. My aforementioned roommate was set on a mac but he was disappointed with the Core M and didnt want compromises. I told him to go check out the Surface 4. He came back pleased and split. The reliability of OSX but low power of and lone port of a macbook, but the more complete and robust Surface Pro 4 with the shakiness of windows.? I dont know what he decided on, but at least he was given a different option just I was given another option when I switched to mac.

All you need to do is hit copy and paste on your forum of choice and watch the comments roll in to prove your point. Instead you side step it and tell me to do it.

 

[I7guy]

HA! You haven't dealt with the mousepad through the surface 2. You'd be singing the praises of the newer ones. Alas, the surface can at least do these things and the ipad pro cannot, and by doing them it doesnt compromise what it already does as well as the ipad pro. Adjustability doesn't compromise the angles, or sturdiness, and the mousepad doesn't compromise the keyboard, or any pointing functions relative to the iPad pro. Thus, the Surface is better designed.

Don't forget a fan is needed in the sp4. The iPad Pro is fabless. So while the i5 maybe faster a fan is needed to move the air inside the chassis.

 

[CE3]

I've politely responded to everyone who has stayed on point. I've said good things about this forum, why Im here and thoroughly explained it several times and thanked those for being engaging. What I have repeated doesn't change because it doesn't need to.

It's not that you're being rude to anyone here, it's just that you've made a big issue of a total non-issue in those most overly-dramatic way possible. Your cousin doesn't agree with you about the Surface being more powerful than the iPad Pro. He has a different opinion. Big deal. Yet it bothers you so much that you feel the need to create multiple threads on multiple message boards with comments like:

God forbid this man does jury duty, and I mean that.

I hope his wife realizes what a doofus he is and takes half his stuff.

The last time I heard something as ridiculous as this and someone meant it (politics excluded), was in 2009 after a Federal reserve round table at the U of M where an older woman said that using platinum as monetary backing would be better for the economy, and make us wealthier since it has more value than gold.

??? I wouldn't even be surprised if this whole story is BS. Either way, it's a total trollfest in here. And even if your story's true, at this point how can you deny how ridiculous you're being over something so trivial?

 

[lowendlinux]

And your earlier post was great. I didnt think about how a core M is priced quite expensive. It also made me realize that I was improperly using the word "cheap" because when I said it I meant its performance wasn't very good and comparable to 3-4 year old laptops. I actually had a discussion with my roommate a while back. He loves his apple stuff and he was in love with that sexy little macbook, but when he learned a bit about the Core M he got skiddish. He hated dropped frames and he wants the thing to run smooth with 20 tabs open in Safari.

I've been posting on console gaming forums more than half my life and I've seen how bad flame wars were in the early 2000's. How it is now is nothing compared to what it was. I've learned about ram, transistors, motherboards, CPUs, clocks speeds and how they're not apples to apples comparisons and how Sony used to trump up their stats with the PS2 and PS3. I know as much as I need to know as a consumer. With the research I've done on the products I bought I've ended up happy every time.

All you need to do is hit copy and paste and watch the comments roll in to prove your point. Instead you side step it.

Core M's performance is phenomenal give the watts is uses and I'll say your roomie also didn't think things through or isn't a Core M customer.

You've been posting in console gaming forums since the early 2000's ohh snap you're an oldster

The commercial internet existed as well as gaming consoles before that heck in '95 I used my dialup to redial ticket master to get some Smashing Pumpkins tickets when they were playing at Paul Brown stadium. I ran a BBS on my Apple IIc in 1987 when there was actually competition in the PC space and took a PowerBook 170 to college at Ohio State.

Does the above sound arrogant? That's exactly what you sounded like in you OP which is why the s**t storm of condemnation has rained down on you. You have an opinion whether founded in reality or not the same as your cousins husband. Neither of you are completely right yet both are at some level right. Stop talking tech at the dinner table and you, your cousin, and the husband will be happier for it.