Economics is what is keeping me out, pure and simple, the watch, phone, ipads are just stupid expensive, I would switch to Apple if they were reasonably priced, but they are not...
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Bye, Bye for now Apple, it has been fun!
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I just really miss the very convenient off-line dictation of Mojave.
But considering at the other side that really every software runs on every Windows version irrespective of how long i have been using it and the power of file operations with Explorer and PowerToys compared to Finder, the race is easily won.
I miss the Apple of the 2000's when Steve was at his peak, made the insane decision to switch to Intel, to bring us FireWire, Pro Apps, the Macbook, Macbook Pro, Itunes, ipods, iPhones...Ipads...
What has that deader than graveyard dead, cannot be bothered to live Tim done, nothing, brought the square root of a tomato to Apple.. Has done nothing exciting, Tim is too damn scared to make a decision...
Tim is so scared to make laptops upgradeable, scared to try ipads with Mac OS, so scared he is going rental for fcp for ipad..
I only use Safari to install FireFox, I cannot see any usefulness in Safari as a once off use case.. The same for all the bloatware that ships with the install, none of those apps are useful.. Google does the rest wonderfully well...
The locking out of Android, makes no sense, if it was security, I am sure one of the many PHD's from MIT etc would have that solved in about as long as it takes to boil water..
But what is of concern is the lack of attention to bugs, for example Final Cut Pro, has a bug that affects the language that FCP uses, in this case German, it renders FCP useless as the app thinks the hardware keyboard in in German, QWERTZ instead of QWERTY.. the problem is that command Z is not where you think it should be, a bug 10 yrs old..
Still no updates...Instead we are forced to use an alternative editing platform, rental.. Will Apple refund my rental costs? No...
Apple is big enough to afford to hire for 1 year enough folks to finish all bugs, bugs older than 180 days.. But will Apple do this? NO.. That is a problem... Not fixing bugs sends a message.. The wrong message..
What has that deader than graveyard dead, cannot be bothered to live Tim done, nothing, brought the square root of a tomato to Apple.. Has done nothing exciting, Tim is too damn scared to make a decision...
Tim is so scared to make laptops upgradeable, scared to try ipads with Mac OS, so scared he is going rental for fcp for ipad..
I only use Safari to install FireFox, I cannot see any usefulness in Safari as a once off use case.. The same for all the bloatware that ships with the install, none of those apps are useful.. Google does the rest wonderfully well...
The locking out of Android, makes no sense, if it was security, I am sure one of the many PHD's from MIT etc would have that solved in about as long as it takes to boil water..
But what is of concern is the lack of attention to bugs, for example Final Cut Pro, has a bug that affects the language that FCP uses, in this case German, it renders FCP useless as the app thinks the hardware keyboard in in German, QWERTZ instead of QWERTY.. the problem is that command Z is not where you think it should be, a bug 10 yrs old..
Still no updates...Instead we are forced to use an alternative editing platform, rental.. Will Apple refund my rental costs? No...
Apple is big enough to afford to hire for 1 year enough folks to finish all bugs, bugs older than 180 days.. But will Apple do this? NO.. That is a problem... Not fixing bugs sends a message.. The wrong message..
I was just about to ask the question, "Feel like going back to Windows or Linux?" I found this thread. I am OS agnostic, so I can move from one OS (and keyboard) to another without much problem. For nearly a year, I was only using macOS on a MBP. There was an argument going on in one the threads here whether an iPad can replace a desktop environment made me look back at a Windows 2 in 1 (tablet with a keyboard) and also with Linux. So, for few days, a certain hours with the MBP, and the evening with the 2 in 1. Windows had become quite nicer with all that snapping windows, virtual desktops etc etc. Linux, of course, was always better, even better than macOS in many areas.
I also visited stationary computer shops with racks and racks of all kinds of laptops from so many manufacturers. Of course, MacBooks are there, but in the range of "Windows" laptops, the MacBooks look like a poor brother at a party. I say "Windows" as they are all Linux worthy. The new MacBooks are not Windows compatible or Linux compatible. Oh, there's just one Linux distro for the M chip Macs. No one else bothers.
So, got myself a second hand once high-end Intel 10th gen 16GB laptop, to work with Windows and Linux again. I could get a 12th gen, but opted to save money. One doesn't need to pay too much to have fun.
Apple macOS is alright, but Apple obsoletes slightly older Macs by deliberately taking off certain parts of the base OS. Maybe the EU will catchup with that in the future. The supposed to be heavy Windows 11 can be installed in much older laptops with much weaker Intel chips such as Pentium N5000 and runs alright on 4GB. Lately, I've seen videos of Tiny11 and some others, who show how to "de-bloat" Win11. Wish someone can de-bloat macOS or make a Tiny-macOS. With Linux, there's no problem whatsoever -- hundreds of distros to choose from, all kinds of different file managers to choose from, and so on. One can even make one's own distro. Also, I still trust Intel over Arm. Neither MS or Linux or BSD developers are (still) keen on jumping on the Arm bandwagon. The world's largest manufacturers are also not that keen on producing Arm based computers. Maybe one product, here and there.
Anyway, the 15" Intel MBP (formerly high-end) will be used until it can be used with or without the newest macOS (240 cycles and battery health 92.3%). And, also Win11 and Linux on the 10thgen formerly high-end 14".
I also visited stationary computer shops with racks and racks of all kinds of laptops from so many manufacturers. Of course, MacBooks are there, but in the range of "Windows" laptops, the MacBooks look like a poor brother at a party. I say "Windows" as they are all Linux worthy. The new MacBooks are not Windows compatible or Linux compatible. Oh, there's just one Linux distro for the M chip Macs. No one else bothers.
So, got myself a second hand once high-end Intel 10th gen 16GB laptop, to work with Windows and Linux again. I could get a 12th gen, but opted to save money. One doesn't need to pay too much to have fun.
Apple macOS is alright, but Apple obsoletes slightly older Macs by deliberately taking off certain parts of the base OS. Maybe the EU will catchup with that in the future. The supposed to be heavy Windows 11 can be installed in much older laptops with much weaker Intel chips such as Pentium N5000 and runs alright on 4GB. Lately, I've seen videos of Tiny11 and some others, who show how to "de-bloat" Win11. Wish someone can de-bloat macOS or make a Tiny-macOS. With Linux, there's no problem whatsoever -- hundreds of distros to choose from, all kinds of different file managers to choose from, and so on. One can even make one's own distro. Also, I still trust Intel over Arm. Neither MS or Linux or BSD developers are (still) keen on jumping on the Arm bandwagon. The world's largest manufacturers are also not that keen on producing Arm based computers. Maybe one product, here and there.
Anyway, the 15" Intel MBP (formerly high-end) will be used until it can be used with or without the newest macOS (240 cycles and battery health 92.3%). And, also Win11 and Linux on the 10thgen formerly high-end 14".
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You just forget Raspberry Pi. Has ever been ARM with Linux.
There are plenty of Linux for ARM, which exists in millions forms in devices.
Just Apple's way of flabbergasting its ARM-Hardware has only one Linux version, aching to get past alpha status since absolutely nothing is documented.
No I didn't. I never wanted to use Raspberry Pi. Sure, Linux for ARM lives on billions of devices, some even called Android. But, that's not the case with normal laptop/desktop users. Nothing much around. Apple having just one chip manufacturer in not very secure area is not promising either. Intel and AMD had gone quite far in the meantime, much further than Apple, as they have a hundreds of companies around the world to test the chips in myriad of computers and give feedback. Apple might come back to Intel and AMD, after the experiment.
I am still perfectly happy with Windows 11 on my custom built desktop PC's. I find Windows much snappier and it gets out of my way compared to macOS. I still have a 2019 16" MBP that I have Windows on via bootcamp and sometimes I mess with macOS on it. That lasts for about 20 mins and then I am like ew, give me back the slick and snappy Windows UI (no thank you to those huge chunky title bars on macOS now. So much wasted space). File Explorer works better than Finder. I use Everything for instant search on my PC's. I use QuickLook to have a Preview like experience on Windows, and funny enough it previews files faster than Preview on macOS. I use Edge because it is fast and I can use uBlock Origin for real ad blocking. Windows remembers my window positions all the time on my external displays. I can play any games I want. I have run the couple of github scripts mentioned in this thread to customize my right click menu in Windows 11, remove a bunch of telemetry, and add back certain QoL features.
I still use an iPhone for my mobile device, and now that I can get emulators on it without sideloading it is one less reason to switch to Android. Thank you EU.
I still use an iPhone for my mobile device, and now that I can get emulators on it without sideloading it is one less reason to switch to Android. Thank you EU.
I put the MBP away for the day and was using only Windows 11 on a Dell 14". For now, I don't have that "want" to back to macOS, not yet. Working with Windows only, I feel that macOS is somewhat old fashioned, except for the eye-candy. Will be installing some Linux distros to check later. They have already gone to Wayland a log time ago, while macOS is still in X11, or an iteration of X11. Oh, the keypad on the Dell is superb!
Working with Windows only, I feel that macOS is somewhat old fashioned, except for the eye-candy. Will be installing some Linux distros to check later. They have already gone to Wayland a log time ago, while macOS is still in X11, or an iteration of X11. Oh, the keypad on the Dell is superb!
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I have commented on this before and agree with it. I'm not saying MacOS is slow; if you only use that, it's fine, but just switching between Windows and MacOS, the difference is very clear.
Intel or Arm MBP?
For intel, the only way is some sort of hack, because windows 11 requires the TPM chip found on the motherboard, Macs don't have that. I believe there are hacks but I'm unsure of the safety and validity. Owning an arm MBP, its not a thing for me to look into
For Arm based Macs - you can't. At least natively. Your only option is to run windows via Parallels, i.e., virtually. Even then it can only be an arm based version of windows
Edit: there's also the forum: Windows, Linux, macOS, & Others on the Mac This has people who are using windows on a Mac and you'll get some more directed help, information. This forum is running windows on hardware other then Apple's
Thanks, Intel. I didn't know that MBPs don't have the TPM chip.
I might just instal Win10 for sometime, just to remember how it looked like. Yes, there's a way to bypass TPM. I used that to install Win11in older laptops few years ago. I looked in YT and found a video how nicely the touchbar works with Win11. Like to check if that's true.
Agreed
I do the switch daily and macOS always feels like it's a "0.75x experience" in comparison when just doing things ... moving things around, opening windows, drilling into folders, etc, etc
Once I got used to Mac OS shortcuts I feel a lot more comfortable in it compared to Windows. CMD+Space is still like semi-spiritual experience when I need to find something I've sent to a customer 20 years ago. Anyway - on Windows I'm using Total Commander, probably the best and most useful piece of software ever written (you get a nice snail mail letter when registering), on MacOS there it Commander ONE Pro, not quite as versatile but still I'm using it over Finder when it comes to file management.
Not a big issue: there is only a very weak check during installation, then it works –yet– perfectly in native mode.
Rufus makes the modified installer very easily.
Not like OCLP, which must hijack the EFI and permanently masquerade another hardware to be able to run later versions of macOS
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Apple doesn't even have a bug tracker to keep track of bugs, cant fix what they don't know about. you can only report bugs but they don't even show you a list of what bugs they know about or are working on.
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I am in the "Windows is Frustatingly Unusable®" camp, though I'm running VMWare Fusion so that I can play some games I've missed since the 32 bit architecture left, as well as some that are not ported to Macs. I'm hoping the familiarity will help me be able to troubleshoot for my PC family members, too!
But all in all, I've been a dedicated full-time Mac user since my Performa days, and the thing I miss the most is customization of the interface. It is frustrating to not be able to consistently color and graphically code my workflow anymore.
But all in all, I've been a dedicated full-time Mac user since my Performa days, and the thing I miss the most is customization of the interface. It is frustrating to not be able to consistently color and graphically code my workflow anymore.
Oh truth, very very true, a bug still very much causing havoc since 2015, almost typed 1915, it feels that long.. Why not employ a couple of out of work, PHD's for a summer? Pay them for 90 days... Publish a list and ask for votes, using icloud ID+ mac address, more Apple devices, more votes?
If you Google it there is a simple way to use Rufus and create a bootable install from a USB drive with Windows 11 that does not require the TPM thing.Thanks, Intel. I didn't know that MBPs don't have the TPM chip.
I might just instal Win10 for sometime, just to remember how it looked like. Yes, there's a way to bypass TPM. I used that to install Win11in older laptops few years ago. I looked in YT and found a video how nicely the touchbar works with Win11. Like to check if that's true.
Exactly. I think anyone who switches between both frequently would agree. I don't understand these comments that still say macOS is the quickest and snappiest and Windows is slow and laggy. All I can think is those people have not used both side by side in literally, years.
Well, I use both daily, and I feel like neither is slow? Using an i7-13th gen intel, 4060 laptop and an m1 MBP 13" 16GB RAM? So I don't know what to tell you. Both seem extremely fast in just using them.
Found that not worth dual booting with Win10/11, as the MBP fans go mad with the additional AMD graphics. With Sonoma, they are silent. So better have Win11 in a "Windows" laptop to run Windows. And, Linux too. Even with all those Apple drivers added, the ears go splitting with the noise. It only tells that Apple has not put much effort into creating and/or maintaining the drivers. For Apple, it is all about profit!
Comparing Apple from 2000 to current era is inherently flawed. You cannot both applaud Steve for making great decisions (to save a dying company) and then comment on Tim for keeping these great products in the mix with few alterations (to continue a thriving company). Moreover, glossing over major flaws in older products only to point out minor bugs in today's products is cherry picking. And if Steve would have made a macOS iPad he could have from the start.
That being said, the spirit of Apple felt way more exciting back in the day and I understand the loss of that sentiment hurts. I don't really see the greener grass over at the competition though. If I'm quitting Apple, it's because I'm quitting computers and smartphones alltogether. Now THAT sounds tempting.