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We now have evidence of just how slow and non-agile Apple is. Vaccines can be developed, tested, and distributed faster than Apple can shove halfbaked software out to a platform they fully control.

What does Apple have to do with it? This has been available and working for any state or country that wants to use it since middle of the year.
 
The NHS app in the UK with notifications enabled chews up battery life. Hopefully your Californian app will be less power hungry
I have the NHS app, didn't really have that experience... I'm not back for a couple weeks, I'll watch it closer next time
 
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But it doesn't track you in any way. No location, nothing. Just randomized Bluetooth device ID that changes every 15 minutes and is stored only for 2 weeks. This information is not transmitted to the local government at all.

Only when you log a positive test case, which requires manual entry (and is verified against local government's verification server) their Bluetooth IDs are shared with those that came in contact (via key server).

If you are never tested positive or never logs a result (I sure hope not), you are not being tracked in anyway.

Ohhh, ok. Then that's totally fine. Because governments have definitely been altruistic during all of this and not used the pandemic to extend more and more authority over the most basic decisions people can make in life, much less decisions about employment. What could go wrong with now installing an app directly feeding them data about your movements.

The government is on my side, and you can trust them.
 
Didn't read every comment, but where I live (in Nevada) we've had this for months and 1) Nobody even knows about it and 2) nobody is using it.
I stopped using it after 2 months of having 0 traces and battery being drained at night.
 
What could go wrong with now installing an app directly feeding them data about your movements.
Perhaps because that isn't what's happening? (And if that is somehow the concern, if that was to happen, it would be something that could already be done long ago in various ways without any apps or anything like that, simply through people carrying phones and/or a combination of other things.)
 
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I want a notification when a hypocrite Democrat violates their own restrictions on me about outside and inside dining.
They are the biggest threat to society with their fascism. :mad:

By the way, I checked the menu at The French Laundry in Napa Valley. I think Bread & Better is only $35. Tim Cook probably eats there!
As the sayings go, two wrongs don't make a right, and cutting off the nose to spite the face.
 
Sad this thread is flagged for the political section of MR..
Agreed. Unfortunately, a lot of us live in the only country on earth where the supposed leader chose to politicize the national response to COVID, largely ignoring the epidemiologists and medical professionals because his own personal benefit and popularity is more important to him that the lives of the everyone else in the country.
 
Question for Californians / Americans - why did it take so long for California, home of the world's tech industry, to bring out a covid app? (and I thought the UK was late to the party when ours came out a few months back)>
It’s almost laughable, isn’t it. I too thought the England/Wales App in the UK came out much later than it should. And from the looks of it, the California app doesn’t do much.
 
The NHS app in the UK with notifications enabled chews up battery life. Hopefully your Californian app will be less power hungry
If the app, whilst installed on your phone is using more than 1% of your battery life, I’d strongly encourage you to give direct feedback to the team who run that app on their website, because that should not be happening. On my phone, it says “-“, over the past 10 days, meaning less than 1%, which should be the normal experience for users of the app.
 
Turn it off. Bull crap garbage. I’ll snap my IPhone in half before I give Any more info to these pieces of worthless garbage in our government here in CA. I’ll sign up right now to take my chances and those of my family.
You had us in the first half
 
Fresh off of banning abilities to conduct business all across the state, and after California has forced citizens into house arrest, now they want to also track your location and human interactions.
Hi, Californian here. Very much not under house arrest. Yesterday I took a walk outside with my family, got some curbside pickup items from Home Depot, went to the grocery store, and went for a run. All socially distanced of course. But thank you for your misplaced concern.
No, I think I'll just not download tracking software, and not contribute to the elevation of the "surveillance for safety" approach.
Uh this API doesn’t allow anyone to track you. Though if they wanted to (they don’t), they could easily do so as long as you’re carrying a smartphone, with or without exposure notifications.
 
If the app, whilst installed on your phone, is using more than 1% of your battery life, I’d strongly encourage you to give direct feedback to the team who run that app on their website, because that should not be happening, so you may have a bug that they can learn from and fix for both you and anyone else that might experience that. On my phone, it says “-“, for battery usage over the past 10 days, meaning less than 1%, which should be the normal experience for users of the app.
 
I have the NHS app, didn't really have that experience... I'm not back for a couple weeks, I'll watch it closer next time
Mine’s used “-“% over the past 10 days (meaning less than 1%). It could well be the instance on his phone may have a bug, which would be rare and may well be worth a reinstall.

Also the Exposure Notification API itself uses some battery, but it’s not much (around 2% of my daily battery use).
 
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Ohhh, ok. Then that's totally fine. Because governments have definitely been altruistic during all of this and not used the pandemic to extend more and more authority over the most basic decisions people can make in life, much less decisions about employment. What could go wrong with now installing an app directly feeding them data about your movements.

The government is on my side, and you can trust them.
There is no app to install. California is using Apple and Google's Exposure Notifications API, which does not transmit any information to the government. Like I said, it is only when a patient shares their positive test case that their randomized ID is sent to the government's servers to be verified and then shared with other phones that were nearby within last 14 days (the government's servers does not not know which phone is which).
 
Turn it off. Bull crap garbage. I’ll snap my IPhone in half before I give Any more info to these pieces of worthless garbage in our government here in CA. I’ll sign up right now to take my chances and those of my family.
I don’t care about you or your family’s lives, I care about the lives of anyone you might come into contact with - you’re taking chances with other people’s lives. I don’t want anyone else to die because you choose to believe in superstition instead of facts.

Please go ahead and snap your phone in half now, the exposure notification software is already in iOS, it merely waits for you to activate it. Who knows, maybe if you haven’t used enough tinfoil the lizard aliens will activate it without your knowing. Or you could get a ****ing clue and read the spec and understand that this software can’t track you.
 
I felt like crying at that woman who's video went viral where her outside dining was shut down, but a Hollywood production company set up outside catered dining right next to her outside dining for Hollywood stars just to point fingers at her and laugh. These people are hypocrite monsters! DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! This is exactly what communist countries do. :mad:

By the way, for perspective, I always wear a mask, and don't even go to restaurants much if ever, but I still got COVID from the Walmart that is still open! So these rules are half baked to say the least!
 
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I felt like crying at that woman who's video went viral where her outside dining was shut down, but a Hollywood production company set up outside catered dining right next to her outside dining for Hollywood stars just to point fingers at her and laugh. These people are hypocrite monsters! DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO! This is exactly what communist countries do. :mad:
What does that have to do with this?
 
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