I mean the real question is why does CA even have to do this. Why is the federal government sticking their head in the sand ignoring the issue while hundreds of thousands die. WA has a system now and CA has a system, but OR does not and people travel between these 3 states regularly. We can't solve contact tracing as if people never cross borders.
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California's Exposure Notification System Rolling Out on iPhone Thursday
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You couldn't be more wrong. Apple and Google's APIs have been available for absolutely ages now. It's up to individual health authorities to implement these APIs in their own apps. What you have evidence of, is how far the United States is behind the rest of the developed world in getting to grips with coronavirus. It's been available in iOS since May!
Why is Apple to blame? And not the state? And quite frankly I’d rather have an app that works at first release vs an “agile” one that needs dozens of iterations, for COVID that is
Got news for ya, not using a piece of software will not get someone killed. Stop spreading your misinformation.
No it doesn't. The app itself doesn't even do anything with your Bluetooth, it uses Apple or Google's built-in APIs to handle it. They use BLE. It's made absolutely no difference to my battery life or that of anybody I know.
Got news for ya, yes it can. If you get infected with coronavirus you form part of a chain of transmission which can lead to one or many deaths. If the app detects you have possibly been exposed, lives can therefore be saved if you follow the advice and self-isolate instead of shedding a deadly disease everywhere you go.
And this is exactly why it was flagged political. Looking to blame one person is completely irresponsible. The experts have said multiple things at multiple times and each time do you think they were lying to everyone in the country while telling the President the opposite? Since the end of February we've been wearing masks, anyone with a room temp IQ should've known that the CDC, WHO et al were lying. They only admitted in April that mask should be worn, and then in November 2020 that masks protect you, not just other people.
- We need to remember that the "health and medical professionals" told us for months that masks didn't help? Later we found out the they did it to conserve PPE for other people? (TheHill: “[Fauci] also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE. [Fauci] explained that public health experts “were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”)
- We need to remember that Congressional Democrats called him xenophobic and racist for instituting a travel ban? If anything, it should've been a complete travel ban at the end of January with mandatory 2 week quarantine coming from anywhere. It was too timid, but at that same time the "experts" were telling the President things like the next quotation:
- We need to remember that Fauci told us on January 26, 2020: to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. “What can you tell the American people about what’s been going on?” Catsimatidis asked. “Should they be scared?”
“I don’t think so,” Fauci said. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously.”
- We need to remember that on February 24, 2020 San Francisco Nancy Pelosi encouraged people to go out. " this fear is – I think – unwarranted in light of the precautions that are being taken here in the United States."
- We need to remember that in NYC on March 11, 2020, de Blasio said “If you’re not sick, you should be going about your life." Earlier NYC officials had also encouraged mingling.
- We need to remember that Fauci told us "DR. FAUCI: Right. Well, first of all, MARGARET, that one year timeline would be the world's indoor record of ever getting a vaccine out, at least to be able to early deploy. You can't do any better than that. If you go any faster, you'll be cutting dangerous corners."
-It wasn't until November 2020 that the CDC finally acknowledged masks protect you, not just others.
So come on, there is plenty of blame to go around.
How come these so-called experts at hospitals didn't have enough PPE? We had a full box from the around 2017 when something similar happened, and the experts were just too stupid to do so?
The answer is that no one knew for sure and that (I suspect) many of the people did the best they could. Some were probably partisan and fed bogus information to the government without regard to the cost in lives, but which ones? The ones who lied about masks for 4 months?
Perfect time for this notification system, with Covid rates rising and number of ICU beds decreasing in California.
Democrat run California pushes application on iPhones to gather data on the population.
Democrat Tom Cook would be very happy about this.
People in general are too piss weak to call out Tim Cook when he abuses his position as CEO to lobby democrats and push democrat policy.
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Democrat Tom Cook would be very happy about this.
I agree 100%. We don't need Apple pushing any more democrat policy and lobbying democrat politicians than they already do. The fact Apple to this in the first place is one of the worst thing Apple have ever done.
People in general are too piss weak to call out Tim Cook when he abuses his position as CEO to lobby democrats and push democrat policy.
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They've been doing contact tracing since the beginning of this thing and the virus has still spread. Guess what, it's a virus, you aren't going to stop it by finding out that a couple people you may have bumped into a week ago had it.
Thank good a vaccine is around the corner and all the people who have been living in fear and covering in their homes for the past 10 months might finally give it a rest and actually walk outside and start living their lives again.
Thank good a vaccine is around the corner and all the people who have been living in fear and covering in their homes for the past 10 months might finally give it a rest and actually walk outside and start living their lives again.
I can't believe you think fighting a pandemic is a partisan issue. Your country has gone crazy.
The bold all-caps outrage is better directed toward hypocritical state and local leaders flaunting their own mandates at certain French restaurants. The damage to public trust and its affect on mitigation far outweighs anything a guy on a MacRumors forum types.
I don't need to think anything. The facts are out there.
In an ideal world it would not be a partisan issue but certain politicians in many countries have made it a partisan issue. By doing stuff similar to what has been talked about in this topic. Or craming in totally unrelated leglisation into corona virus bills "corona virus and other legislation" bill. That other legislation has been about everything (over here) from changing local government law, to giving themselves a pay rise and so on and so on.
This should not be partisan but it's been made that way by their actions unfortunately. All over the world, not just in california.
You're targeting the wrong culprit. Canada rolled out their Covid Alert app based on the Apple/Google protocol months ago, but only a few provinces offered support.
The notification system needs to work in concert with each region's health systems, which can vary from region to region. It sounds like California's health system took several months to become compatible. That was not Apple's fault in any way.
If anything, Apple was *ahead* of the game. And they did all of the engineering work for free for the world. Be thankful and appreciative, eh?
It's about damn time. Why doesn't the whole country have this?! oh right because our federal gov are a bunch of deniers....
Nice... Not getting how it works, you still couldn't wait to blame and give Apple a good bash.
You're clearly not up to speed on WHY Apple and Google took on this project.... it was to provide a universal solution that PROTECTS your privacy.
We saw all around the world where individual companies, cities and countries tried to take on this same project, but were shut down because of privacy violations.
The Apple/Google solution is anonymous. You are a faceless, nameless entity in the eyes of their systems.
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Governor Newsom owned up to that and apologized, and explained how his actions in that situation were a terrible choice on his part, and would do differently in the future.
Now please provide a list of Republican governors who have owned up to, and apologized for, all the damage they have done by denying that COVID is a problem. I mean, what’s a few thousand extra dead people here and there. Governor Newsom has made mistakes, but he’s trying to protect the lives of the people in his state, rather than worrying more about offending their sensibilities and superstitions.
Your religion isn’t doing you any favors.
While there is that aspect to that part of it, why would the public be basing things simply on what politicians are saying and whether or not they themselves might be doing or not doing something? It seems like that might be the main underlying issue.
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How does some supposed US democratic agenda fit in with the rest of the world that does this as well? How is data being gathered when the whole point what has been done was specifically to make it work without that?
