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Free, scriptable, and as our IT service company installs it for their customers, I suppose it is safe
Free, scriptable, and as our IT service company installs it for their customers, I suppose it is safe
Hello all,
I’m looking for a VPN to install to my new MBP. I feel like every other YouTube video has an influencer recommend another VPN service and I don’t know which to trust.
Obviously one that is fast and reliable are preferred. Free would be spectacular.
In my opinion, $100 a year for a VPN is rather expensive, compared to the other reputable services you mentioned.I've used several of them. I used PIA for a couple of years, Torguard, Nord VPN
The best one and they one I've stuck with for a long time is ExpressVPN especially for what you want to do with it.
What makes Express worth the extra money?
Fair assessment thus far.I'm looking for a VPN myself, and I've been trying both ExpressVPN and NordVPN.
Thanks to the incentives, nordVPN is 100 dollars for 2 years, where is ExpressVPN is 100 dollars for 15 months. Both have a money back guarantee and I'm still researching but here's my take
1. Speed - both are nearly identical for domestic servers in the US. I'll give a slight edge to Nord as they seem to have about 50mbps faster but as I keep testing it seems to normalize to a full on tie.
2. Software. I think ExpressVPN provides a better experience in the application and web site. This may boil down to personal preference plus their software seems less bloated - Nord's takes longer to start up - at least on windows.
3. Servers/countries. ExpressVPN offers more countries but less servers overall. I guess depending on your needs, its a toss up. Internationally it appears that Nord is faster but I've not really put it through its paces
4. Streaming - ExpressVPN seems to offer more hand holding and/or guidance to unlock streaming services so you can watch items outside of your local area - my kids want this, I personally don't care
5. Support, I've not used this, but based on reviews, ExpressVPN offers a slightly better experience.
6. Security - Nord offers a bit more onion over vpn,
7. Reputation - ExpressVPN seems to have a better more transparent stance. They publish their security audits and have seem to be upfront with their systems. Back when NordVPN was hacked they basically tried to sweep that under the rug and state that it wasn't a big deal, even though their encryption keys were stolen. They also were not up front with the hacking - it was only when a tech crunch article uncovered the issue. This kind of rubs me the wrong way, for a company that is supposed to be privacy minded.
For people reading my post, it would seem i'm favoring ExpressVPN and you're right, I seemed to be biased towards them. I'm not sure why, but i seem to prefer them given what I posted above. I'm not sure if the price which is effectively 2x of Nord is worth that though.
My computer habits are incredibly tame, I don't torrent, i'm not doing much other then playing some games, youtube and minor browsing to tech sites, like MacRumors.
Here's a set of reviews from security,org - I have no idea if they're a good/bad sight, I just pulled them up thanks to the all knowing and all seeing google.
ExpressVPN Review 2024: Powerful Encryption & Security
When it comes to a VPN, you don't want to take a risk with a company you don't know that much about. That's why I'm excited to review ExpressVPN. They're one ofwww.security.orgNordVPN Review 2024: A Top VPN Tested by Experts
A VPN is one of the most important tools you can have in your cybersecurity toolbox. VPNs keep your identity hidden and your browser history secure. In thiswww.security.org
Here's jayztwocent's dialog regarding the hacking - its less about that they got hacked and more about how they handled themselves
I can't disagree, though I'm willing to pay more for what I would say is perceived benefit for my money. I'm about 90% sure i'll be cancelling Nord and maybe I'll take a look at Pia and Surfshark. I've been playing with Express for about a week and so far I do like itAs such, I couldn’t justify the cost for Express, especially when there is Nord, PIA or SurfShark (which is what i use now).
For me, those actions instantly make NordVPN a non-starter. When clients pay a company for security and privacy services, hiding and then PR-spinning a serious and foundational breach is outrageous. Business users, especially small businesses that do not have a lot of in-house network expertise or time to devote to running their computers, could face regulatory, technology, and reputation problems for years to come.when NordVPN was hacked they basically tried to sweep that under the rug and state that it wasn't a big deal, even though their encryption keys were stolen. They also were not up front with the hacking - it was only when a tech crunch article uncovered the issue
I would just go with Mullvad. I'm not sure Mozilla VPN offers anything additional. It's basically just a rebranded Mullvad.For me, those actions instantly make NordVPN a non-starter. When clients pay a company for security and privacy services, hiding and then PR-spinning a serious and foundational breach is outrageous. Business users, especially small businesses that do not have a lot of in-house network expertise or time to devote to running their computers, could face regulatory, technology, and reputation problems for years to come.
I've been waiting for Mozilla VPN to be reviewed and tested by multiple sources to help me decide between Mozilla VPN (powered by Mullvad) and Mullvad's direct offering.
Try a different city. I never use a local connection. I have had excellent results with the Seattle server. I usually get well over 300 down / 200 - 225 up with Seattle.So I'm trying SurfShark
My initial thoughts are colored with being underwhelmed. The good news is there's a Boston server, the bad news is that at times performance is pitiful. Re-running the test via the app and web shows a wide swing on performance. While i do expect to see some degradation, and time of day can and will affect this, I'm shocked to see things go so slow for a while and then perk back up.
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Oh no question, but the thing is, if you're going to get the best performance, its going to be on a server closest to your location.I never use a local connection.
I agree about server location. Most of the time when I tried the local area server, which seemed to connect very quickly, I noticed it was rather slow compared to Seattle. I don't know why that is.Oh no question, but the thing is, if you're going to get the best performance, its going to be on a server closest to your location.
I've just cancelled my "trial' of NordVPN, it seems the only way to cancel these is to go through the chat process. It was a bit of a pain because the first level was a bot, and then when I finally got a human, he was pushing to keep me on for the full 30 days. My issue is that I'm easily distracted and if I let it go for the full 30, then there's a chance I'd miss the deadline. I get why they're doing it, but I hate having to "convince" the support folks that I want my money back.
As for SurfShark, one other concern was niggling at me, they're discounting the cost so much - which seems like a loss leader to build up their customer base, its possible to see higher prices when renewal time comes around. I'm not saying that will happen but its something to keep in mind
That's why I really didn't seriously consdier them. I tried them, but it was merely a curiously look. As I said I think I'm getting value for my money at ExpressVPN so I'll just keep what I have ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I quit using Nord because of their lack of transparency and honesty when they were hacked
Yep I use Mullvad........it is very fast!!!Mullvad. They're one of the few that offer Wireguard.
ProtonVPN is free and safeIf it's free it's slow or they leach data from you. I like PIA myself. It's fairly cheap. You can peruse the net for sales codes. They'll probably have an Easter sale.
I agree and to an extent, find one that you trust (I use that word loosely) in that you're stuff isn't being logged, there's no data retention and they're transparent with their business - for me, ExpressVPN checks off most of those itemsDo not use a free VPN service.