Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
14,725
13,245
UK
95% really.. wow.. cool aid much.. you are obviously still running a commodore 64 Then
.
I'm not in education and my job doesn't require me to do any work at home. All I really need to do is go on the Internet, catch up on news, do my banking. Do shopping on line. Watch videos. Play games etc. So my iPhone/iPhone does all of that. I only have my Mac for the odd time that I need to do some typing or maybe rip DVD. I mainly use it store my media library.
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
5,517
5,692
You could argue that it does have access to a filling system via iCloud Drive.

I used android for 2.5 years. High end android phones are very nice and have a lot more functions than the iPhone. However where they fail for me is in reliability, fluidity, software support, after care sales, battery life, integration with other devices, the ecosystem etc.

I read a lot of iPhone users saying this. I have no idea what that even means ?

I've been on Android for like 6 years, having owned like 14 Android phones, and just 2 iPhone's. My Android phone " Just works" It never randomly reboots itself, they are buttery smooth, rock solid stable, battery life on the Note series I've owned and large phones like the OnePlus One and Nexus 6 have been amazing.

As far integration goes with other systems, don't know what that means ? My phone is my phone / pocket computer, my custom built gaming PC is my home computer, I don't own or want a Tablet. Plus I don't need a phone to talk to my computer, zero reason I'd need that.

My point is, my Android experience has been smooth and pretty much trouble free, never once needed to go in for service or use a warranty. And I root my Android phones immediately, and install custom ROM's on every one of my phones, and even doing all of that, still been a pleasurable experience, and no issue.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
17,317
25,467
Wales, United Kingdom
I read a lot of iPhone users saying this. I have no idea what that even means ?

I've been on Android for like 6 years, having owned like 14 Android phones, and just 2 iPhone's. My Android phone " Just works" It never randomly reboots itself, they are buttery smooth, rock solid stable, battery life on the Note series I've owned and large phones like the OnePlus One and Nexus 6 have been amazing.

As far integration goes with other systems, don't know what that means ? My phone is my phone / pocket computer, my custom built gaming PC is my home computer, I don't own or want a Tablet. Plus I don't need a phone to talk to my computer, zero reason I'd need that.

My point is, my Android experience has been smooth and pretty much trouble free, never once needed to go in for service or use a warranty. And I root my Android phones immediately, and install custom ROM's on every one of my phones, and even doing all of that, still been a pleasurable experience, and no issue.
Your last paragraph is what separates you from a lot of people. You root your device straight away and install a custom ROM. I don't know anybody who does that apart from my fellow geeky chums online. I am sure you have an amazing experience once you have set up your device with years of knowledge to back it up. I think for the average Joe who just buys a phone and sets it up the default way will find the iPhone a little easier. I set up a Galaxy S6 on Boxing Day for my aunt and it wasn't as easy as an iPhone IMO. It's different and suits many people and to be honest these phones all do the same thing at the end of the day. The operating systems just offer differing experiences.

The more technical demands are available on android, but a lot of people don't need that and find the iPhone simple. I am one of the latter despite having a very technically demanding profession and the need to use my phone throughout the day. Some people just enjoy the easy life. I was on Android between 2008 and 2012 and appreciate it has moved on leaps and bounds. My recent experiences though have convinced me iOS is still for me. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: nj1266 and I7guy

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
I know this is a general blanket statement but I feel like the more tech savvy the person is, the better their android experience will be. Mostly due to androids ability to run stuff in the background full fledged - leading cause of jank! :p

not saying all tech savvy people should go android or anything like that..

I dont want any family members that I do tech support for to buy android phones, in other words
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
5,517
5,692
Your last paragraph is what separates you from a lot of people. You root your device straight away and install a custom ROM. I don't know anybody who does that apart from my fellow geeky chums online. I am sure you have an amazing experience once you have set up your device with years of knowledge to back it up. I think for the average Joe who just buys a phone and sets it up the default way will find the iPhone a little easier. I set up a Galaxy S6 on Boxing Day for my aunt and it wasn't as easy as an iPhone IMO. It's different and suits many people and to be honest these phones all do the same thing at the end of the day. The operating systems just offer differing experiences.

The more technical demands are available on android, but a lot of people don't need that and find the iPhone simple. I am one of the latter despite having a very technically demanding profession and the need to use my phone throughout the day. Some people just enjoy the easy life. I was on Android between 2008 and 2012 and appreciate it has moved on leaps and bounds. My recent experiences though have convinced me iOS is still for me. :)


Good points, but I root and install custom ROM's on my Android phones, to get a smoother / faster experience, as well as much increased and better battery life due to the custom Kernels, and all the extra functions the custom ROM's add beyond the stock phone itself, as well as debloating the million apps I don't want or need.

Saying all of that, I do that within the first week of owning a brand new phone, and then I tweak it and setup to the way I like, and then never touch the custom settings again, and I will keep my phone that same way for many months afterwards, once it's all setup, I just use the phone regularly from there.

Same with the iPhone. My first new iPhone in five years was the 6 Plus I bought last winter, I Jailbreaked it the second day I owned it, learned all about the JB community, and tweaked the hell out of that 6 Plus, and then I liked the phone a lot better. But that didn't last 30 days before I returned it for a Nexus 6 :)
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
7,467
5,097
I know this is a general blanket statement but I feel like the more tech savvy the person is, the better their android experience will be. Mostly due to androids ability to run stuff in the background full fledged - leading cause of jank! :p

not saying all tech savvy people should go android or anything like that..

I dont want any family members that I do tech support for to buy android phones, in other words

Perfectly stated, IMO. Considering the little things that cause my friends and family members with iPhones to have problems, I always tend to steer them away from Android if they approach me about it. Android's strength is the customization it affords but I also think it's a bit of a necessity (customization, that is) to really get an optimal experience. Just speaking from my own personal experience.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gotluck

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
Good points, but I root and install custom ROM's on my Android phones, to get a smoother / faster experience, as well as much increased and better battery life due to the custom Kernels, and all the extra functions the custom ROM's add beyond the stock phone itself, as well as debloating the million apps I don't want or need.

Saying all of that, I do that within the first week of owning a brand new phone, and then I tweak it and setup to the way I like, and then never touch the custom settings again, and I will keep my phone that same way for many months afterwards, once it's all setup, I just use the phone regularly from there.

Same with the iPhone. My first new iPhone in five years was the 6 Plus I bought last winter, I Jailbreaked it the second day I owned it, learned all about the JB community, and tweaked the hell out of that 6 Plus, and then I liked the phone a lot better. But that didn't last 30 days before I returned it for a Nexus 6 :)


I like your point about getting the phone the way you want it and then letting it be. I feel like rooters / rommers / jailbreakers get a bad rap for 'always messing with their phones'. Personally I get it the way I want it and let it be too. And surely I am glued to my phone less than these people I see out and about constantly glued to their phones (and I'm judging, but I'm sure they are bone stock iOS) I guess their argument is that they are 'using it' and not 'customizing it' like us dweebs :p
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tig Bitties

Fernandez21

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2010
4,840
3,183
I think the reason people say "it just works" is because it's easier to screw up your phone on android than iOS. Whether it's a crappy app or not reading a pop up, or changing the wrong setting. I was had someone install a launcher and then after not liking it I had to talk them through on how to go into settings to change it back. These extra features very useful for those of us that know what we're doing, but for other they cause problems.
 

Ulenspiegel

macrumors 68040
Nov 8, 2014
3,212
2,491
Land of Flanders and Elsewhere
I used Android for almost two years. Enjoyed the freedom, the possibility to upload and download whatever I wanted, the simple, transparent file system etc. Nevertheless, I never felt close to that system. Google's data mining bothered me a lot and the last drop was when I was unable to send multiple SMS with the stock app or open .jpg files in mail. It goes w/o saying that there was a workaround for both of these problems (3rd party apps), but it was more than strange for me.
 

yaboyac29

macrumors 6502a
Sep 24, 2014
651
468
10 mighty annoying Apple iPhone 6s / iOS 9 features that need fixing ASAP

Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-m...-need-fixing-ASAP_id74629#oVCVHKcFbByb7jhJ.99


Number 7 blows my mind.

Again, the way iOS' organizes settings needs so much retooling. I always hated the convoluted main Settings menu, and hated that some apps have their settings within the app, and others have it within the main Settings menu. You'd have to hunt it down. I hear it's getting better, but the inability to change video settings in the actual camera app blows my mind. #10, too, to some extent.

Life is simply easier on an Android...


and if apple made these changes then you would probably be the first one to go "welp, another thing they copied from android"

in the end, apple loses in the eyes of android users.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,158
25,268
Gotta be in it to win it
and if apple made these changes then you would probably be the first one to go "welp, another thing they copied from android"

in the end, apple loses in the eyes of android users.
My old blackberry had a file system, card slot, and wifi manager. While it would be nice if Apple updated the feature set of iOS, I can't say I really miss anything except the ability to load music directly on the device.
 

Truefan31

macrumors 68040
Aug 25, 2012
3,589
835
I think that another thing Apple benefits from is a stock way of backing up basically a system image of your device. Exactly how you had it before. Natively and seamless (although iTunes has its drawbacks backups can be done from the cloud too). I know there's options for android but imo they're not quite as seamless.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
17,317
25,467
Wales, United Kingdom
I think that another thing Apple benefits from is a stock way of backing up basically a system image of your device. Exactly how you had it before. Natively and seamless (although iTunes has its drawbacks backups can be done from the cloud too). I know there's options for android but imo they're not quite as seamless.
That is very true. The option to just click 'restore from backup' and to have everything as it was before without fiddling is a feature I like the most. There are workarounds on other phones but I am yet to see demonstrated something that compares to iOS in this regard.
 

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
yes I do believe itunes can no longer backup your actual apps using 'transfer purchases' due to 'app thinning' or something like that. Believe ifunbox or itools can still do it but not sure if it requires a jailbreak

the only one true system image on mobile devices is a nandroid backup! (custom recovery required)

iOS only backs up user data, no system (no downgrading ios) - mostly semantics I know, but you cant have a system image without the system :p It restores the latest OS from apple, then restores your userfiles in the local or icloud backup

if we were able to create system images on iOS (and be allowed to restore them) that would offer complete freedom, a dream come true!
 
Last edited:

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
yes I do believe itunes can no longer backup your actual apps using 'transfer purchases' due to 'app thinning' or something like that. Believe ifunbox or itools can still do it but not sure if it requires a jailbreak

the only one true system image on mobile devices is a nandroid backup! (custom recovery required)

iOS only backs up user data, no system (no downgrading ios) - mostly semantics I know, but you cant have a system image without the system It restores the latest OS from apple, then restores your userfiles in the local or icloud backup

if we were able to create system images on iOS (and be allowed to restore them) that would offer complete freedom, a dream come true!
There is a workaround if you download the apps to your computer and update them i side there. That will download the complete app file that will work on multiple devices.

If you recover it will also load them back into your device if you do it this way, and whilst could be seen as a bit of a pain, there is a benefit if you have multiple iOS devices to do it this way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gotluck
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.